Rwd 850

[T4Rick]

Was there a reason why volvo didnt make a rwd 850?

[JUDGENINJA]

Volvo = safety.... Therefore Dropped the RWD, I think there are a couple of other reasons but safety was the one it was marketed on.

[T4Rick]

Volvo = safety.... Therefore Dropped the RWD, I think there are a couple of other reasons but safety was the one it was marketed on.

Power to weight ratio? lol to much power at rear end?

[Flatout Phil]

This is from Wiki - the indubitable source of all truth...

The 850 saloon features an interior space of 2.80 cubic metres (99 cu ft). This is slightly more than the 2.78 cubic metres (98 cu ft) of the 2004 Mercedes-Benz E-Class, even though the car is reasonably compact on the outside. This space is achieved by mounting the in-line 5-cylinder engine transversely (from the left to the right of the car) under the hood.

[T4Rick]

So they never made one

[M-R-P]

Having driven powerful rwd and fwd .motors in wet and mud (and doing figure of eight doughnuts round a carpark), gimme rwd all day long.

[p fandango]

So they never made one
i wouldn't be surprised if Volvo tried it out on a prototype, but they never produced a RWD only 850. Have seen a couple that have been converted

[T4Rick]

Having driven powerful rwd and fwd .motors in wet and mud (and doing figure of eight doughnuts round a carpark), gimme rwd all day long.

Im with you all the way there mate lol i crave rwd action

[T4Rick]

i wouldn't be surprised if Volvo tried it out on a prototype, but they never produced a RWD only 850. Have seen a couple that have been converted


Im contemplating it need to think some more first

[p fandango]

Im contemplating it need to think some more first
you'll need this, a AWD rear axle. You'll need the petrol tanks as well because the AWD uses a smaller twin tank system with 2 pumps instead of the normal 850's single set-up. As for the front-end, not sure whether the usual M90 could be used if you can turn the engine. Or i thought of using a M58 (AWD box) with basically no front driveshafts

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/299/img1178gy.jpg

[T4Rick]

Its all ideas at the minute but not a no no

[Dangerous Dave]

i wouldn't be surprised if Volvo tried it out on a prototype, but they never produced a RWD only 850. Have seen a couple that have been converted
There was a V10 engine that was squeezed into some 850s for testing......

The new Volvo V10
http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/graphics/v10engine.jpg This new luxury car from Volvo, the replacement for the S90 range, will be arriving next year (1998) with a new 325bhp Cosworth engine. The engine is a 4.3 litre unit made entirely of aluminium and it weighs under 200kg. It is mated to a five speed automatic gearbox and gives the car a top speed of 250kph (155mph). There are five prototypes of the new car all made by hand at Torslanda in Sweden which are being tested at night on a test track at Hallerad under the utmost secrecy and two 850's have been fitted with the new engine to test it out in traffic conditions. The car will be bigger than current Volvos, longer, wider and with a large wheelbase and apparently the luggage space is quoted as enormous. "Teknikens varld" reports that the code name for the new flagship Volvo is the P2X. When will it arrive we don't know but V10 power sounds exciting doesn't it? Now I wonder how the engine would perform in a Williams or McClaren with Damon or Michael driving?

[p fandango]

Its all ideas at the minute but not a no no
i've already thought about it myself, but going a different route when i eventually get to that stage lol

[M-R-P]

A V10 sweed? I want one....

[T4Rick]

There was a V10 engine that was squeezed into some 850s for testing......

The new Volvo V10
http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/graphics/v10engine.jpg This new luxury car from Volvo, the replacement for the S90 range, will be arriving next year (1998) with a new 325bhp Cosworth engine. The engine is a 4.3 litre unit made entirely of aluminium and it weighs under 200kg. It is mated to a five speed automatic gearbox and gives the car a top speed of 250kph (155mph). There are five prototypes of the new car all made by hand at Torslanda in Sweden which are being tested at night on a test track at Hallerad under the utmost secrecy and two 850's have been fitted with the new engine to test it out in traffic conditions. The car will be bigger than current Volvos, longer, wider and with a large wheelbase and apparently the luggage space is quoted as enormous. "Teknikens varld" reports that the code name for the new flagship Volvo is the P2X. When will it arrive we don't know but V10 power sounds exciting doesn't it? Now I wonder how the engine would perform in a Williams or McClaren with Damon or Michael driving?


