My First 850

[JT's Mechanic]

Having helped JT build his 850 to go racing in (after initially questioning his decision to buy and old mans car :saythat:) I've come to really like them, and so decided I wanted one of my own. So after keeping an eye on eBay, this weekend I went out and bought my very own Volvo 850 T5 :)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0283.jpg

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0282.jpg

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0281.jpg

[Jamest5r]

Welcome to the club :) think you've got to be one of the youngest t5 owners in the country. What you got planned for it?

[antz]

Looks a nice one!!!!

[JT]

Welcome to the club :) think you've got to be one of the youngest t5 owners in the country. What you got planned for it?

Well I already have an R bumper to go on it...

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0284.jpg

A set of Titans and maybe lower it a bit too. I think that's pretty much it for the outside

As for the inside before anything else I need to get rid of the tape player!! lol

They're the first things I want to do, but I'm sure I'll think of plenty more later on

[AndysR]

Nice one, great stuff.
That's one nice looking car you've got yourself, and with the suggested wheels and fitting the R front bumper it will look brilliant. Think you should try and source yourself an R saloon boot spoiler to finish the look off ;)

[JT]

thats not me wtih that reply! lol

sams using my pc!!

[T5frankie]

welcome to the club mate

[AndysR]

thats not me wtih that reply! lol

sams using my pc!!

Lol, I had guessed that.. ;)

[JT]

Nice one, great stuff.
That's one nice looking car you've got yourself, and with the suggested wheels and fitting the R front bumper it will look brilliant. Think you should try and source yourself an R saloon boot spoiler to finish the look off ;)

he has his eye on yours!! lol

[p fandango]

i'm just wondering why that bumpers not on yet? lol. As i said yesterday does look very nice, never seen an interior like that without a single mark or sign of wear (now get them bloody wheels off lol)

[Jim S70R]

As said above looks like a nice one, be keeping a keen eye on your updates.

[Porcine_Aviator]

Nice one and :welcome:

One small thing - don't let Pedro get near it with his pet angle grinder :)

[Volvostorm]

They do look good in that blue :)

[JT's Mechanic]

It's actually grey, although it doesn't look it in the top picture :)

[Volvostorm]

I like them in grey too :D

[theflyingbrick]

i saw that one on ebay but the photos did not do it justice it looks much better now with a little spit and polish good purchase :)

[JT's Mechanic]

Thanks, you're absolutely right, the eBay photos didnt do it any justice at all, the pictures were all really washed out

[JelT5]

Welcome and looks to be a good find, well done :)

[M-R-P]

Nice looking motor, that :) you'll have fun with it :beer:

[martybelfastt5]

nice buy ,,great colour will be watching this

[37831999]

Looks really nice mate, think I'm fairly young to have an 850 t5 ESTATE! Lol which my mates took the piss out until they were wooped by it! Lol wise choice in car you won't regret it lol keep us updated ;-)

[The Flying Moose]

How on earth did I miss this thread Sam? Nice looking car, I am very Jealous!

[JT's Mechanic]

How on earth did I miss this thread Sam? Nice looking car, I am very Jealous!

:) Thanks, will look even better soon hopefully. Lucked out that weekend really, perfect colour, manual, cleanest car I've ever seen and the R bumper is already the right colour for the car so no need to get it sprayed.

Sorted the insurance last night, just need to get it taxed and away I go :B_steerin

[The Flying Moose]

:) Thanks, will look even better soon hopefully. Lucked out that weekend really, perfect colour, manual, cleanest car I've ever seen and the R bumper is already the right colour for the car so no need to get it sprayed.

Sorted the insurance last night, just need to get it taxed and away I go :B_steerin

Happy Days!

You have no excuse not to attend trax this weekend then! I have one spare entry ticket and camping is only a tenner...you know you want to.

[JT]

How on earth did I miss this thread Sam? Nice looking car, I am very Jealous!

I thought you might be!! lol

[The Flying Moose]

I thought you might be!! lol

Its a blooming good job I dont have your address....

Its exactly what I would have bought. I have been rather slack recently however.

[JT]

you never know,after the weekend, you might get to see what it looks like with your bumper on it!!!

just to rub it in!! lol

[The Flying Moose]

you never know,after the weekend, you might get to see what it looks like with your bumper on it!!!

just to rub it in!! lol

Brilliant, thanks mate!

Im sure it will suit, its nice to know it will live on in a strange kinda way ;)

[cameron]

Very tidy looking car, will look tons better with the bumper and some Titans :B_thumb:

[Jamest5r]

you never know,after the weekend, you might get to see what it looks like with your bumper on it!!!

just to rub it in!! lol


Harsh mate, but bloody funny :) always good to give a mod a kick when he's down lol.

[JT]

only messing about, he knows exactly why I bought it:)

[The Flying Moose]

Harsh mate, but bloody funny :) always good to give a mod a kick when he's down lol.

To make matters worse, I cannot seem to find a Volvo to drive for the weekend so ill be turning up to Trax representing the Volvo performance club in a ...... vectra!


only messing about, he knows exactly why I bought it:)

Because you wanted an R bumper for Sams car?

God I'm good :)

Im just going to buy a genuine T5-R again when I find the right one.

[Jamest5r]

only messing about, he knows exactly why I bought it:)


So am i :) between the 3 of us weve not had much luck with car's so a bit of p1ss taking seems the done thing :)

[JT]

good luck with that!

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3141077.htm

shame this one has gone!

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3042576.htm

[The Flying Moose]

So am i :) between the 3 of us weve not had much luck with car's so a bit of p1ss taking seems the done thing :)

Im not even sure what luck is anymore... spend three years looking for a mint T5-R saloon find one.... well you know the rest, get my old car back and have nothing but problems.

Its no cheap thing Volvo ownership but it adds character, I have no idea how those who cannot repair them themselves manage however!

[JT]

So am i :) between the 3 of us weve not had much luck with car's so a bit of p1ss taking seems the done thing :)

Laugh or cry?? lol

[The Flying Moose]

good luck with that!

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3141077.htm

shame this one has gone!

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3042576.htm

Both very nice cars indeed...

I paid a bag of sand for my last T5-R but im doubtful ill manage to do the same again.

