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AndysR
Monday 12th September 2011, 22:33
As requested by Merc85.....

How much boost do you run and is that with or without a dump valve?

t5_monkey
Monday 12th September 2011, 22:34
17 psi with a forge recirc

AndysR
Monday 12th September 2011, 22:34
I run 20.5 psi without a dump valve, recirc or atmospheric.

t5 pete
Monday 12th September 2011, 22:36
1.25 bar with forge dv

LiamT4
Monday 12th September 2011, 22:36
Not much! lol

No dumpvalve, not really a fan, i prefer the more natural noise of an induction kit.

13psi although i'v been told it should be running 16-17psi.

merc85
Monday 12th September 2011, 22:46
Have been Runing/trying to run Standard recirc valves at 17psi keep blowing holes/not holding boost etc Doh

Was also runing a Bailey DV26, Never again lol

leet5r
Monday 12th September 2011, 22:51
not enough lol , what ever you want really , ran a bar for over 2 yrs no probs , on me 3rd turbo tho lol , seen some evos run 55psi

merc85
Monday 12th September 2011, 22:53
not enough lol , what ever you want really , ran a bar for over 2 yrs no probs , on me 3rd turbo tho lol , seen some evos run 55psi

pmsl, 3rd turbo, i'm on me 3rd recirc lol Turbo next pmsl

WOODY T5
Monday 12th September 2011, 23:15
1-3 to 1-45 bar here.hks dump

merc85
Monday 12th September 2011, 23:17
1-3 to 1-45 bar here.

Dv?

glock19
Tuesday 13th September 2011, 02:17
1.4 bars, Recirc, but tougher spring inside. Internal wastegate (19T) adjusted against creep only.

jardon
Tuesday 13th September 2011, 12:36
21 psi with the stock BCS, Forge 1 bar actuator and standard recirc.

The standard recirc is not a problem for anything a stock turbo can throw at it so not worth "upgrading". They can fail though so worth investigating if losing boost. Bear in mind that all the stock turbos will fade if pushed above stock boost - my 19t will hold 21 psi up to 5000 rpm but drops to 17 psi at 6000 and 16 at 7500 rpm. They saturate quickly due to the small turbine. None of them will hold high boost to high rpm even if fitted with a big compressor wheel - big mid range torque is their forte. I have never had a true boost leak but did blow out the IAT sensor and the top charge pipe once. What does your boost do at WOT Merc?

merc85
Tuesday 13th September 2011, 12:50
21 psi with the stock BCS, Forge 1 bar actuator and standard recirc.

The standard recirc is not a problem for anything a stock turbo can throw at it so not worth "upgrading". They can fail though so worth investigating if losing boost. Bear in mind that all the stock turbos will fade if pushed above stock boost - my 19t will hold 21 psi up to 5000 rpm but drops to 17 psi at 6000 and 16 at 7500 rpm. They saturate quickly due to the small turbine. None of them will hold high boost to high rpm even if fitted with a big compressor wheel - big mid range torque is their forte. I have never had a true boost leak but did blow out the IAT sensor and the top charge pipe once. What does your boost do at WOT Merc?

Boost's 18psi Drops harshly down to 15.5 psi. Have tested the Recirc with a vac pump, and it does not hold Boost.

jardon
Tuesday 13th September 2011, 12:56
Boost's 18psi Drops harshly down to 15.5 psi. Have tested the Recirc with a vac pump, and it does not hold Boost.

How are you controlling boost? I'm out of depth on MBC's etc but unless the reciec valve is visibly faulty I would say the fault lies elsewhere.

mitchyboy01
Tuesday 13th September 2011, 13:13
My T4 runs 22psi from remap previous owner did. In for Walbro today so hopefully the stuttering issue will be sorted!!

merc85
Tuesday 13th September 2011, 14:49
How are you controlling boost? I'm out of depth on MBC's etc but unless the reciec valve is visibly faulty I would say the fault lies elsewhere.

The Boost is controlled with the MBC, The recirc has been vac tested, and has proved faulty, as it does not hold any Vac.

smithson007
Tuesday 13th September 2011, 17:15
1.25 bar with forge dv

Same Here!

BlackBeast
Tuesday 13th September 2011, 19:35
25psi to 7500rpm, but it does tend to overboost to 28psi when the temps are low. Thats with a Forge 004 dump valve and 1bar actuator.

