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dalhousie2008
Friday 30th December 2011, 11:23
On ebay there is chinese new 19t turbos, to suit saabs (rip) does anybody know if they will fit on volvo's and has anybody brought any chinese turbos, do you work or are they dog poo?

also i have a mint 40k 16t 3" angled in the garage, can i put an 18 or 19t in the casing?

theflyingbrick
Friday 30th December 2011, 11:35
theres volvo 19t's aswell i was looking at them last night!! i dont know if there any good cant see why not??!!?? im sure someone who knows will be along to put us right ;)

dalhousie2008
Friday 30th December 2011, 11:37
what item are you looking at? brick

theflyingbrick
Friday 30th December 2011, 11:42
twas this one ;)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370572448399?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

bigrotch
Friday 30th December 2011, 11:48
twas this one ;)


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/370572448399?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

you will want bigger than that my pedigree chum once the kkk k24 is installed in car you will be a little speck in my rear veiw mirror pmsl

theflyingbrick
Friday 30th December 2011, 11:52
you will want bigger than that my pedigree chum once the kkk k24 is installed in car you will be a little speck in my rear veiw mirror pmsl

19t is plenty mate,you go ahead and fit your racist turbo lol only way youll be that far ahead is if the tow truck is jet powered lmao

dalhousie2008
Friday 30th December 2011, 11:54
didn't see this one brick

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TD04HL-19T-Upgrade-SAAB-9-3-9-5-2-3L-T-Aero-B235R-B205R-B235L-turbo-Turbocharger-/250962314949?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6e8506c5#ht_1273wt_1029

a fair bit cheaper

dalhousie2008
Friday 30th December 2011, 11:55
same number so should fit. Any how ill be after more power once i install rods in the 54k engine in the garage. But which ever car blows first get it lol

Im thinking gt series turbo

theflyingbrick
Friday 30th December 2011, 12:00
that cant be the complete turbo and housing surely?? i did see it but just thought it was the cartridge but on second view it does look like a complete unit wow thats canary cheap aswell hmmmmm

Volvostorm
Friday 30th December 2011, 12:08
same number so should fit. Any how ill be after more power once i install rods in the 54k engine in the garage. But which ever car blows first get it lol

Im thinking gt series turbo

Which is what I have, the GT3071R fits without any bulkhead mods too.

p fandango
Friday 30th December 2011, 12:09
didn't see this one brick

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TD04HL-19T-Upgrade-SAAB-9-3-9-5-2-3L-T-Aero-B235R-B205R-B235L-turbo-Turbocharger-/250962314949?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a6e8506c5#ht_1273wt_1029

a fair bit cheaper
the outlet from that turbo is pointing in the wrong direction for a Volvo, not sure if they can be rotated or not

also the exhaust inlet on the Fleabay 19t looks tiny compared to a genuine 19t
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy196/pedro-fandango/Volvo/mine/BT/Turbo%20Manifold%20Exhaust/engine13.jpg

p fandango
Friday 30th December 2011, 12:13
Which is what I have, the GT3071R fits without any bulkhead mods too.
i've been looking at them, what size A/R have you got?

Volvostorm
Friday 30th December 2011, 12:30
i've been looking at them, what size A/R have you got?

I can't remember! lol

I think mines the .86 A/R, I'll have to see if I can see anything stamped on it.

Here's a picture anyway!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/paulxr4x4/Volvo%20build%20and%20evos/1f58f4b5.jpg

mitchyboy01
Friday 30th December 2011, 13:02
Hi mate, The saabs use a T25 flange so the turbos are not compatible with our cars. I would prefer a 200k mile genuine 19t over a new China turbo though. So many horror stories of china turbos exploding after a few hundred miles.

Alan M
Friday 30th December 2011, 13:08
The chinese turbos are being sold by companies on ebay for more than they cost to them as a lot of them being sold outside of China are just resellers of the chinese turbos. They work very well if you change the bearings with refurbishment kits for genuine mitsubishi items when purchased. They are just copies of genuine items and the material quality seems to be very good. I have seen two of these turbos now and they look very good and I did a spark test on the housings and the steel quality matched the genuine MHI items I had to hand, I never carried out spark tests on the wheels though as that would have damaged them.

Its the same with all non genuine parts though, you get what you pay for as it pot luck wether it lasts or doesn't.

Volvostorm
Friday 30th December 2011, 13:09
Hi mate, The saabs use a T25 flange so the turbos are not compatible with our cars.

