Clutch.

[mitchyboy01]

Hi guys,

My thrust bearing makes an awful racket so will probably get my clutch done in the near future, or if I decide to start from scratch and build an engine it would go in that. Which clutches for T5's are interchangable? I ask this because I see V70/S70 T5 clutches going for 80 odd quid cheaper on ebay than 850 T5 ones? Also I am aiming in the future to run 350ish bhp. Which of the T5 clutches would be best to handle this power? 850R, V70??

Any advice much appreciated.

Mitch.

[p fandango]

an 850R clutch will do the job

[mitchyboy01]

Thanks for the reply! Does the 850r clutch differ from the V70/S70 T5 then?

[p fandango]

Thanks for the reply! Does the 850r clutch differ from the V70/S70 T5 then?
i haven't got Vadis anymore so can't compare part numbers i'm afraid. I do know the 850R is stronger than the 850 T-5, but whether Volvo updated the S/V70's to the same clutch i've no idea

[mitchyboy01]

Thanks mate. I'm just researching everything atm. I've always wanted to rebuild an engine and might buy a second hand lump to gradually build it to my spec as funds allow. I don't fancy ordering the wrong parts hence the questions lol

[p fandango]

Thanks mate. I'm just researching everything atm. I've always wanted to rebuild an engine and might buy a second hand lump to gradually build it to my spec as funds allow. I don't fancy ordering the wrong parts hence the questions lol
i've got plans to do the same but more important to get the car back on the road, let us know what you find out

[The Flying Moose]

mitch my thrust relaease bearing makes an awful rachet too, I wouldnt worry too much about it to be honest. If the clutch starts slipping then I would change it.

I have Vadis but dont have access to my PC for about a week. If you havnt confirmed your answer by then I will get back to you.

[mitchyboy01]

No problem mate. I'm going delve deeper lol

[mitchyboy01]

mitch my thrust relaease bearing makes an awful rachet too, I wouldnt worry too much about it to be honest. If the clutch starts slipping then I would change it.

I have Vadis but dont have access to my PC for about a week. If you havnt confirmed your answer by then I will get back to you.

Thanks Mr Moose. I might sound very thick here but what is Vadis? A part number checker?

Thanks.

[The Flying Moose]

Thanks Mr Moose. I might sound very thick here but what is Vadis? A part number checker?

Thanks.

No Im the thick one for not explaining it. Vadis is the Volvo diagnostics and schematics computer. It details every single component and procedure for maintaining every model of Volvo... a very useful piece of software.

[p fandango]

got these number which claim to be for the 850R, yet it states M56 not the M59 the R had

Clutch Kit, B5234T5, M56: [271956]£205ish
Release Bearing: [9181780]£37ish
Clutch Cover Bolt, x6: [959219 x6]£3ish

[mitchyboy01]

got these number which claim to be for the 850R, yet it states M56 not the M59 the R had

Clutch Kit, B5234T5, M56: [271956]£205ish
Release Bearing: [9181780]£37ish
Clutch Cover Bolt, x6: [959219 x6]£3ish

Nice one. Is this from volvo or pattern?

[p fandango]

Nice one. Is this from volvo or pattern?
there Volvo numbers, but say i'm not 100% they are correct because of the wrong gearbox number

[mitchyboy01]

No Im the thick one for not explaining it. Vadis is the Volvo diagnostics and schematics computer. It details every single component and procedure for maintaining every model of Volvo... a very useful piece of software.

Thanks for the explanation. Sounds really useful indeed. How do I get hold of Vadis or is it only for Volvo dealers etc??

[The Flying Moose]

Thanks for the explanation. Sounds really useful indeed. How do I get hold of Vadis or is it only for Volvo dealers etc??

No need to be a dealer, its quite expensive though. If you PM me with your address I will sort you a copy out when I next get a chance.