Jim S70R
Tuesday 13th September 2011, 19:45
Running 1.2 bar

JelT5
Tuesday 13th September 2011, 22:35
Zero at the moment because my engine went pop lol

Usually around 1.2-1.4 bar when it's working :)

JT
Wednesday 14th September 2011, 17:22
1.3 bar
as per the PR8 racing regulations:(

claymore
Wednesday 14th September 2011, 17:27
26psi at prescott a couple of weeks ago, but turned back down to 20psi now

Volvostorm
Wednesday 14th September 2011, 21:11
No idea yet, but I know it can run upto 2bar (29psi) without stress, possible even 2.2bar

Ade
Thursday 15th September 2011, 00:39
A Rica mapped ECU which sent it to the top of the gauge on the dash! :lol: Whatever that is?
Just on a standard turbo and a Bailey DV26, (which I'll be chucking soon probably!).

gmain1967
Thursday 15th September 2011, 18:20
18 psi on a T4. But that is with a 19T.......:wink:

t5_monkey
Thursday 15th September 2011, 19:12
Wish I had a 1.6 Drive... S40.. then I could say 36 PSI :o



18 psi on a T4. But that is with a 19T.......:wink:


Yeah but that's like 180psi on the regular turbo :tank:

There's a pistonheads run this Sunday fancy embarassing a few porsches ?

gmain1967
Thursday 15th September 2011, 19:17
Wish I had a 1.6 Drive... S40.. then I could say 36 PSI :o





Yeah but that's like 180psi on the regular turbo :tank:

There's a pistonheads run this Sunday fancy embarassing a few porsches ?

LOL - nice idea but too much on this weekend and back to work Monday after two weeks off. Been anything but a holiday:(

danny-R
Thursday 15th September 2011, 20:39
1.5 bar with dv before it ££££ itself lol

theflyingbrick
Sunday 18th September 2011, 17:37
peaks at 20 psi but drops right down to about 13 saying that the clutch started slipping quite a bit so when thats fixed if it still does it ill investigate the actuator!!

merc85
Sunday 18th September 2011, 18:16
Sounds like a Boost leak somewhere, Keep us posted.

I take it your runing a blanking plate with ur dv.

Full stage zero tune is a must, helps in the long run.

8501970
Sunday 18th September 2011, 21:05
no idea yet, but i know it can run upto 2bar (29psi) without stress, possible even 2.2bar

2.2 bar !!!!!!!!!!!!!

theflyingbrick
Sunday 18th September 2011, 22:11
Sounds like a Boost leak somewhere, Keep us posted.

I take it your runing a blanking plate with ur dv.

Full stage zero tune is a must, helps in the long run.

yeah mate blanking plate and dv i think its the clutch where the engine was just revving and not revolving is why it dropped so much but we will see ;)

frobes2
Monday 19th September 2011, 09:42
1.2 bar with a Forge blanking plate and no dump valve.

Scott..

swedenpower
Thursday 22nd September 2011, 14:40
14 psi with Standard recirc

smithy
Thursday 22nd September 2011, 16:45
2.2 bar !!!!!!!!!!!!!

2.2 bar thats childs play mine is rated at pushing 2.5 bar scary lol

merc85
Friday 23rd September 2011, 00:06
These Boost figures is it the maximum the car wll run all day long or just a quick burst?

Tyring to find out weather ive a problem or not.

I can boost 20psi but after sustained 15sec's she drops to 15psi? i am running a auto ecu in a manual, could this be the problem?

glock19
Friday 23rd September 2011, 00:12
Tyring to find out weather ive a problem or not.

I can boost 20psi but after sustained 15sec's she drops to 15psi? i am running a auto ecu in a manual, could this be the problem?

On 5th gear for 15 Secs ?
The Auto ECU is not the culprit, it could be the mapping where the load indeces is lower and thus lower boost. If this has never happended before, check your MAF sensor

jardon
Friday 23rd September 2011, 08:10
These Boost figures is it the maximum the car wll run all day long or just a quick burst?

Tyring to find out weather ive a problem or not.

I can boost 20psi but after sustained 15sec's she drops to 15psi? i am running a auto ecu in a manual, could this be the problem?

Stock frame turbos will support ~1.0 bar above 6000rpm. If you are running 20 psi peak and it drops off at ~5000rpm then this is because the turbo is out of puff. You could nail the wastegate shut and it would still fade. My stage 1 tunes on the 16t all ran peak 18-19 psi but dropped off to 12 psi at 7000 rpm. My 19t runs a peak of 1.4 bar and drops to just over a bar at 7500 rpm. This may explain what you are seeing on the gauge - could you do a 4th gear pull from 2000 rpm (or whatever is deemed safe for you rods) to 6000 rpm and get back to us with your boost at 1000 rpm intervals?

merc85
Friday 23rd September 2011, 13:30
I'm beging to think it's my 15g turbo runing out of puff. If it was a Boost leak it would imediatly drop dont you think,

At the moment she will hold a 18psi until around 4,300 rpm then the boost tails off to a 1 Bar aprox 14.8psi

I Will try and do a run with a friend so he can look at the gauges.

Thanks again for your sugestions

jardon
Friday 23rd September 2011, 14:31
That sounds ballpark normal to me and I suspect you haven't got a boost leak. Any other 15g users have a profile of their boost?

Wobbly Dave
Friday 23rd September 2011, 14:49
1.25 bar with 19T

850 t5 vs 600cc
Thursday 29th September 2011, 08:47
I'm not running as i sold mine last year. on the look out for another volvo to abuse . Mine did run at .9 bar.