Are you serious lol

[Dangerous Dave]

Are you serious lol
Yep, taken from the Volvoclub website Winter 1997 News bulletin
http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/volvonews7.shtml

[t5 pete]

If your good with fabrication it would be quite easy just buy a rear axel to your width and spec, brace it in place, dash out and loom, cut and shape the bulk head make a tunnel then comes to turning the engine round which doesnt leave much room for the 5 pot so what most people do is fit a red block 16v engine in.
Once all fitted and braced custom loom and mapping and you on your way and have a very empty pocket but a very rare car.

[T4Rick]

i've already thought about it myself, but going a different route when i eventually get to that stage lol

First hurdle i need to get across is a gearbox i learnt something new tonight that only a m90 from a 960 s90 and some other random model will fit lol i was looking at a 940 tonight lol.There has to be other boxes out there that can be used with out getting to technical with adaptors and all that

[t5 pete]

you can make any box fit but the two that fit best are the m90 and the borg warner t5 world class box

[T4Rick]

If your good with fabrication it would be quite easy just buy a rear axel to your width and spec, brace it in place, dash out and loom, cut and shape the bulk head make a tunnel then comes to turning the engine round which doesnt leave much room for the 5 pot so what most people do is fit a red block 16v engine in.
Once all fitted and braced custom loom and mapping and you on your way and have a very empty pocket but a very rare car.

Im no expert fabricator but i can make things.Just need to do some more thinking and research first.

[the young mechanic]

Im with you all the way there mate lol i crave rwd action

i got some of that on sunday

[Phil B]

I believe there was an article in practical performance car a few months ago where a guy built an older model estate (maybe a 740?) with a long mounted T5 and rear wheel drive. It did give details as to which gearbox to use but i dont remember exactly, all i remember is there was a LOT of custom work to get it to work, and thats based on an already RWD car.

I believe it was also running a turbo from a scania wagon.

Anyway, it was pale blue with a black/carbon fibre bonnet.

[t5 pete]

That was a 240 estate in sweeden phil

[Dangerous Dave]

UK Guy on Turbobricks did a T5 740

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=132921

[M-R-P]

Guy on Turbobricks did one

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=132921

jeez, quite a read, good find mate.

[p fandango]

Guy on Turbobricks did one

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=132921
i thought Chesh used to be on here

[Dangerous Dave]

i thought Chesh used to be on here
You thinking of Spesh?

[Dangerous Dave]

jeez, quite a read, good find mate.
Yeah, some good stuff on there, wish they would elaborate a bit more on the tuning side though :)

[p fandango]

You thinking of Spesh?
LINK (http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/member.php?u=316). I thought he used to be quite activate, but might of been before the big forum crash or a previous forum

[Dangerous Dave]

LINK (http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/member.php?u=316). I thought he used to be quite activate, but might of been before the big forum crash or a previous forum
Been on recently(ish) then

[Flatout Phil]

If your good with fabrication it would be quite easy just buy a rear axel to your width and spec, brace it in place, dash out and loom, cut and shape the bulk head make a tunnel then comes to turning the engine round which doesnt leave much room for the 5 pot so what most people do is fit a red block 16v engine in.
Once all fitted and braced custom loom and mapping and you on your way and have a very empty pocket but a very rare car.

What we need here is The A-Team!!!

[T4Rick]

The links are based on the 740s lol ,some one must have info on the 850rwd conversion the sweedish do them and there is a few on youtube yet no info lol

[M-R-P]

Hmm, Pedro may have it - use the V70R running gear and "kill" the front drive...?

[Dangerous Dave]

Hey Pedro, check out this RWD 850 with cooling in the back, and some large cooling ducts in the rear wings

http://www.hq-racing.dk/Side3.pdf

And its turbocharged and supercharged
http://www.hq-racing.dk/

Skip to 47secs for the noise
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Possibly the same car, turns out theres a lot of cutting needed LOL
http://www.gatbilar.se/forum/viewtopic.php?id=9143