Brake upgrades

[nottsgreent5]

are there any other caliper options for the 850 apart from the usaul R upgrades been looking at some s2/porsche 4 pot brembos on ebay for a decent price just wonderd how much work would be involved to make them fit

[LiamT4]

Think you need 18" wheels to fit the porsche kits, other than that i don't know.

[Nealevo]

Mate I have vw Audi calipers on my 850 r with Volvo xc90 330mm brembo discs and they are awesome, pic of said upgrade in my garage pics

[martybelfastt5]

nealevo i need to see these brakes,,,pictures please as ive wondering the same thing??

[nottsgreent5]

what kind of money did it set you back if you dont mind me asking for the whole set up

[Nealevo]

hi mate, cost me £140 for disc and pads, £28 for pads vw passat or golf vr6 and discs £110 for XC90 330 mm brembos, as for calipers and carriers i got them from a vw breakers in coventry, 'sanburn vw' and they were £40 :-) i took a chance on fitment as im a vw nut at heart, and they bolted straight on the hardest part was getting the standards off, and they fit snuggly under my 17 inch volans, stopping power is awesome with no fade or vibration and i even went on a track day and no problems, my next plan is for audi rs4 setup but will need bigger wheels so it can wait.... and probs let me know and ill try and help

[martybelfastt5]

any pictures of your complete front wheel? also what hoses/lines you using?

[nottsgreent5]

do the carriers bolt straight onto the volvo hubs?

[nottsgreent5]

just had a look on ebay and all the vr6 calipers seem to be 288mm am i looking for the wrong ones lol

[Nealevo]

I think they are from an Audi coupe, and the discs were trial and error on which gave the closest clearance, I will take a pic when my car is off ramps I'm having a decat pipe fitted at mo,

[nottsgreent5]

would they be from a 90s audi coupe quatro twin piston they look similer

[Nealevo]

Mine are only single piston (very big thou) i think it was audi coupe v6 and I'm using s/s braided hoses off a 302mm Volvo conversion,

[Nealevo]

Look on eBay numbers
170513918472 brake pads
150611500124 calipers are like these

[p fandango]

would they be from a 90s audi coupe quatro twin piston they look similer
quite alot of them on there, £50 each for twin pots. Be interesting to know if they fit

[The Flying Moose]

I would be very interested to know the exact part number of the caliper and the car it came from, you may have stumbled accross a nice new secret there.

If there is any way you can find out it would be gratefully appreciated by many.

[p fandango]

comparing the like you posted, to the Audi twin pots the mounts do look the same

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/$(KGrHqIOKioE3FYNJ40UBN4S0ZpDf!~~_12.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/150611500124?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.co.uk%3A80% 2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm570%26_nkw%3D1 50611500124%26_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_500wt_949)

http://i.ebayimg.com/11/!Bvbu6kwEWk~$(KGrHqYOKj4EviHZkSUEBMEkf)5tvw~~_12.J PG (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-80-90-COUPE-CABRIO-FRONT-BRAKE-CALIPER-D-SIDE-R-H-/230486501512?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item35aa10e888#ht_881wt_932)

[nottsgreent5]

bet even on standard disc they would beater being twins

[p fandango]

bet even on standard disc they would beater being twins
you can get the same 336mm XC90 discs for £100 off ebay so might as well go straight for them anyway

[nottsgreent5]

yeah sounds a better idear just need to finnd out what carriers to use as the biggest brake setup on the 90s quatros seems to be just under 290mm

[martybelfastt5]

I would be very interested to know the exact part number of the caliper and the car it came from, you may have stumbled accross a nice new secret there.

If there is any way you can find out it would be gratefully appreciated by many.

my thoughts exactly,guess what break everyone will be ruuning next lol

[p fandango]

my thoughts exactly,guess what break everyone will be ruuning next lol
i might have a set of 302's for sale soon, just gutted i've put the 18's on the S60 now tho lol

[nottsgreent5]

wanted to go abit bigger and diffferent than 302s got to be on a budget tho theres a 312mm octavia vrs set up calipers carriers discs pads off 11 plate car 80 quid if anyone knows if they could be a bargain lol

[Nealevo]

I've had a look at my brakes today and the carriers are Volvo 302 items hope this helps you all....

[nottsgreent5]

yip it does mate brill

[Nealevo]

Nottsgreen vrs will bolt straight on :-) same distance in carrier offset

[swampy]

And any one fitting different calipers that require special hoses i can supply braided ones at a very good price.

