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merc85
Sunday 28th August 2011, 18:59
I know this is a little daft because all car's are different. But if you could give me a Guide, How much Bhp do you think my Current Car is Running dep on mods?

Flywheel and crank, Mods are:

Hlm 304 Map
MBC @ 18 psi
Simota Cold Air intake
Walbro Fuel Pump
Standard Organe Injectors
Up rated 850 r clutch

Car is 855 t5 manual 145k doesn't use oil or water on the Button
Will be Comparing it wiv a 297bhp @ the wheels, Cupra tomorrow will keep you all informed.

t5 pete
Sunday 28th August 2011, 19:12
at a rough geuss any where between 230-260bhp maybe 270bhp max if your lucky

T5frankie
Sunday 28th August 2011, 19:30
yeah i'd say 250bhp mate, if your comparing to a 300whp car then its gonna blow you away lol, has his car a proven dyno graph?

merc85
Sunday 28th August 2011, 19:40
yeah i'd say 250bhp mate, if your comparing to a 300whp car then its gonna blow you away lol, has his car a proven dyno graph?

Yeah thats totally what i'm expecting, My 850 will pass my mates Cupra k1 which is 240bhp. thats why i'm comparing it with one which is 294bhp.

bigrotch
Sunday 28th August 2011, 19:44
It was dynoed this year and it's 294bhp to the wheels oh dear Gav not looking good lol have faith lol

T5frankie
Sunday 28th August 2011, 19:46
Yeah thats totally what i'm expecting, My 850 will pass my mates Cupra k1 which is 240bhp. thats why i'm comparing it with one which is 297bhp.

297 bhp or whp which would be more like 340bhp?

merc85
Sunday 28th August 2011, 19:52
It was dynoed this year and it's 294bhp to the wheels oh dear Gav not looking good lol have faith lol

See Mr Rotch , I did tell ya pmsl, My poor 855 is going to get wasted lol

T5frankie
Sunday 28th August 2011, 20:02
is is 294bhp at the wheels or is that bhp at the crank?

merc85
Sunday 28th August 2011, 20:07
is is 294bhp at the wheels or is that bhp at the crank?

Unfortunatly, i was told it is 294 at the wheels Doh!! lol

T5frankie
Sunday 28th August 2011, 20:10
if its only 297 bhp it shouldn't be too much of a whitewash lol

merc85
Sunday 28th August 2011, 20:13
if its only 297 bhp it shouldn't be too much of a whitewash lol

LoL cant i borrow your car Frankie lol

T5frankie
Sunday 28th August 2011, 21:14
LoL cant i borrow your car Frankie lol

yeah if i had it lol

merc85
Sunday 28th August 2011, 21:40
Ok, Just a Up date, The cupra turns out to be 294bhp at the flywheel.

What you guys recon? could a 17 year 855 t5 have a Shot?

LiamT4
Sunday 28th August 2011, 21:42
What turbo you running and are you getting a constant 18psi in all gears?

p fandango
Sunday 28th August 2011, 21:42
Ok, Just a Up date, The cupra turns out to be 294bhp at the flywheel.

What you guys recon? could a 17 year 855 t5 have a Shot?
the Cupra's going to be a lighter car, so basically NO lol

merc85
Sunday 28th August 2011, 21:43
Thanks for they reply Liam, No only 18psi in the last two gear's 15-16psi in the 1st three gears. although i will be tweaking the mbc. and a 15g lol

LiamT4
Sunday 28th August 2011, 21:52
The cupra r weighs around 1380kg, so not a lot lighter.

Shame your not getting 18psi in 3rd, you should be ok midrange but unless he's a sh*te driver it will be quicker.

But remember your in a slow, old mans car ;) so it doesn't matter if your not as fast.
As long as you don't get destroyed, you can take the p out of him!

