Remap suggestion

[yorkiet52]

Hello
Can anyone recommend a tunning company to get my t5 remapped?
I live in york so the closer the better . I dont want to go over the top with it. I spoke to motorscope and they do superchips zt 400 quid. Seemed a bit steep

[dps1973]

hlm, highly recomended. Ive used him on 2 occasions. Great chap. Number 01527 577710 Hamish £150 Bargain

[james]

i took mine to HLM at bromsgrove and i live at sheffield which was a bit of a drive and would be even further for you but would still works out cheaper than £400 quid. my remap cost me £150 and £40 for the rolling road tuning and i think i used half a tank getting there and back (nearly three years ago) well worth it.i would check your pcv pipes before you choose this as mine were badly corroded and only noticed them a few days before going and quickly got them changed (cheers t5 pete)

[yorkiet52]

Sounds good, anything closer to home?

[dps1973]

You can post your ecu as i did and he returns a maped one for you.Very quick turnaround, but as said by james check your pipe's first. Mine was sent on the monday returned wednesday. :wink:

[dps1973]

Pm'd

[james]

i don't know mate sorry , i was dubious about driving all that way and even had thoughts of something going wrong and being stuck down there but everything was fine , i had a few running problems a few weeks after and i rang HLM and they diagnosed the problem straight away over the phone(idle control valve)

[james]

also check ur pcv pipe that runs out of the left hand corner of the inlet manifold down near the power steering pump as i had re routed my pipe round engine bay because of a broken elbow and the joinin pipe had snapped and i hadnt connect it good enough (but it looked secure) for two years almost i had the lambda light on the dash and car was poor on fuel consumption .its amazing what a little pipe fitted badly can do

[t5_monkey]

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?p=391069#post391069

have a read of this thread - it may be of interest to you before you decide where to go!

[yorkiet52]

Thanks for all they suggestions guys, will have a check of thoughs pipes and give hlm a call. The car runs great at the min, will pop some pics up if I get chance. Is it all them small pipes I should check?

[dps1973]

Thanks for all they suggestions guys, will have a check of thoughs pipes and give hlm a call. The car runs great at the min, will pop some pics up if I get chance. Is it all them small pipes I should check?

correct, check your pcv too

[yorkiet52]

Whats the pcv ? sorry for my ignorance

[james]

positive crankcase ventilation , do a search of it , or sumbody else will be along very soon

p.s i thought my car was running fine till we found a load of the pcv pipes were coroded to hell ;)

[Tomcat]

Pull the dipstick out while the engines running, if you get smoke coming out the dipstick tube then the PCV needs replacing/cleaning out.

[crezzy2k1]

When i bought my 850R it only had 70,000 miles on it the PCV system was completely gone, all the ports were totally blocked. It makes sense to me to change it if you don't know the history of the car, if its smoking from the dipstick i would change it straight away there is a fantastic write up over on MVS. I changed mine and it was a really simple job parts cost about £80 from Rufe over at FRF (see traders)
I haven't remapped mine yet as i keep changing my plans but HLM seems the cheapest but i don't know if the map he supplies allows for more upgrades (maybe someone can shed some more light on this?) or you can go down the custom route but thats gonna be expensive!

[p fandango]

i don't know if the map he supplies allows for more upgrades (maybe someone can shed some more light on this?) or you can go down the custom route but thats gonna be expensive!
they used to have files for the common combination of mods (19t, greens etc), not sure if they do custom mapping anymore

[deathrider311271]

all im going to say is u pay for what u get, u pay cheap u get rubbish, u spend proper money on a remap u get good results

[p fandango]

all im going to say is u pay for what u get, u pay cheap u get rubbish, u spend proper money on a remap u get good results
you say that, but the HLM remap is 1/3 of the price of others yet involves more work (ie soldering the eprom). All stage 1 generic maps have been written years ago & just a case of copying to the ecu

[Alan M]

http://ardideas.com/volvo.html

Tuning now can be done via the OBD port in later 850 models for both motronic 4.3 and 4.4 through x70 series models also.

[T5frankie]

you say that, but the HLM remap is 1/3 of the price of others yet involves more work (ie soldering the eprom). All stage 1 generic maps have been written years ago & just a case of copying to the ecu

only if he hasnt got an ecu to swap thats been chipped

[deathrider311271]

you say that, but the HLM remap is 1/3 of the price of others yet involves more work (ie soldering the eprom). All stage 1 generic maps have been written years ago & just a case of copying to the ecu

thats your opinion, i personally dont want my ECU taking out being messed around with when there is a much better way to do it on the later cars, the way HLM do it is old skool. Now a days there is no need to change the chip when it is writable already, wouldnt touch one with my worst enemies car and yes this is from personal experience

[si850r]

I had my remap from hlm about 3 weeks ago now and I am entirely satisfied by it...