I wouldnt mind buying one with a bust engine and building one up over time now I have some temporary wheels, why break the grey estate you may say then? Well I was never really happy with it, it would never have been an R and having been a member of that exclusive club its hard to explain the appeal until you have... jamest5r will understand ;)

[Jamest5r]

Im trying very hard to get the 850 done by sat if i manage it(sort a water leak and start the bloody thing) you are welcome to the saffy for the weekend, if not ive got Frankie's sitting outside lol.

[The Flying Moose]

Im trying very hard to get the 850 done by sat if i manage it(sort a water leak and start the bloody thing) you are welcome to the saffy for the weekend, if not ive got Frankie's sitting outside lol.

Thats an offer I certainly wouldnt refuse James cheers. I need to meet up with you and smithy to head to the campsite saturday as I am dropping off Richards tickets and picking up the banner.

I am free all week mate If you want help getting the motor finished Ill come down, would be nice to get out the house... I have nothing to repair now the 850 is off the road.

I could bring a boot load of spares ;)

[james]

hello and welcome looks a nice motor mate :)

[Jamest5r]

Thats an offer I certainly wouldnt refuse James cheers. I need to meet up with you and smithy to head to the campsite saturday as I am dropping off Richards tickets and picking up the banner.

I am free all week mate If you want help getting the motor finished Ill come down, would be nice to get out the house... I have nothing to repair now the 850 is off the road.

I could bring a boot load of spares ;)


Not a problem, the water leak shoud'nt be too much of a problem it's the non starting that is puzzling the crap out of me.

Im guessing that's your text ive just got? as my gsd decided to have a chomp on my phone ive lost all numbers...not good but went to 3 and they gave me an htc thingy as i was due an upgrade by luck but ive got no bloody idea how to use it lol.

Sorry for the Hijack Sam put your complaint to a mod :)

[The Flying Moose]

Not a problem, the water leak shoud'nt be too much of a problem it's the non starting that is puzzling the crap out of me.

Im guessing that's your text ive just got? as my gsd decided to have a chomp on my phone ive lost all numbers...not good but went to 3 and they gave me an htc thingy as i was due an upgrade by luck but ive got no bloody idea how to use it lol.

Sorry for the Hijack Sam put your complaint to a mod :)

Will need to complain to a proper mod Sam sorry :)

Excellent! Yes I did just send a text.

Seriously though if you do want help after work friday or whenever just ask, we'll have it working... I bet you!

I would go along electrical lines if its cracking... have many spares I can haul down for "trial and error" until it fires up.

[Jamest5r]

Will need to complain to a proper mod Sam sorry :)

Excellent! Yes I did just send a text.

Seriously though if you do want help after work friday or whenever just ask, we'll have it working... I bet you!

I would go along electrical lines if its cracking... have many spares I can haul down for "trial and error" until it fires up.


That might be a plan mate, think i could wangle a 3-4ish finish, welcome to crash at mine again beers and curry :)

[The Flying Moose]

That might be a plan mate, think i could wangle a 3-4ish finish, welcome to crash at mine again beers and curry :)

Sounds good to me mate, two heads better than one eh? :rotfl:

Oh dear, its been a while!

Ill pack the car out with spares on Friday then. Hopefully get the bugger running.

[JT]

welcome to crash at mine again beers and curry :)

Count me in!! pmsl!!

no spares, but I am an electrician, not an auto 1 I might add!!

only kidding, I cant do another 400mls quite so soon.....lol

[The Flying Moose]

Count me in!! pmsl!!

no spares, but I am an electrician, not an auto 1 I might add!!

only kidding, I cant do another 400mls quite so soon.....lol

Had to panic a little there thought I was going to get an earful for going off-topic... (remember to get a thread in the project section Sam).

You would have to tell me you where an electrician now wouldnt you! I spent most of today wiring the extension at my folks house and could have done with some guidance in certain area's... nevermind finished now **tut tut**

[JT]

Had to panic a little there thought I was going to get an earful for going off-topic... (remember to get a thread in the project section Sam).

You would have to tell me you where an electrician now wouldnt you! I spent most of today wiring the extension at my folks house and could have done with some guidance in certain area's... nevermind finished now **tut tut**

ha ha! I can go off topic on this thread! pmsl

well now you know and by the way, if you needed guidance, you shouldn't be doing it!!!:(
I think and hope your a guy who does things properly, so fingers crossed.
you have my number for future events:)

[The Flying Moose]

ha ha! I can go off topic on this thread! pmsl

well now you know and by the way, if you needed guidance, you shouldn't be doing it!!!:(
I think and hope your a guy who does things properly, so fingers crossed.
you have my number for future events:)

Who said I wasnt a qualified electrician seeking a fellow specialists advice in a diffifult situation? ;)

Electrics are my thing JT, I have always been good with the stuff that goes bang in the wet.

If a jobs worth doing its worth doing properly, thats what I say mate.

Simple job really putting a new ring in for lighting in a three room dormer extension.

[JT]

Electrics are my thing JT, I have always been good with the stuff that goes bang in the wet.

as we say:" red to red,black to black, blue to bits "
thats the polite version! lol


ok, if you have an understanding of it, I'll breath a sigh of relief.:)

[The Flying Moose]

as we say:" red to red,black to black, blue to bits "
thats the polite version! lol


ok, if you have an understanding of it, I'll breath a sigh of relief.:)

You make it sound hard? Its only a series of coloured wires and im Colourblind! Anyone with a multi-meter and a basic understanding of ohms law should be able to wire anything in series or parallel... these blooming electricians get away with charging a fortune, hence the need to learn.

Nothing against you personally Johnny, your a decent guy but why can electricians never quote you a price inclusive of VAT? lol

[JT]

You make it sound hard? Its only a series of coloured wires and im Colourblind! Anyone with a multi-meter and a basic understanding of ohms law should be able to wire anything in series or parallel... these blooming electricians get away with charging a fortune, hence the need to learn.

Nothing against you personally Johnny, your a decent guy but why can electricians never quote you a price inclusive of VAT? lol

er..... cos its a buisness/trade??? and obviously aslong as they are VAT reg?