"fast car! lol, you can only just beat an old tank! lol"

merc85
Sunday 28th August 2011, 21:59
LOL Wonder how much he has paid for his Cupra, I gave £700 for my T5 lol

We will see, Be good to compare the AMD remaped car to my friends 240bhp standard Lean

T5frankie
Sunday 28th August 2011, 22:00
just turn the boost up to 22psi just for the race might have a chance then

M-R-P
Sunday 28th August 2011, 22:06
I recon, if you're worried about getting slaughtered, (this will work better if you have tinted windows) Strip out the back seats, spare wheel and any other cr@p you got stashed in there and if you're feeling brave, give the w/g actuator a turn (just for the run) - give the old girl a fighting chance! :)
or just take it on the chin and let VW parts bin win. :hilarious

merc85
Sunday 28th August 2011, 22:15
just turn the boost up to 22psi just for the race might have a chance then

Liken Your Stile Frankie lol, And as for the tints, ; i have already thought of that one LOL, erm no, i refuse to b passed by a Glorifide Skoda pmsl

leet5r
Sunday 28th August 2011, 22:19
mine made 278bhp at the crank , ran a 14.3 at york, mods are 16t ,s60r manifold , whites ,mbc , unknown remap and a decat.

your 15g with be pushin hot air after 18psi so a wouldnt bother turning it up

merc85
Sunday 28th August 2011, 22:25
mine made 278bhp at the crank , ran a 14.3 at york, mods are 16t ,s60r manifold , whites ,mbc , unknown remap and a decat.

your 15g with be pushin hot air after 18psi so a wouldnt bother turning it up

Thats a Damm nice spec leet5r, s60r manifold is deffo one mod i'd like

T5frankie
Monday 29th August 2011, 04:37
YOu need a bigger turbo mate the 15g s are rubbish

theflyingbrick
Monday 29th August 2011, 11:50
just my two bobs worth ive only got mbc @13 psi, 3" turbo back zorst i also have dyno printout from previous owner with 248.9 bhp granted i dont know if its whp or at the flywheel but i followed siamblue to the last essex meet and i kept up with him!! and i murder my brother clk 320,my dads v8 mazda b2000 my cousins golf gti turbo (with mods) and recently a freinds golf tsi (turbo and supercharged) and more besides, so i think youve got a fighting chance again power depends on the individual car like you said,but also the driver helps lol

T5frankie
Monday 29th August 2011, 12:33
just my two bobs worth ive only got mbc @13 psi, 3" turbo back zorst i also have dyno printout from previous owner with 248.9 bhp granted i dont know if its whp or at the flywheel but i followed siamblue to the last essex meet and i kept up with him!! and i murder my brother clk 320,my dads v8 mazda b2000 my cousins golf gti turbo (with mods) and recently a freinds golf tsi (turbo and supercharged) and more besides, so i think youve got a fighting chance again power depends on the individual car like you said,but also the driver helps lol

His car has around 300bhp mate, yours at 13psi will be the 248 bhp you mentioned is uhat on a 15g?

theflyingbrick
Monday 29th August 2011, 18:43
His car has around 300bhp mate, yours at 13psi will be the 248 bhp you mentioned is uhat on a 15g?

tbh i havent checked no history suggests its anything other than a 15g, everything still stock im sending the ecu off next week but other than that its standard,and also have to mention i didnt down shift,just kept in fifth and i kept whithin striking distance it wernt till we parked up and he said and i quote "yours is quick" i smiled and said "you reckon" to which he replied "well it kept up with mine" i think it just backs the theory that different cars with similar mods will always perform differently,im constently arguing with people who guesstimate the outcome of potential races cause to be honest when the green flag drops the bull**** stops :) facts and figures count for nothing then :hidesbehi

and tbh in a volvo its a win win situation coz weve always got the "well it is only a cheap volvo" excuse for when we lose ;)

T5frankie
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:01
tbh i havent checked no history suggests its anything other than a 15g, everything still stock im sending the ecu off next week but other than that its standard,and also have to mention i didnt down shift,just kept in fifth and i kept whithin striking distance it wernt till we parked up and he said and i quote "yours is quick" i smiled and said "you reckon" to which he replied "well it kept up with mine" i think it just backs the theory that different cars with similar mods will always perform differently,im constently arguing with people who guesstimate the outcome of potential races cause to be honest when the green flag drops the bull**** stops :) facts and figures count for nothing then :hidesbehi

and tbh in a volvo its a win win situation coz weve always got the "well it is only a cheap volvo" excuse for when we lose ;)

thats funny cos i never lose lol :B_steerin

p fandango
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:03
thats funny cos i never lose lol :B_steerin
have you beat my 14.5 set with a rubbish 15g yet ;)