Forget all the myths flying around on here tdd5 etc...
The remap maybe be cheaper than others, for that reason I could not tell you and to be quite honest I dont care. All I know is that I took my car to hlm got treated very nicely by Nat in a professional manner and, touch wood nothing has gone wrong with my car. It is boosting hard , holding a constant boost and is better on fuel consumption now, so in my eyes its a win win situation...


To put it in a nut shell......dont believe the hype...:wiggle:

[T5frankie]

I had my remap from hlm about 3 weeks ago now and I am entirely satisfied by it...

Forget all the myths flying around on here tdd5 etc...
The remap maybe be cheaper than others, for that reason I could not tell you and to be quite honest I dont care. All I know is that I took my car to hlm got treated very nicely by Nat in a professional manner and, touch wood nothing has gone wrong with my car. It is boosting hard , holding a constant boost and is better on fuel consumption now, so in my eyes its a win win situation...


To put it in a nut shell......dont believe the hype...:wiggle:

its cheaper because he just solders in a new chip from maps that are already on file from previous cars that were re-mapped

[yorkiet52]

Did the dip stick test and it's smoking, guess i need to do that first. Had a look on mvs seems a bit of a daunting job. Should it run better when this is done ?

[p fandango]

thats your opinion, i personally dont want my ECU taking out being messed around with when there is a much better way to do it on the later cars, the way HLM do it is old skool. Now a days there is no need to change the chip when it is writable already, wouldnt touch one with my worst enemies car and yes this is from personal experience
can't see whether it being old skool, new skool or anything in between makes a difference, the results are exactly the same. And i hate to disappoint you but you'll find Volvo soldered your chips into the ECU lol

[Santa]

can't see whether it being old skool, new skool or anything in between makes a difference, the results are exactly the same. And i hate to disappoint you but you'll find Volvo soldered your chips into the ECU lol

Well it was probably who ever they subcontracted the manufacture of the part before

[JelT5]

Did the dip stick test and it's smoking, guess i need to do that first. Had a look on mvs seems a bit of a daunting job. Should it run better when this is done ?

It's not that bad a job mate, just take your time! Make sure you've got a 10mm ratchet spanner and plenty of UJs for your 10mm socket when it comes to taking the inlet manifold off!
It's certainly not going to hurt the car's running capabilities and will save you having to change the rear main oil seal.

[The Flying Moose]

thats your opinion, i personally dont want my ECU taking out being messed around with when there is a much better way to do it on the later cars, the way HLM do it is old skool. Now a days there is no need to change the chip when it is writable already, wouldnt touch one with my worst enemies car and yes this is from personal experience

The way I look at any Remap or chip is like this. If you are happy with the way the cars runs, it runs well, it feels good, it fuels correctly and the AFR's are within a safe range (ie focused more at being slightly rich than running the chance of being lean) then what is the problem?

[crezzy2k1]

Did the dip stick test and it's smoking, guess i need to do that first. Had a look on mvs seems a bit of a daunting job. Should it run better when this is done ?

its easy mate just me i was daunted at first but it turns out not to be so bad!

[Nathlm]

its cheaper because he just solders in a new chip from maps that are already on file from previous cars that were re-mapped

Yes and so do most other tuners but charge a hell of lot more than we do. Also if we were ODB 2 tuning 850 the prices would have to go up to cover the cost of extra equipment - hence the reason our software upgrade for the newer volvos are £350 - £450 because the diagnostic and tuning equipment costs £1000s, then there is annual subscriptions etc etc.

The cost of investments we have to make into technology to stay in the game would make your eyes water!

Nat

[yorkiet52]

That's a good point, i agree most new school tuning is more expensive, and if the result is the same who cares !

[T5frankie]

New school or old surely when the results are the same it comes down to price I would rather pay 150 quid than 3 times as much, it ain't rocket science

[Wobbly Dave]

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?p=391069#post391069

have a read of this thread - it may be of interest to you before you decide where to go!
Yes but Monkey man - HLM Stage 1 remap - which is what the guy wants is great VFM.

Casting wild aspertions based on conjected opinions is to my mind a little presumptuous. IMHO so long as you use the same dyno everytime then I don't see the problem.