I will agree house bashing (as we call it) is easy,hard work,but easy.
I normally do comercial/industrial work,so big stuff really,415v etc etc.
basically if you get it wrong, it aint pretty and it ****ing well hurts! trust me! lol



ps,having said that, I could not work in the services though, my full respect to anyone who does!!

[Jamest5r]

Sounds good to me mate, two heads better than one eh? :rotfl:

Oh dear, its been a while!

Ill pack the car out with spares on Friday then. Hopefully get the bugger running.


Been cleared with the Mrs :) will sort out the work bit tomorrow and make a plan :)

Three heads including Smithy he's on the case as well :)

[pigfight]

thats a very tidy looking motor, well done for the find, as everyones already said, it'l look awsome with titans and the r spoilers.
especially like the plate by the way.... 'DOH'....class man.

[The Flying Moose]

er..... cos its a buisness/trade??? and obviously aslong as they are VAT reg?

I will agree house bashing (as we call it) is easy,hard work,but easy.
I normally do comercial/industrial work,so big stuff really,415v etc etc.
basically if you get it wrong, it aint pretty and it ****ing well hurts! trust me! lol



ps,having said that, I could not work in the services though, my full respect to anyone who does!!

Just remember volts hurt... amps kill :eye-poppi

I too have maximum respect for those in the services... unfortunately I dont class myself as one of those! If you see what we do you probably wouldnt either!!!


Been cleared with the Mrs :) will sort out the work bit tomorrow and make a plan :)

Three heads including Smithy he's on the case as well :)

Excellent, look forward to seeing Mrs Clancy and the kids.

Smithy??? Eh, not working nights... does this man ever stop?

Well with the chuckle brothers on the case not sure I need attend :hidesbehi

[JT's Mechanic]

thats a very tidy looking motor, well done for the find, as everyones already said, it'l look awsome with titans and the r spoilers.
especially like the plate by the way.... 'DOH'....class man.

Thanks :)

I just hope the plate isn't a sign lol

[JT]

anyway, back to topic, lol

Can Anyone recommend some lowering springs?

[T5frankie]

Im trying very hard to get the 850 done by sat if i manage it(sort a water leak and start the bloody thing) you are welcome to the saffy for the weekend, if not ive got Frankie's sitting outside lol.

i am watching lol yeah only been 5 weeks now :cry:

[Tomcat]

anyway, back to topic, lol

Can Anyone recommend some lowering springs?

Eibach are pretty damn good, had them on my last R (Which has stiffer springs anyway) and they give a really good ride.

[AndysR]

Clicked on the link thinking that perhaps, after what seemed to be a fair number of posts, the R bumper was fitted and possibly more and what do I find... Chat about electrics or some other bum rubbish! Guy's you owe me 5 minutes of my time! lol

[JT]

patience my friend........

a starwars link is tempting, but i wont bother lol

[AndysR]

patience my friend........

a starwars link is tempting, but i wont bother lol

If it's snatchwars you could consider your debt repaid! That's a Star Wars link that is always worth watching....

For the benefit of those who have not seen it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDKiQfBs9lo

[The Flying Moose]

I feel at this point I must contribute by making a reccommendation.

I strongly reccommend the H&R coil springs, I had the 30mm drop H&R's on my 854 and it sat perfectly and handled briliantly, smithness can vouch for this. They are now sat in the garage looking sorry for themselves.

[martybelfastt5]

I feel at this point I must contribute by making a reccommendation.

I strongly reccommend the H&R coil springs, I had the 30mm drop H&R's on my 854 and it sat perfectly and handled briliantly, smithness can vouch for this. They are now sat in the garage looking sorry for themselves.

so they are off the car lol,,,,? then i need your details

[The Flying Moose]

so they are off the car lol,,,,? then i need your details

Yes mate got them removed from shocks yesterday.

Im away after tomorrow until the 13th. I can send them off tomorrow or after the 13th... PM sent.

[p fandango]

Clicked on the link thinking that perhaps, after what seemed to be a fair number of posts, the R bumper was fitted and possibly more and what do I find... Chat about electrics or some other bum rubbish! Guy's you owe me 5 minutes of my time! lol
your not the only one, especially when i know for a fact young Sam knows how to change the front bumpers himself because i helped him do JT's while in the Castle Coombe pits

SORT IT OUT SAM ;) lol

[JT]

Eibach are pretty damn good, had them on my last R (Which has stiffer springs anyway) and they give a really good ride.

and wheres the best place to get those??

cheers

[Tomcat]

You can get them from Ebay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=Volvo+850+Eibach+springs&_sacat=See-All-Categories) for around £220.

[JT's Mechanic]

your not the only one, especially when i know for a fact young Sam knows how to change the front bumpers himself because i helped him do JT's while in the Castle Coombe pits

SORT IT OUT SAM ;) lol

Lol, well tomorrow I'll actually be able to drive the thing so I'm sure there will be a few changes happening over the weekend :)

[JT's Mechanic]

Me and John got the R front bumper fitted today :)

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0297.jpg

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0298.jpg


And a shiny strut brace:

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0295.jpg

And can anyone explain this peice of plastic that only seems to block the air intake in front of the intercooler?

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0293.jpg
http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0294.jpg

[Al115]

Yes it's a snow baffle I believe. Remember the cars were made to cope with Swedish winters! :)

I removed mine. Don't get much snow in Herts.

[p fandango]

looking good Sam, it nice to get out on the road in it today?

now you need a set of Titans & a newer expansion bottle cap, the grey ones were changed to green when they improved the design

[JT's Mechanic]

Yes it was. Although it was only a short journey to get it on the driveway. Will have a proper go tomorrow :)

How come johns is green then if it's older than mine? And does it have to be green, can't I get it in black or chrome or something lol

[JT]

now you need a set of Titans & a newer expansion bottle cap, the grey ones were changed to green when they improved the design

the green ones are lighter then yea???? lol

[p fandango]

How come johns is green then if it's older than mine? And does it have to be green, can't I get it in black or chrome or something lol
some one must of already changed it. Don't think i've ever seen any covers or anything for the expansion bottle caps

[p fandango]

the green ones are lighter then yea???? lol
no, just better for the enviroment (i'll get my coat lol)

[JT]

ok swampy

come back when ur ready!! lol

[Jim S70R]

Looking good :B_thumb:

[AndysR]

Nice to see the cars finally got a proper front bumper. Looking forward to seeing your updates, keep up the good work.