They can be made to fit, my Garrett is a T25 flange, all I did was have to sealing ring machined off the manifold, and used a T25 spacer flange. The manifold was redrilled with pockets to allow for the bolts.

p fandango
Friday 30th December 2011, 13:28
They can be made to fit, my Garrett is a T25 flange, all I did was have to sealing ring machined off the manifold, and used a T25 spacer flange. The manifold was redrilled with pockets to allow for the bolts.
looking on the ATP site LINK (http://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=GRT-TBO-020&Category_Code=GRT) they don't list a T25 with an internal wastegate, you running external? I was thinking the T3 internally wastegated 5 bolt housing would be best for us

Volvostorm
Friday 30th December 2011, 13:38
Mine came from Owen developments, I could never get a reply from ATP either phone or email :(

I got their ex-display turbo, has cut-back blades, and some slight porting and a metal roller bearing, plus it was rebult once I ordered it :)

This is it (I think)

http://www.owendevelopments.co.uk/products/product-detail.asp?prodId=19&catId=19&subId=-1

mitchyboy01
Friday 30th December 2011, 14:27
They can be made to fit, my Garrett is a T25 flange, all I did was have to sealing ring machined off the manifold, and used a T25 spacer flange. The manifold was redrilled with pockets to allow for the bolts.

I have just done the same thing for my T25 flange Holset, apart from I used a t3-t25 adaptor. The T4 has plenty of space, but I doubt you would fit an adaptor in on the T5 so what you've done sounds like the best way.

dalhousie2008
Friday 30th December 2011, 15:08
i have sparked some interesting chat. As you know i have a few t5r etc, im after a lightly modded reliable for everyday and a more faster for occasional use but still reliable.

As i have this very good low mileage engine it will get rods, obviously it will be a later finished project.

But just collecting part as the mo

smithy
Friday 30th December 2011, 18:51
I can't remember! lol

I think mines the .86 A/R, I'll have to see if I can see anything stamped on it.

Here's a picture anyway!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/paulxr4x4/Volvo%20build%20and%20evos/1f58f4b5.jpg

i thought that the gt series of turbos use recirt to help with boost and spooling like mine has.recirt are the cutout in the compressor housing.

Volvostorm
Friday 30th December 2011, 19:01
Not sure, I know it doesn't have anything that looks like a re-circ on it!

I'll ring Owen's during the week and find out.

dalhousie2008
Friday 30th December 2011, 19:06
What sort of bhp does the engine produce? And boost figures

Volvostorm
Friday 30th December 2011, 19:22
What sort of bhp does the engine produce? And boost figures

Mine? Dunno yet, its not running!

Somewhere around 350-400bhp, best guess, and no more than 2bar

Jamest5r
Friday 30th December 2011, 19:29
My T35 beside an 18t :)

Still running my engine in but it feels like a beast.

http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy185/jamesclancy/build1016.jpg

Niles
Friday 30th December 2011, 19:33
On ebay there is chinese new 19t turbos, to suit saabs (rip) does anybody know if they will fit on volvo's and has anybody brought any chinese turbos, do you work or are they dog poo?

also i have a mint 40k 16t 3" angled in the garage, can i put an 18 or 19t in the casing?

take the actuator off. undo the centre v band clamp. Gently donk the exhaust side off the turbo. remove the BIG circlip holding the CHRA onto the 16t's housing. buy this.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/C1-Mitsubishi-Upgrade-TD04-19T-Compressor-Housing-Wheel-/330604443864?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cf98f78d8

remove the compressor wheel from the 16t's guts. (opposite thread) Put the 19T's wheel on. (should come pre balanced). put wheel/chra into the 19T compressor housing. Ping big circlip back in. (bit tricky sometimes). Put exhaust side back on. do V band clamp. Put actuator back on.

Bingo. 19T for 97 squids.

Niles
Friday 30th December 2011, 19:36
forget the lst housing/wheel. wont fit.

Niles
Friday 30th December 2011, 19:41
thats better.....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Turbo-Compressor-Housing-Wheel-VOLVO-S70-850-TD04-19T-/290651772642?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43ac3216e2

nottsgreent5
Friday 30th December 2011, 20:01
would you need to fit a 19t actuator or would the 16t be ok ?

Niles
Friday 30th December 2011, 20:57
16t should be ok.

nottsgreent5
Friday 30th December 2011, 21:08
thats me next mod planed then lol

smithy
Friday 30th December 2011, 21:11
My T35 beside an 18t :)

Still running my engine in but it feels like a beast.

http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy185/jamesclancy/build1016.jpg

that turbo looks big compared to the 18t where and who designed that thing it must of cost you a pretty penny mate and im glad your car is running in well.i wonder what the car will be like when the turbo is turned up to its full potential ,ive been told that the t35s like to be run at 1.8 bar constant that should light up the front wheels nicely.you will need new tyres in a week lol

Jamest5r
Friday 30th December 2011, 23:14
They are your hand's in the pic numpty :)

t5_monkey
Friday 30th December 2011, 23:21
That T35 looks like a ££££in....

http://giveuaworld.com/wp-content/uploads/dustbin-picture-i5.jpg

T5frankie
Friday 30th December 2011, 23:22
They are your hand's in the pic numpty :)

http://rlv.zcache.com/pmsl_button-p145496933674945905z745k_400.jpg

T5frankie
Friday 30th December 2011, 23:23
http://forum.performancebmwmag.com/images/smiles/mutley-pmsl.gif

smithy
Friday 30th December 2011, 23:45
They are your hand's in the pic numpty :)

i wondered why they were so battered and fat lol