Off the shelf Tubular manifold

[Transient]

Well all I am back after a long perion away. I have been busy with a few projects over the last few years. I will try and update you all as the ones that are appropraite are finished.

Whilst I have been away I have come across a guy in the states that some of you may of heard of called Mark Blaha (used to work for Mahle Power Train) now running his own engine building operation and he has been developing various things for Volvo engines. He is currently working on the 3R Racing Volvo team engines. He has some products that he is getting ready for the public market and I will keep you all up to date on too. Group buys will be possible.

One thing I have found though is a tubular manifold that is getting awsome flow rates and is not expensive in comparison to stuff here. The guy that builds them in the USA is willing to do discounts for group buys here in the UK if anyone is interested.

I will be getting one so please shout if you want info.

T

[Alan M]

Long time. hows the car? Did you sell it in the end or keep it? I'd be interested in a manifold.

[siamblue]

I would be interested as well if not too exhuberent..

Gary.

[cherry1809]

I would be interested as well if not too exhuberent..

Gary.

Ditto. :)

[Transient]

at the moment I think they will be about £500 all in

[Transient]

Long time. hows the car? Did you sell it in the end or keep it? I'd be interested in a manifold.

Sold it and then ended up getting it back as the guy that bought it owed me money for something else

I have done some more mods but wont go into that now.

I am looking into the possibility of modding a R34 GTR skyline running gear to fit straight onto an 850 with a slight tunnel mod. that will be next year though.

[tattoo101]

Sold it and then ended up getting it back as the guy that bought it owed me money for something else

I have done some more mods but wont go into that now.

I am looking into the possibility of modding a R34 GTR skyline running gear to fit straight onto an 850 with a slight tunnel mod. that will be next year though.

oooo this sounds interesting hehe

[spesh]

I'm defo interested, need one for my 960 t5 conversion

[cherry1809]

at the moment I think they will be about £500 all in

Not bad considering the work involved! You should see the prices of some of the Jap stuff!

[Tomcat]

I'm defo interested, need one for my 960 t5 conversion

What the hell for?, if your converting a 960 then you've got loads of room to get a decent one built, there's no space considerations on the 960.

[cherry1809]

I am looking into the possibility of modding a R34 GTR skyline running gear to fit straight onto an 850 with a slight tunnel mod. that will be next year though.

Baited breath and all that :)
If Simon Norris can cram a Skyline box in his Evo, I'm sure there's plenty of room in a Volvo.

[p fandango]

Baited breath and all that :)
If Simon Norris can cram a Skyline box in his Evo, I'm sure there's plenty of room in a Volvo.
mate of mines fitted a Skyline gearbox/transferbox into his Escort Cossie, braver than me to cut out the transmission tunnel like he did

[cherry1809]

mate of mines fitted a Skyline gearbox/transferbox into his Escort Cossie, braver than me to cut out the transmission tunnel like he did

:cool:

[Wobbly Dave]

Only question is - does it fit RHD - with the brake servo and all that in the way? Any bulk head mod required?

I'd be interested - definitely.

[Alan M]

Thats a great price. I would need dimensions and many pictures of the item fitted as my turbo is very large in physical size so I would need to make sure it fit properly and without intererance.

[spesh]

Tomcat, because the turbo sits to close to the steering column downnpipe would be to tight

[Wobbly Dave]

Has there been any emperical gains showed (before & after) compared with my stock ME7. I have been guilty in the past of modifying for modifying's sake - so want to be certain it would be worth the investment - both in time & money.

Is the ME7 manifold restrictive in comparison basically?

[Alan M]

Yes there are many threads in magazines and on the net should you wish to have a look regarding just a change in manifold which shows immediate gains in power and reduction in EGT's. Tubular manifolds are used for a reason over cast manifolds when seeking more power and it is not purely for the look.