[The Flying Moose]

Looks spot on mate, you need yours next to Andy's now when your done... two grey saloons will look fantastic :)

[cameron]

Looking loads better :B_thumb:

Titans next.

[JT's Mechanic]

Question time:

On the way home from work today I gave it a boot full up the slip road on to the dual carriageway (just for fun as I was the only one on it :)), but after a couple of seconds or so a light in the bottom left of the dash started flashing, I instinctively lifted off straight away so I don't know which one it was but looking at it there only seems to be bulb warning lights and the fuel warning light there.

Any ideas what it was or what might have caused it?

[volvo]

Hi mate

its Qady! supplied your JT afew bits for your car....and the new wheels...you will like!!

Regarding the light, is it still on? Im assuming there is enough fuel in the car right. Otherwise, if the light doesnt stay on, it might be worth having the codes read...if nothing present and its driving fine...i think you should be ok

Cheers

[volvo]

oh...and the front bumper is looking sweet!

[JT's Mechanic]

Thanks :) and no the light went off as soon as I lifted off and theres about 10 gallons of fuel in it

Hadn't seen it before (but then haven't really put my foot down since starting driving it until that point) and didn't get another chance to try again for the rest of the journey to see if it would happen again

[JT]

Did you check the oil level on the flat???

the low oil level indicator is that side

[JT's Mechanic]

Good point *goes off to find a torch*

[Jim S70R]

Pretty sure they don't have an oil level warning light, sounds very much like it could of been the screen wash level light, but saying that I would double check everything for peace of mind.

[JT's Mechanic]

Oil is kind of low, but not below the minimum mark. More importantly the oil light is on the right hand side of the dash not the left

[LiamT4]

Oil is kind of low, but not below the minimum mark. More importantly the oil light is on the right hand side of the dash not the left

Make sure you top that oil up, the lower it gets the faster it uses it

[JT's Mechanic]

I'll do it tomorrow when I get to work :)

[JT]

I went out to the grarage to look at your new clocks
on the top row,far left is "low oil level" warning light????

[JT's Mechanic]

On mine its on the right hand side, I switched the ignition on (so the dash lights up) and its definately on the right, bulbs fuel and washer fluid are on the left

[JT]

as Jim said maybe its just low on screen wash??

[AndysR]

Probably just low screenwash light, top the oil back up again and top up the screenwash with water and do the same tomorrow. All the important brake and engine ones are on the right, so it can only be the screenwash level light.

[JT]

Panic over then?? lol

[JT's Mechanic]

Lol. I'm pretty sure there's plenty of screenwash in it too. Anyway, I'll have another go tomorrow and see what happens

[volvo]

question is...are you going to confess if it was the screenwash??? i wouldn't! lol

[JT's Mechanic]

Haha, we'll see

[volvo]

anyway...i hope it is that! at least then its nothing serious or costly......

good luck!

[JT]

it'll be fine

:cool:

[p fandango]

it'll be fine

:cool:
take the bulbs out, there too heavy anyway lol

[volvo]

lol...typical!

[JT]

take the bulbs out, there too heavy anyway lol

I though you were quiet! lol

just waiting for the right moment???

[p fandango]

I though you were quiet! lol

just waiting for the right moment???
its bed time, & watching Four lions

[volvo]

lol...watched that yesterday....funny!

Watching 4 brothers now!

[Jim S70R]

take the bulbs out, there too heavy anyway lol

Lol

[JT's Mechanic]

Got some new wheels on it :D

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0315.jpg

[The Flying Moose]

Jesus christ that looks stunning, I want my bumper back!!! grrr...

Just wants lowering now and hey presto your away mate. :)

[p fandango]

Got some new wheels on it :D

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0315.jpg
i was waiting for the latest update, i'm sure Johnny's got some lowering springs you can rob lol. Does look good

[JT]

got to be happy with that!!!:)

[silverswedemachine]

Yeah looks good mate...

[james]

Got some new wheels on it :D

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0315.jpg

lookin great m8 , really nice , looks like a propper r ;)

[p fandango]

lookin great m8 , really nice , looks like a propper r ;)
almost, needs the 850R rear spoiler (so hurry up & get it fitted lol)

[The Flying Moose]

almost, needs the 850R rear spoiler (so hurry up & get it fitted lol)

Not to mension an 850R Interior and of course the best finishing touch for all 850´s a Tomcat Prodictions Splitter ,)

[JT]

almost, needs the 850R rear spoiler (so hurry up & get it fitted lol)

ok,ok,
i'll paint it tomoorrow!! lol
cant put it on when its red!?:confused:

[p fandango]

ok,ok,
i'll paint it tomoorrow!! lol
cant put it on when its red!?:confused:
tomorrow, its always tomorrow. Theirs still some light get out there & get it done lol

[JT]

Not to mension an 850R Interior and of course the best finishing touch for all 850´s a Tomcat Prodictions Splitter ,)


already ordered...........:B_thumb:

thats the splitter, not the interior. lol

[The Flying Moose]

You should live in Spain Johnny, mañana he says!

Get in that huge garage of yours and do young Sam proud...

[JT]

tomorrow, its always tomorrow. Theirs still some light get out there & get it done lol

watching free practice from today, no chance!!! lol

[p fandango]

watching free practice from today, no chance!!! lol
is it on the iPlayer, & i'm very disappointed you haven't got a TV in the garage lol

[JT]

is it on the iPlayer, & i'm very disappointed you haven't got a TV in the garage lol

oh I do, tv,radio,pc, heaters...............

oh and a broken car!!:(

lol

[p fandango]

oh I do, tv,radio,pc, heaters...............

oh and a broken car!!:(

lol
spoiler to paint, car to fix yet here you are sat in front of the forum & watching the F1 lol ;)

[JT]

and u think i'm gonna start spraying black paint around a white car??? lol

anyway hows bt comin on?

finished yet?? no i didnt think so........:)

[p fandango]

anyway hows bt comin on?

finished yet?? no i didnt think so........:)
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_cuLnKaQieHM/SwVS4m6CXeI/AAAAAAAABkw/1lD0AS3SdFw/s1600/Huge_smiley_with_tongue_out.gif

[JT]

Not to mension an 850R Interior and of course the best finishing touch for all 850´s a Tomcat Prodictions Splitter ,)

what is the spec of the R interior?

full leather or half leather??
details please

[JT's Mechanic]

thanks everyone :)


Jesus christ that looks stunning, I want my bumper back!!! grrr...