T5frankie
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:06
have you beat my 14.5 set with a rubbish 15g yet ;)

line us up together pedro and you will lose mate........:ready2go:

p fandango
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:08
line us up together pedro and you will lose mate........:ready2go:
we shall see, you'll stop quicker than me because i've got to put the brakes back on yet lol

T5frankie
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:10
we shall see, you'll stop quicker than me because i've got to put the brakes back on yet lol

number 1. your car will never be finished lol
number 2. i'll race you with my bike lol

p fandango
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:21
number 1. your car will never be finished lol
your right, already got the next phase lined up lol

number 2. i'll race you with my bike lol
well i suppose if your Volvo can't hack it, cheat ;) lol

Wobbly Dave
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:23
merc - why don't you just put it on a dyno & find out? I would pick just one dyno & use that always. that way you can know any differences/gains/losses over time. Other thing is peak figures do not give the full picture. The area under the torque curve is where it counts.

T5frankie
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:26
your right, already got the next phase lined up lol

well i suppose if your Volvo can't hack it, cheat ;) lol

nah my volvo would take yours mate no sweat lol

theflyingbrick
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:39
nah my volvo would take yours mate no sweat lol

now this is more like it good old slagging match,which makes the actual race more exciting im yet to race mine so havent got any times etc but i cant wait till i do ;)

theflyingbrick
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:41
thats funny cos i never lose lol :B_steerin

i take it your the one to beat then?? so what times have i got to aim for to be in your league? and what car are you running?

merc85
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:45
Well i'd like to say i Got damm good result, But he didnt wanna compare in the end.

So we will never know what the outcome would have been, But i will be putting her on a dyno shortly as suggested.

Volvostorm
Monday 29th August 2011, 22:47
My dad is bigger than your dad!:hidesbehi

T5frankie
Monday 29th August 2011, 23:02
i take it your the one to beat then?? so what times have i got to aim for to be in your league? and what car are you running?

no mate their are far quicker cars on here than mine, mine is undergoing an engine transplant and a couple of extra mods my best is a 14.6 which i think is the fastest v70r on here (they are the heaviest) smithness' 850 is rapid he got a 13.4 i think

theflyingbrick
Monday 29th August 2011, 23:55
14.6 is a good time id be happy if i run a 14 tbh if i ran a 13 i think id need something to mop up the mess lmao i know smithness has done alot to his so im not gonna fool myself into thinking it will be close but a 14 something will put a smile on my face :)

theflyingbrick
Tuesday 30th August 2011, 00:01
Well i'd like to say i Got damm good result, But he didnt wanna compare in the end.

So we will never know what the outcome would have been, But i will be putting her on a dyno shortly as suggested.

see mate people love the stats but when it comes to the crunch theyre not so brave!! let us know what happens on the rollers,maybe someone should (nugde nudge) organise a dyno day ;) im sure we could get enough people i think about ten cars would get you a half day with a bit of discount on the rollers,would make a good meet ;)

Wobbly Dave
Tuesday 30th August 2011, 10:59
I am hoping that HLM will be able to put on a Charity RR day again in October. We raised over 1000 quid for the Air Ambulance last time.

theflyingbrick
Tuesday 30th August 2011, 16:08
I am hoping that HLM will be able to put on a Charity RR day again in October. We raised over 1000 quid for the Air Ambulance last time.

that would be good i dont mind a little drive up to the midlands i might mention it to hamish when i speak to him tommorow :) gonna get the remap sorted so ill drop a few hints ;)

LiamT4
Tuesday 30th August 2011, 22:32
no mate their are far quicker cars on here than mine, mine is undergoing an engine transplant and a couple of extra mods my best is a 14.6 which i think is the fastest v70r on here (they are the heaviest) smithness' 850 is rapid he got a 13.4 i think

Only richards s60r has ran quicker than smithness this year (13.3), but you can ignore his time, because he cheats.;)

WOODY T5
Tuesday 30th August 2011, 23:09
maybe i need 4wheel drive now.but i think on a nice cool day will beat that time?

LiamT4
Tuesday 30th August 2011, 23:15
maybe i need 4wheel drive now.but i think on a nice cool day will beat that time?

Maybe, but richard would go a bit quicker too. Although that intercooler on yours seemed to be doing a very good job of keeping your temps down anyway.

Get some nice soft slicks on the front, that would make it more even.

T5frankie
Tuesday 30th August 2011, 23:36
from a rolling start richards car would get thrashed by deans