[saffronman]

I have to say that I'm a complete novice with Volvo's and I also have been thinking about getting a remap and I read all the Volvo forums in my search for knowledge of these great cars but after reading all the comments I think I'm more confused than ever as what I should go for. Regarding the hlm one, if that is ripped off, what is it ripped from? A Rica or a custom tune, something off ebay?.
The mte one seems to be very usable power all across the rev range and doesn't tail off at the top end
But is twice the cost and if I'm not getting anything different why pay the extra.
I dunno decisions decisions

[p fandango]

I have to say that I'm a complete novice with Volvo's and I also have been thinking about getting a remap and I read all the Volvo forums in my search for knowledge of these great cars but after reading all the comments I think I'm more confused than ever as what I should go for. Regarding the hlm one, if that is ripped off, what is it ripped from? A Rica or a custom tune, something off ebay?.
The mte one seems to be very usable power all across the rev range and doesn't tail off at the top end
But is twice the cost and if I'm not getting anything different why pay the extra.
I dunno decisions decisions
your best bet is get to a meet & have ago in some cars with the different maps on. Personally i love the aggressiveness of an MBC which no remap can touch lol

[saffronman]

i agree p.
i have been out in flatout phil's beautiful red 850r, i think that has a rica map and i really loved that and how aggressive it was but phil's is a manual and mine an auto.
so im hoping to go along to a meet and get a go in a remapped auto.

[AndysR]

i agree p.
i have been out in flatout phil's beautiful red 850r, i think that has a rica map and i really loved that and how aggressive it was but phil's is a manual and mine an auto.
so im hoping to go along to a meet and get a go in a remapped auto.

Mine's an auto, if you can come along to one of the Essex meets I'll take you for a run up the road in mine, either that or you can go up the road with my brother in his S70R which is auto with a Rica :)

[Wobbly Dave]

I have to say that I'm a complete novice with Volvo's and I also have been thinking about getting a remap and I read all the Volvo forums in my search for knowledge of these great cars but after reading all the comments I think I'm more confused than ever as what I should go for. Regarding the hlm one, if that is ripped off, what is it ripped from? A Rica or a custom tune, something off ebay?.
The mte one seems to be very usable power all across the rev range and doesn't tail off at the top end
But is twice the cost and if I'm not getting anything different why pay the extra.
I dunno decisions decisions
HLM stage 1 remaps are not ripped off from anyone, despite what you may have read. Having discussed this with Hamish on many occasions the rights to supply them are not up for debate to be honest. I am not going into a long diatribe about it, Hamish is well within his own rights to sell what he sells, just that certain unsubstantiated conclusions have been asserted, on a number of forums, including this one. HLM remaps at 150 quid for what is supplied is a bargain & a good product. If you want more details then I suggest to speak to him yourself.

[viggen]

I have used HLM on three ocassions, all Maps have been great, the advice is good and recently i recomended him to two friends Sam T55VOL map and suspension lowered, and today a very nice Focus ST as we speak is being sorted.
We havent always seen eye to eye but his work has allways been first class

Keep up the good Work

Rob G

[saffronman]

dave,
as im pretty new to volvo, im trying learn as much as i can regarding my v70 and to be fair ive read a lot of negative stuff regard hlm across the forums, aswell as other volvo tuning companies to be fair and not too many praising any of them so it kind of puts you off.
im just trying to get a better understanding from people who have been there and done it as i dont want to weight out for something and it bugger my car up.
so if the hlm remap is behaves the same as the rica one then that is probably the one for me as i prefer my cars to have good acceleration, coz thats where the fun is to me.
seems to be a lot of conflictions with certain folks regarding this subject and it has been a little confusing for someone finding their feet having to read through all the BS name calling.
unsubstantiated seems to be right as no one has mentioned from where.
i think i'll give them a call as you suggest.

[Nathlm]

dave,
as im pretty new to volvo, im trying learn as much as i can regarding my v70 and to be fair ive read a lot of negative stuff regard hlm across the forums, aswell as other volvo tuning companies to be fair and not too many praising any of them so it kind of puts you off.
im just trying to get a better understanding from people who have been there and done it as i dont want to weight out for something and it bugger my car up.
so if the hlm remap is behaves the same as the rica one then that is probably the one for me as i prefer my cars to have good acceleration, coz thats where the fun is to me.
seems to be a lot of conflictions with certain folks regarding this subject and it has been a little confusing for someone finding their feet having to read through all the BS name calling.
unsubstantiated seems to be right as no one has mentioned from where.
i think i'll give them a call as you suggest.

Hey Hun, I hope our conversation has put your mind at rest and you know you can always call for advice when ever you need it (as long as you don't mind taking it from a female lol).

Nat x

[saffronman]

Nat,
I just wanted to thank you for the advice and for explaining a few things and sparing the time to listening to me waffle on.