Just wants lowering now and hey presto your away mate. :)

Got lowered springs, just need to find time to fit them after I've moved :)

[JT's Mechanic]

Oh and if you look back to the original photos, does anyone know what those wheels are/what they came off? cheers

[p fandango]

Got lowered springs, just need to find time to fit them after I've moved :)
if you can get Johnny from in front of the computer you'll have them fitted in no time lol

[p fandango]

Oh and if you look back to the original photos, does anyone know what those wheels are/what they came off? cheers
there off the 850 AWD & called "Persus", or nicknamed "Toss" lol

[JT's Mechanic]

Lol ok thanks, need to try and get rid of them now

[Jamest5r]

Got some new wheels on it :D

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0315.jpg

Quality :)

How you finding it compared to your corsa that was more to insure lol

Shakespeare in October?

[JT's Mechanic]

Quality :)

How you finding it compared to your corsa that was more to insure lol

Shakespeare in October?

Absolutely love it, who knew it was actually possible to gain speed whilst travelling up hills? Not me haha

And hell no. :worried:

[volvo]

Hi mate

smart set of wheels you have there....they go well on the car dont they!!

:)

[JT's Mechanic]

Yeah they look fantastic :)

[AndysR]

Got some new wheels on it :D

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0315.jpg

Looks stunning, lowered and spoilered and it'll be 110% :)

In that light it almost looks like 427 as well ;)

[JT]

looking good.........i'm not jealous:)

[Jim S70R]

Looking good

[JT's Mechanic]

Other than cleaning it (which lasted all of 5 seconds) only one other addition recently...

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0329.jpg

[M-R-P]

Lovely looking motor, all stickered-up too i see, A-1 and five stars! :)

[cameron]

A bit behind the times but lovely looking motor now :B_thumb:

[p fandango]

you not got that spoiler on yet Sam, sort it out lol ;)

[JT]

its coming Pedro! its coming! lol

ok, only with a temporary colour for now, but its better than red!!! :)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/22092011466.jpg

[JT's Mechanic]

Anyone know roughly how far my boost gauge should go if I put my foot down?

[The Flying Moose]

Around half to two thirds into the white mate.

[JT's Mechanic]

Ok cheers, it just didn't seem to be going as high as I thought, but it was getting about halfway so I guess it's about right.

Just me being paranoid as usual lol

[JT]

so you have had it how long???

and you already want more boost!!!:rice:

PMSL

[p fandango]

Ok cheers, it just didn't seem to be going as high as I thought, but it was getting about halfway so I guess it's about right.

Just me being paranoid as usual lol
T-5's are too smooth & quiet, you don't realise how fast your going till you look at the speedo (ok going from a 3sylinder, i bet you do notice the extra speed lol)

get an MBC on it & it'll feel alot quicker ;)

[JT]

Dont encourage him!!!!! LOL

god I sound like a parent........carry on:D

[p fandango]

Dont encourage him!!!!! LOL

god I sound like a parent........carry on:D
i could of suggested he robs your ECU lol

[JT]

I thought you already did??? lol

do you think an "R" ecu would improve things??

[p fandango]

I thought you already did??? lol

do you think an "R" ecu would improve things??
i'd just get a HLM remap, wouldn't bother messing with stock replacements

[JT]

fair enough:)

[JT's Mechanic]

I like all this talk of MBC's and ECU's. Might throw 16T in there aswell :D

I know what you mean pedro, even going from a 3cyl corsa.

[p fandango]

I like all this talk of MBC's and ECU's. Might throw 16T in there aswell :D
get a nice little MBC, then just straight for a 19t :firedevil lol

[JT's Mechanic]

I know it's upside down and stuff (it can only be so good when all you've got to work with is a camera phone and some electrical tape :) ) But does this seem about right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlMoJyxYrT4&feature=player_detailpage

[p fandango]

except for trying to make me dizzy i don't think its far off what it should be as standard, possibly a bit on the low side but not by much. Your better off getting an aftermarket gauge & seeing what it says, should be about 9-10psi as standard

[LiamT4]

Does seem a bit on the slow side, but i haven't been in a standard t5 for a while.
Boost doesn't seem to be to far off though.

[JT]

more than enough for starters!! lol

[M-R-P]

I gotta P2 so don't take my word for it, but it looks like short-shifting? Mine does 65/70mph in 2nd and makes much more noise.?

[JT's Mechanic]

If I rev it to 6k its at about 65mph. The camera didn't pick the noise up very well, but its not really really loud anyway

Looking at it on the way to work today I'm sure it's sitting somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 on the boost gauge. But I'm sure it's been over halfway previously :/

[M-R-P]

If I rev it to 6k its at about 65mph. The camera didn't pick the noise up very well, but its not really really loud anyway

Looking at it on the way to work today I'm sure it's sitting somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 on the boost gauge. But I'm sure it's been over halfway previously :/

If it's the Volvo boost - o - meter, then you won't go very high anyway (not very good the volvo ones)
Noise wise, I know what you mean, with a standard pipe, they're not supposed to be loud, they're an executive tourer after all. Mine's almost silent when cruising. It's when you open her up and get that lovely 5-pot roar that only a T-5 makes, coming up through the floor. Always makes me smile ;)

[JT's Mechanic]

I know what you mean sounds lovely when you want It to. But the rest of the time it's completely silent.

Ok then, guess I'll have to give a proper boost gauge a go to see if anythings up

[LiamT4]

I know what you mean sounds lovely when you want It to. But the rest of the time it's completely silent.

Ok then, guess I'll have to give a proper boost gauge a go to see if anythings up

Get that huge silencer removed (and replaced it with a small box if its the only one), so it makes some proper noise.