[WOODY T5]

Just put the R clutch in my t5 mate with a gripper diff run 320+ and It fine so yea defo R clutch I would say

[mitchyboy01]

No need to be a dealer, its quite expensive though. If you PM me with your address I will sort you a copy out when I next get a chance.

Thanks mate, much appreciated. My email or actual home address lol??

[The Flying Moose]

Thanks mate, much appreciated. My email or actual home address lol??

Home address mate ill burn it to a couple of CD's.

[siamblue]

got these number which claim to be for the 850R, yet it states M56 not the M59 the R had

Clutch Kit, B5234T5, M56: [271956]£205ish
Release Bearing: [9181780]£37ish
Clutch Cover Bolt, x6: [959219 x6]£3ish

That's not the number for the SMF clutch kit. it had a few more 2's in it IIRC. my kit was about £300 inc the bearing, the bearing alone is £100 for a pattern one on Ebay.

Gary,

[siamblue]

272218

[fyldetowbars]

when i went to view your r he said it had a differant gearbox on m59 i think he said so put that into view and cheak before buying a clutch regards les

[p fandango]

when i went to view your r he said it had a differant gearbox on m59 i think he said so put that into view and cheak before buying a clutch regards les
the M59 has a vicous coupling on the driveshaft which works as a basic limited slip diff. It also has the better clutch which also fits the M56H (found on normal T-5's)

[mitchyboy01]

when i went to view your r he said it had a differant gearbox on m59 i think he said so put that into view and cheak before buying a clutch regards les

That's the thing mate. Because he was bull****ting me so much about the car i haven't got a clue what it has and hasn't got. Hopefully Niles and Justin will be able to shed some light on this today. Cheers.

[mitchyboy01]

Home address mate ill burn it to a couple of CD's.
Thanks mate. Will send PM now.

[MrMark]

there are two release bearings

release bearing / clutch slave cylinder in one unit which is about £100

or

release bearing about £35

with seperate slave clylinder

about £100 for the slave cylinder

[p fandango]

Hopefully Niles and Justin will be able to shed some light on this today
sounds like your going to have a good meet, shame i'm not closer. If you need any parts make sure Niles gets them for you & not Justin, he tends to order the wrong bits lol

[p fandango]

there are two release bearings

release bearing / clutch slave cylinder in one unit which is about £100

or

release bearing about £35

with seperate slave clylinder

about £100 for the slave cylinder
sure they fitted the slave cylinder internally on the later cars, can't remember if they changed it when they went S/V70 or changed to ME7 (1999 on)

[Niles]

sounds like your going to have a good meet, shame i'm not closer. If you need any parts make sure Niles gets them for you & not Justin, he tends to order the wrong bits lol

lol

[Niles]

clutch slave cylinder is outside on the m56. Got 1 in my dining room. Don't tell Mrs Niles, she thinks its some kind of central heating component. lol

[p fandango]

lol
ask him about the 2.5 T-5 if you don't already know lol

[Dangerous Dave]

sure they fitted the slave cylinder internally on the later cars, can't remember if they changed it when they went S/V70 or changed to ME7 (1999 on)
Think (will have to check on vadis) they changed to the concentric slave cylinder around 1997/98 (so when they went x70 range). Apparently it was to try and cure a a clutch judder problem (or something vibration related).

What a great idea someone had to put the thing inside the bellhousing and have it integrated in with the release bearing so it would cost 3 times as much to replace FFS.

[p fandango]

Apparently it was to try and cure a a clutch judder problem (or something vibration related).
such a big problem that many thousand 850 owner haven't complained about it lol

[Dangerous Dave]

such a big problem that many thousand 850 owner haven't complained about it lol
LOL yeah.

Apparently the CSC also makes the pedal feel lighter as it does away with the lever and pivot associated with an external slave cylinder.

[siamblue]

LOL yeah.

Apparently the CSC also makes the pedal feel lighter as it does away with the lever and pivot associated with an external slave cylinder.

Yep that is what i have, light pedal and vibration on take off.

Gary.

[t5lover]

Ha ha :)