[nottsgreent5]

your a star mate think ive found cheap upgrade then cheers

[p fandango]

I've had a look at my brakes today and the carriers are Volvo 302 items hope this helps you all....
so your set-up is

302mm caliper carriers & hoses
Audi Coupe calipers (i'm hoping for twin pot)
336mm XC90 discs

[nottsgreent5]

sure there was a set of twins for 40 quid ebay think thevrs 1s are singles

[Nealevo]

Yep with braided hoses off 302 setup aswell pads from passat v6

[nottsgreent5]

might sound daft but why passat breaks and not audi ones

[Nealevo]

No idea I took an old pad that I got with the bits to my local spares place and that's what they came up with, it may well also fit Audi as vw use many cross reference parts :-)

[nottsgreent5]

thanks mate think im going to find some audi twins plenty of audi vw breakers near me wonder ir s2 calipers wil bolt up to 302s? mite be be wide tho lol

[Alan M]

I can't see 302mm carriers fitting over a 336mm disc. That would be an increase in radius of 17mm which I would think would catch the carrier. It would be nice if this setup is the exact setup that is mentioned though.

[Nealevo]

My disc are 324.6 mm measured today and I don't have any rubbing which I was expecting, single piston caliper I'll take pics tomorrow

[nottsgreent5]

thats what i thought but can get most of the bits cheap was just going to give it go lol

[merc85]

I so want to be wrong, But i was just thinking the same, my 302 mm carrier only just clear 302mm disc's.

I Really think there will be some rubbing, so if the disc's are 325mm what were they off?

[Alan M]

Are they XC90 discs then as I thought only 316mm and 336 x 30 mm were the options available for that car.

[nottsgreent5]

just looked and there the only two options for xc90

[Alan M]

There are 320mm police spec phase 2 70 series T5 discs.

[p fandango]

My disc are 324.6 mm measured today and I don't have any rubbing which I was expecting, single piston caliper I'll take pics tomorrow
PFV list 316mm or 336mm, they do list a 320mm for C30/C70/S40/V50

[Alan M]

PFV list 316mm or 336mm, they do list a 320mm for C30/C70/S40/V50

Wrong size centre bore for the 850 though. You need the police spec 70 series 320mm if its those discs being used as they will have the correct centre bore.

[nottsgreent5]

think mite try twin pot audi calipers on 302s

[Alan M]

think mite try twin pot audi calipers on 302s

Say how you get on as it will be interesting to see. Can you try them behind Titans aswell:wink:.

[nottsgreent5]

im on 17s but not titans will give updates when funds allow lol

[Nealevo]

they were definately from xc90 as i made a joke to HLM about the size, well i know it works and ive never had any issues, its upto you!!!!!!!!

[p fandango]

they were definately from xc90 as i made a joke to HLM about the size, well i know it works and ive never had any issues, its upto you!!!!!!!!
i'm certainly not doubting your set-up, just trying to establish as much info as possible so i don't waste money buying the wrong bits

[martybelfastt5]

this is ssswwwweeet! at last we got options,to me it was either 302s or up the wheels go porsche/s60R stuff now we got in betweens,nice this is becoming my favourite thread,lol saying that im dew new brakes so bad!

[nottsgreent5]

mine are pretty new they just dont feel like they wanna stop as fast as id like them to lol

[Nealevo]

ok ok lets start again, ive had a fellow member come out and have a proper look at my brakes today, even in the wet he wasnt put off, wheels off tape measure out and rubber gloves were used......
disks are 316mm x 30mm off XC90, sorry i was measuring with wheels on and mis read, really sorry
calipers and CARRIERS are from audi 80 coupe V6,
braided hoses are from volvo 302 setup as they are a bit longer than standard,
pads are from passat or audi v6
hope it sorts out a few issues
photos were taken, Alan might put them on this link later
and probs ill try my best to answer

[merc85]

Now gotta try and find those carrier's lol

[merc85]

Genuine Audi number for front left 2 piston caliper is

895615123A

Right Hand Number is

895615124A

The TRW/Lucas number is BHU102 Left / and BHU103 Right

The Carrier Part number is

447615125 NOT handed and the Lucas Part Number is BDA169

Hope this helps

[merc85]

10901

10902

Found off ebay But these relate to may Part number post

[martybelfastt5]

316 is still a great improvement under 17s

[leet5r]

are they as good as a 302 set up with proper disks and pads like carboech or pagid etc m8

[The Flying Moose]

Thats my christmas list sorted ;)

[Nealevo]

Standard brembo disk and standard off the shelf OE pads never had an issue with either and I do drive quickly some say like a £££££ lol

[leet5r]

what did it cost you all in , as i have 302s with plod spec pads and braided hoses m8 , whats the back end of the car like under braking

[Nealevo]

All in £160 ish see earlier posts for prices

[nottsgreent5]

now the fronts are sorted anyone got any ideas for the rear brakes lol

[martybelfastt5]

can you confirm if these are GIRLING 60 calipers? should be marked this

[leet5r]

any pics with the wheel on yet m8

[Alan M]

No they are not Girling. They are ATE calipers with both the Audi logo and VW logo. The discs were 316mm x 30mm but Neal is going to confirm the Brembo part number for the disc so that they can be identified. The pads do hang off the top of the disc but very very slightly about 1-2mm but this could probably be remedied by using 320mm discs but this would have to be tried first for clearance. I'll post a few pics that I took so people get the general shape and what the calipers look like. The pad surface contact are on the disc was so much more substanial compared to both 302mm and 286mm setups and they do perform excellently out on the road as demonstrated by Neal lol.