[AndysR]

Looks like the boost level is about right for standard. If you get yourself a remap you can enjoy and "out of the white section experience" seeing videos like this keep making me feel like filming mine. It goes a little out the white section these days ;)

[Jamest5r]

Looks like the boost level is about right for standard. If you get yourself a remap you can enjoy and "out of the white section experience" seeing videos like this keep making me feel like filming mine. It goes a little out the white section these days ;)


Just shy of 3 o'clock with the pressure your running i would guess :), i hit 1.5 bar on roller's once and it was bang on 3 o'clock with a pro boost guage :)

[AndysR]

Just shy of 3 o'clock with the pressure your running i would guess :), i hit 1.5 bar on roller's once and it was bang on 3 o'clock with a pro boost guage :)

Sure is ;)

[JT's Mechanic]

Well, I noticed oil on the driveway yesterday and sure enough when I looked underneath my car I could see the back end of the sub frame covered in it. Pulled the dip stick out and sure enough out came white smoke :(

So today I got the PTC out which wasn't necessarily blocked but was definatly full of crap so I cleaned that out and put it all back together.

I also changed the hoses from the turbo control valve thingy as they all looked pretty knackered and I already had half the stuff around it out of the car, and the air filter as that didn't look too clever either.

Anyway, took it out for a bit and came back and there's still smoke coming out of the dipstick so I definately need to do the PVC, which I kind of knew anyway as I found the plastic pipe that goes from the top of the oil catch tank thing round to the top of the PTC was snapped in the middle under the foam outer layer anyway.

If I keep driving this to and from work until I've done the PVC am I going to do a lot of damage or will it be alright for a few days?

Sam

[p fandango]

Anyway, took it out for a bit and came back and there's still smoke coming out of the dipstick so I definately need to do the PVC, which I kind of knew anyway as I found the plastic pipe that goes from the top of the oil catch tank thing round to the top of the PTC was snapped in the middle under the foam outer layer anyway.

If I keep driving this to and from work until I've done the PVC am I going to do a lot of damage or will it be alright for a few days?
you could blow the RMS (rear main seal) if its blocked too bad, which is a gearbox off job & as you know that aint fun. If you can get away with not driving it then i'd leave it until you change th PCV

[JT's Mechanic]

Bugger

[p fandango]

Bugger
it could be ok, but it could go

[Murphy]

Looks like the boost level is about right for standard. If you get yourself a remap you can enjoy and "out of the white section experience"

Which is a great experience

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/Andyvrs/copy.png

[Niles]

nice car young man. Go easy in it. For sure lower it a little. I'd take a look at the turbo's actuator, boost seems a little low to me. Tighten the actuators arm 3 or 4 turns, should tweek the turbo.

[Niles]

when you lowered it you can park it next to mine. lol...
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b91/camelbeanie/Rnice1.jpg

[JT's Mechanic]

I forgot to say we fitted an R suspension at the weekend, which has lowered it a little

Also got a proper clean :) (couldn't get a good picture though it was too dark)

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0334.jpg

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0337.jpg

[Jamest5r]

Well, I noticed oil on the driveway yesterday and sure enough when I looked underneath my car I could see the back end of the sub frame covered in it. Pulled the dip stick out and sure enough out came white smoke :(

So today I got the PTC out which wasn't necessarily blocked but was definatly full of crap so I cleaned that out and put it all back together.

I also changed the hoses from the turbo control valve thingy as they all looked pretty knackered and I already had half the stuff around it out of the car, and the air filter as that didn't look too clever either.

Anyway, took it out for a bit and came back and there's still smoke coming out of the dipstick so I definately need to do the PVC, which I kind of knew anyway as I found the plastic pipe that goes from the top of the oil catch tank thing round to the top of the PTC was snapped in the middle under the foam outer layer anyway.

If I keep driving this to and from work until I've done the PVC am I going to do a lot of damage or will it be alright for a few days?

Sam
Just pull the PCB pipe off so its venting to air that will buy you time till you can do the pcvu

[JT's Mechanic]

PCB pipe?

[p fandango]

PCB pipe?
the thicker one going to the PTC from the PCV , into the air inlet pipe

[JT's Mechanic]

Ok, will that help if the block is at the other end of it though? where the oil trap thing is under the manifold?

[The Flying Moose]

As james says Sam, unplug the main (large) pipe which connects to the PTC nipple and vent the system to the floor.

It will be ok to drive either way, however best changed as soon as economically viable.

[JT's Mechanic]

Ok thanks for that, will take a trip to Volvo tomorrow hopefully

[AndysR]

I forgot to say we fitted an R suspension at the weekend, which has lowered it a little

Also got a proper clean :) (couldn't get a good picture though it was too dark)

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0334.jpg

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0337.jpg

Looking really smart, you taking it to Shakespeare on Sunday?

[JT]

Looking really smart, you taking it to Shakespeare on Sunday?

I dont think he will go near there, ever again! :(

[AndysR]

I dont think he will go near there, ever again! :(

He doesn't have to compete ;)

[LiamT4]

He doesn't have to compete ;)

Are you going andy?

[AndysR]

Are you going andy?

Yes but probably only as a passenger with my brother.

[JT's Mechanic]

Well I picked up all my PCV bits from Volvo today, so hopefully that will all get sorted this weekend.

[JT's Mechanic]

Right, next question. Was on my way back from giving a lift when a rather noticeable knocking noise at the back developed over a bumpy bit of road. First instinct was the exhaust but when I got back I tried moving it around etc and it all seemed pretty solid.

Then I checked the nuts at the top and bottom of the suspension as me and john just changed it, one was loose which I tightened and went out again but that didnt stop the noise. The rest were all tight.

Can anyone think of anything else I need to check before I go to work tomorrow morning?

[M-R-P]

Did you check the threads on the one you tightened? it may be slipping. I fix machinery for a living and see this sort of thing a lot, you tighten something till you think it'll stay put then a jolt is enough to pop it. worth a look.

[JT's Mechanic]

No I was kinda doing it all in the dark lol, will take a look tomorrow. Cheers

[M-R-P]

No I was kinda doing it all in the dark lol, will take a look tomorrow. Cheers

No promises bud, but worth a look. Otherwise, bushes?

[p fandango]

Then I checked the nuts at the top and bottom of the suspension as me and john just changed it, one was loose
mate even i know to do any work yourself especially if Johnny offers, & i've never even seen him actually doing anything lol ;)

[JT]

mate even i know to do any work yourself especially if Johnny offers, & i've never even seen him actually doing anything lol ;)

says the man who got Volvo to fit his turbo for him!!!:haha:

[p fandango]

says the man who got Volvo to fit his turbo for him!!!:haha:
at least its stayed done up ;) lol

[JT]

up and down the drive!!