[Transient]

Thats a great price. I would need dimensions and many pictures of the item fitted as my turbo is very large in physical size so I would need to make sure it fit properly and without intererance.
I think my turbo will be about the same and it has been designed to cope with mine (holset HX40) or (Precision Turbo T3 split PT6765 CEA custom modified (by the way I am now the contact for Precision Turbo in the UK)

This post was to find people for the manifold and not the transmision as it will not be ready for a while and will not be cheap either as it is all new parts from Japan.

Please keep posts to interests in the manifold.

[Transient]

What the hell for?, if your converting a 960 then you've got loads of room to get a decent one built, there's no space considerations on the 960.

I am not sure how you can assume that this is not a decent unit? I haven't even mentioned who is building them or their experience. Let's just say he works with high power race engines and knows what he is doing. they will flow 1000 bhp+ and are properly tuned for pulse etc. Thick wall so it can cope with the weight of a big turbo without having to think about supporting brackets for the turbo on the engine.

[Transient]

Has there been any emperical gains showed (before & after) compared with my stock ME7. I have been guilty in the past of modifying for modifying's sake - so want to be certain it would be worth the investment - both in time & money.

Is the ME7 manifold restrictive in comparison basically?

The ME7 manifold is good for up to 320bhp without creating too much back preasure. It has very narrow passages that over the power will cause a lot of problems with exhaust gasses being blocked up in the passages and the valve chamber. Also it does not have smoothe flow paterns which just compounds the problem.

[Tomcat]

I am not sure how you can assume that this is not a decent unit? I haven't even mentioned who is building them or their experience. Let's just say he works with high power race engines and knows what he is doing. they will flow 1000 bhp+ and are properly tuned for pulse etc. Thick wall so it can cope with the weight of a big turbo without having to think about supporting brackets for the turbo on the engine.

Not for a minute was I questioning the quality, but what you have to put up with on an 850 due to space constrictions you don't have to on the 960 because there's a hell of a lot more room (bar the steering column) to play with. Appologies if you thought otherwise.

[Jamest5r]

The ME7 manifold is good for up to 320bhp without creating too much back preasure. It has very narrow passages that over the power will cause a lot of problems with exhaust gasses being blocked up in the passages and the valve chamber. Also it does not have smoothe flow paterns which just compounds the problem.

Do you know off the top of your head by any chance what the s60r mani is good upto without causing problems?
I would love a tubular mani but just cant afford it at the mo but ill wait and see what the "group buy" price is and be extra nice to the Mrs :)

Cheers

[leet5r]

seen a few woth 400plus m8 , jcviggen , tim and elliot run theses iirc

[Transient]

Only question is - does it fit RHD - with the brake servo and all that in the way? Any bulk head mod required?

I'd be interested - definitely. Yes it will and no you won't ......

[Transient]

Do you know off the top of your head by any chance what the s60r mani is good upto without causing problems?
I would love a tubular mani but just cant afford it at the mo but ill wait and see what the "group buy" price is and be extra nice to the Mrs :)

Cheers

If it is ported and polished well you can reliably get 500 from it. 600 and you start having to fight fires.

[Transient]

Not for a minute was I questioning the quality, but what you have to put up with on an 850 due to space constrictions you don't have to on the 960 because there's a hell of a lot more room (bar the steering column) to play with. Appologies if you thought otherwise.

That's cool, there is a lot to be said for a manifold that's runners are'nt too long.

That is the reason that serious drag cars vent so fast. the longer the runners the more the gas cools and less volume to spool the turbo. Too short and too hot. The manifold is being designed with power in mind on moded engines. Any flange can be added on request so people who want to keep the T2.5 can. and can be internal or external W/Gate

[Wobbly Dave]

is this thread dead now?

[Alan M]

No. I think Tim had some mismatched flow between/through the manifold runners so was having them altered for accurate/balanced flow results. This will be an excellent upgrade especially for the price. I would have definately had one but until I'm abroad now I don't know for sure which direction I will be going with regards to cars.