I should hope so!! pmsl

[JT's Mechanic]

Well I got the PCV sorted this weekend so hopefully it will stop leaking oil.

Me and john eventually managed to get rid of the knocking noise I had too :)

[p fandango]

Me and john eventually managed to get rid of the knocking noise I had too :)
was it the Corsa rolling round in the boot? lol. Glad everythings getting sorted

[JT's Mechanic]

Lol, wouldn't even notice the corsa in the back of one of these no matter how much it rolled around lol. It seems as though the spring wasn't sitting properly at the bottom, so after john noticed that we moved it around a bit before tightening it and that seems to have solved it.

A couple of people have mentioned adjusting the actuator slightly ;), presumably that means turning it clockwise to shorten the shaft of the actuator? This is of course if I manage to get the damn heat shield out of the way

[p fandango]

A couple of people have mentioned adjusting the actuator slightly ;), presumably that means turning it clockwise to shorten the shaft of the actuator? This is of course if I manage to get the damn heat shield out of the way
from the video yours looked to be boosting ok so i wouldn't touch it, get a decent boost gauge & a MBC

[JT's Mechanic]

Ok fair enough. When did you turn into mr sensible? lol

[p fandango]

Ok fair enough. When did you turn into mr sensible? lol
i do when i'm tired lol, although i've got an uprated actuator i've never been one for messing with it

[JT's Mechanic]

So what do I look for when it comes to an MBC then?

[M-R-P]

I'd suggest a gated one ie. has a spring/ball valve which delays and restricts flow to the w/g actuator rather than a bleed valve which allows metered air to disappear from the system. Just my personal preference, I'm sure this subject will stir up some opinions ;)

[LiamT4]

Forge unos.

[JT's Mechanic]

Fitted one of Tomcats splitters the other day (or John did I should say), looks fantastic :)

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0385.jpg

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0386.jpg

And the more eagle-eyed of you (pedro) will notice the electric aerial was also removed and replaced with something a bit less obvious lol

[p fandango]

looking good Sam, needs the R spoiler & eyebrows now. Must say your a brave man............................................... .................................................. ............for letting Johnny do the work, i remember watching him do the repairs at Coombe, or stand round with his hands in his pockets while you & the spectactors did the work lol

[JT's Mechanic]

Lol it may look like I do the work but he comes along and fixes it once i'm done lol. He's done more to my car than I have...

And eyebrows??

[Tomcat]

Presume he means headlight eyebrows.

[JT's Mechanic]

That's sort of what I thought, not something I had planned on doing though. Not convinced they would look that good lol

[p fandango]

Lol it may look like I do the work but he comes along and fixes it once i'm done lol. He's done more to my car than I have...
Sam i know he's got lots of bits spare that'll fit on your car, but i think it was a bit nasty of him to force you to say that lol

[JT's Mechanic]

:lol:

[JT]

looking good Sam, needs the R spoiler & eyebrows now. Must say your a brave man............................................... .................................................. ............for letting Johnny do the work, i remember watching him do the repairs at Coombe, or stand round with his hands in his pockets while you & the spectactors did the work lol

ok if your gonna mock me..........at least get the event right!! lol

your chatting about Oulton,when Sam did the recovery work and you pulled the bumper off, to get me out for race 2!

thanks for that! lol

lol
Sam, my offer still stands........i'll have it!
looks fantanstic!!! :)

have you scratched that splitter yet??

[p fandango]

ok if your gonna mock me..........at least get the event right!! lol

your chatting about Oulton,when Sam did the recovery work and you pulled the bumper off, to get me out for race 2!

thanks for that! lol
Oulton Coombe same thing lol ;)

[Jim S70R]

Thats coming along nicely, is a real credit to you.

[JT's Mechanic]

have you scratched that splitter yet??

Not a mark on it, avoiding speed bumps like the plague lol

[p fandango]

Not a mark on it, avoiding speed bumps like the plague lol
you should be alright on speed bumps, my ugly bumper never rubbed. Its the kerbs you have to watch when parking head on

[volvo]

must say...the car is looking very smart indeed!

[JT's Mechanic]

Stole Johns air filter today because I like the sound of it :biggrin:

Video doesn't highlight it very well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Mi1D1qOjE&feature=player_detailpage

[AndysR]

Fitted one of Tomcats splitters the other day (or John did I should say), looks fantastic :)

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0385.jpg

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0386.jpg

And the more eagle-eyed of you (pedro) will notice the electric aerial was also removed and replaced with something a bit less obvious lol

Stunning! Keep up the good work :)

[Niles]

lol. Andy, you only say its stunning because it looks very VERY similar to yours. Anyone else would say its a very lovely car (and that includes me).
JT's mech, are people allowed to touch your car without velvet gloves? lol

[AndysR]

Fitted one of Tomcats splitters the other day (or John did I should say), looks fantastic :)

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0385.jpg

http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0386.jpg

And the more eagle-eyed of you (pedro) will notice the electric aerial was also removed and replaced with something a bit less obvious lol


lol. Andy, you only say its stunning because it looks very VERY similar to yours. Anyone else would say its a very lovely car (and that includes me).
JT's mech, are people allowed to touch your car without velvet gloves? lol

Niles, I don't know what you mean.. Mine has headlight covers and rear mudflaps not to mention the fact mines an N reg... pmsl.

[JT's Mechanic]

Not updated this for a while (had to go to page 8 to find this thread :smirk:)

But I robbed johns standard RIP kit today as he's redoing it with silicone hoses etc... and fitted an air filter of my own so he can have his back

Love the noise of the cone filter :smile:
http://i1213.photobucket.com/albums/cc477/Samjm850/IMG_0409.jpg?t=1326667203

Didn't realise the picture was so crap until I got it on my PC though...

[JT's Mechanic]

JT's mech, are people allowed to touch your car without velvet gloves? lol

Only just spotted this so it's a tad late, nobodys allowed to touch my car full stop lol

I'm the guy you see parked in the corner of a supermarket about 100m away from all the other cars :/ lol

[The Flying Moose]

Engine bay is looking lovely and clean Sam, a familiar strut brace I see there too!

So the BIG question, how did you find the RIP kit?

[JT's Mechanic]

I really like it. It seems to respond alot quicker when I put my foot down and the takes less time for the turbo to get going :)

[M-R-P]

fitted an air filter of my own so he can have his back

Love the noise of the cone filter :smile:



Nice to see an update :) Bay looks tidy and the new filter looks good. I do enjoy the noise from the cone although Mrs. MRP says it sounds "Broken" (hence the quote on my sig).

[JT]

I really like it. It seems to respond alot quicker when I put my foot down and the takes less time for the turbo to get going :)

and thats a standard RIP kit,maybe you should try an uprated one at some point???
pedro says you should have my new one???:hilarious


Nice to see an update :) Bay looks tidy and the new filter looks good. I do enjoy the noise from the cone although Mrs. MRP says it sounds "Broken" (hence the quote on my sig).

Quality!:)

[JT's Mechanic]

and thats a standard RIP kit,maybe you should try an uprated one at some point???
pedro says you should have my new one???:hilarious

Well if you're offering, want to throw in the 19t and TT too? :biggrin:

[AndysR]

The more I look at it the neater I feel the original intake piping seems. I still don't get the whole feels like a different car scenario but I would imagine a difference is noticeable in certain applications/conditions.

Still love the car btw ;)

[merc85]

The more I look at it the neater I feel the original intake piping seems. I still don't get the whole feels like a different car scenario but I would imagine a difference is noticeable in certain applications/conditions.

Still love the car btw ;)

Andy seriously, why dont you try the R,I,P on your's Buddy.

I promise you, YOU will feel the the turbo spool up much quicker and easier.

Try mine if you like, Just as a Comparison of course. Id never go back to normal piping have done and certainly didn't like it.

[AndysR]

Andy seriously, why dont you try the R,I,P on your's Buddy.

I promise you, YOU will feel the the turbo spool up much quicker and easier.

Try mine if you like, Just as a Comparison of course. Id never go back to normal piping have done and certainly didn't like it.

I could do, just need to be careful with the boosting characteristics of the turbo don't want to affect that too much. Plus which not having all these secondary mod's gives me an excuse to use when you acheive your 14.5 1/4 ;)

[merc85]

I could do, just need to be careful with the boosting characteristics of the turbo don't want to affect that too much. Plus which not having all these secondary mod's gives me an excuse to use when you acheive your 14.5 1/4 ;)

You could be right, Perhaps Your Bespoke mapping does a similar job to my Mechanical secondary Mods?

Adding the Rip may well cause a strainge effect to your Map, but surly it would go back to normal once it was removed?

I noticed for intance jut removing the cat increased boost pressure by 1 - 1.5psi.

This is the route i'm going down with the 18t v soon, Probably before she's rollin roaded Next wk

[AndysR]

You could be right, Perhaps Your Bespoke mapping does a similar job to my Mechanical secondary Mods?

Adding the Rip may well cause a strainge effect to your Map, but surly it would go back to normal once it was removed?

I noticed for intance jut removing the cat increased boost pressure by 1 - 1.5psi.

This is the route i'm going down with the 18t v soon, Probably before she's rollin roaded Next wk

If I was to do a RIP kit I'd have the car remapped at the same time, but to make the most of it I'd have an aftermarket intercooler at the same time ;)

De-catting before the RR session.. Your just worried about your chances against Rotch aren't you... ;)

[merc85]

If I was to do a RIP kit I'd have the car remapped at the same time, but to make the most of it I'd have an aftermarket intercooler at the same time ;)

De-catting before the RR session.. Your just worried about your chances against Rotch aren't you... ;)

No, just mising the Poping and banging on the up change lol, and of course as i started of my Motortrade carear in Exhaust's i know that a de cated car especially turbo can add extra ponies lol

[AndysR]

No, just mising the Poping and banging on the up change lol

Keep the cat for soon you can rely on the gearbox for popping and banging on the up change ;) :jaw:

[merc85]

Keep the cat for soon you can rely on the gearbox for popping and banging on the up change ;) :jaw:

Excuse number 2 lol

[AndysR]

Excuse number 2 lol

PMSL!! I can't wait to hear no. 3...

[merc85]

PMSL!! I can't wait to hear no. 3...

I must remeber to wax the car before the race, As not doing so my well cause excess drag on the body by even 100ths of a second !

[Kingsford G]

I must remeber to wax the car before the race, As not doing so my well cause excess drag on the body by even 100ths of a second !

That front grill is heavy by theway u was better off with that black one I got offya))

[merc85]

That front grill is heavy by theway u was better off with that black one I got offya))

Even weight distribution, more weight over the front wheels = better traction, Power is NOTHING without control LOL

[M-R-P]

Ok, just topped-up the popcorn, carry on :)

[Kingsford G]

Even weight distribution, more weight over the front wheels = better traction, Power is NOTHING without control LOL

That brings a new mod to my mind.U should sit in the middle while doing a 1/4m lol she`ll stick to the road like nothing else lol

[p fandango]

and thats a standard RIP kit,maybe you should try an uprated one at some point???
pedro says you should have my new one???:hilarious
go on, don't be a lazy sod & try it. I'm curious to see how the 3 different pipeworks compare

[p fandango]

I still don't get the whole feels like a different car scenario but I would imagine a difference is noticeable in certain applications/conditions.
compare the 2 in the diagram, the RIP kit is alot straighter & believe 2foot shorter. You don't think thats going to help the air flow faster?

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/449/airflowf.jpg

[JT]

go on, don't be a lazy sod & try it. I'm curious to see how the 3 different pipeworks compare

"lazy sod!" ??

Kettle n black!!! Lol

Maybe if my weekend is free, I MIGHT have a look:)
Would need a rolling road, to be a proper test.

[p fandango]

"lazy sod!" ??

Kettle n black!!! Lol

Maybe if my weekend is free, I MIGHT have a look:)
Would need a rolling road, to be a proper test.
you don't know hard it is to skive & look busy lol, & since when have you bother about doing things "properly" lol

[JT]

I see we are making good use of the swear filter again!! Lol