The calipers used the carriers they were designed for and not the 302 carriers as thought earlier.

[Nealevo]

Lee, There is a pic with wheel ON is in my garage pics on profile, click on my username and have a look, cheers Alan btw and thanks for sorting my other problem, I've ordered one already to eliminate :-)

[Alan M]

A little more digging the calipers look like they are 57mm ATE calipers and carriers for 288mm discs from a VW 99 model. They are calipers on the VW Passat 1.8t model 97-00 MY I think those MY are right but please check yourself.

[leet5r]

okay m8 , calm down lol , looks good to me , have you tryed them against the 302 as if i still had the standard size brakes then i would go for your upgrade etc but i have the 302 and would like to know if they are signifantly better tan the 302 which most on here have
cheers

[Alan M]

From first impressions yes they are far better than 302 calipers. I have run both 302 and 286 on the Volvo. The only comparison really will be if you do stopping comparisons with both Volvo and these setups on the same car.

[Alan M]

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff331/MulveyA/Camera30-05-2011053.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff331/MulveyA/Camera30-05-2011052.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff331/MulveyA/Camera30-05-2011051.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff331/MulveyA/Camera30-05-2011050.jpg
http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff331/MulveyA/Camera30-05-2011049.jpg

Pictures as fitted to Neals car. Just need the disc reference number off the Brembo box now Neal for disc identification..

[Alan M]

The only thing about the VW calipers are that they are for 25mm thickness discs so if possible someone needs to check if the VW calipers fit over the 28mm-30mm Volvo discs. If not the calipers need to be identified exactly. As I said earlier please check yourself to see if the calipers are correct for you if you go down this route.

[Nealevo]

Will do !!!!

[p fandango]

they do look the same as the newer VAG stuff, these were listed as being for Audi A3/4 & Skoda VRs & with 288mm discs as well. I'm still looking at using the twin pots if poss

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/4543/kgrhquokpoe25fdctkcbn3r.jpg

[nottsgreent5]

mk2 focus st brake set up looks similar to the 850s ate calipers and 320 disks

[Nealevo]

brembo website. brake disc
Front Brembo Brake Discs - VOLVO XC90 2.4 D5 03 on
Quick Find: 02-11900
Availability: In stock

£76.80

[Alan M]

Cheers Neal. Your tape measure must be out lol.

[nottsgreent5]

these carriers seem very hard to come by spoke to 2 vw audi breakers and they said they like hens teeth

[p fandango]

these carriers seem very hard to come by spoke to 2 vw audi breakers and they said they like hens teeth
i've seen some adverts selling them as an upgrade for Polo's etc which had 256mm discs, so the VW & Volvo scene are chasing them now lol

[Nealevo]

i'll have a look at my local breakers as they are vw specialists, if i get hold of any i will post them on here at cost, and the discs are £30 cheaper than i got them for !!!!!!(GRRRRRRrrrr) so its even cheaper now

[p fandango]

i'll have a look at my local breakers as they are vw specialists, if i get hold of any i will post them on here at cost, and the discs are £30 cheaper than i got them for !!!!!!(GRRRRRRrrrr) so its even cheaper now
i drive past Sanburns everyday going to work, not sure whether to swop or not tho as i'm on 16's now :worried:

[mhill53]

so do we have a definate caliper part number to try and trace?

[Alan M]

I think these calipers are the same as Neals http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260751229531&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT There are differences between many of the cars that these are fitted to but the passat and A4 seem to be the cars with these calipers fitted which are the same shape and look like the same model 57mm ATE caliper.

[Nealevo]

They do look the same !!!!

[Alan M]

And some more -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320697598413&ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170610169150&ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170610169202&ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT

And this one has a list of models these calipers are on -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BRAKE-CALIPER-FRONT-AUDI-A6-A4-QUATTRO-SKODA-SUPERB-/120689422126?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c19a66f2e

[Alan M]

This list seems to be a pretty comprehensive list of the cars these ATE calipers were intended for.

Audi, A4 (1995-2001), 1.8
T, Petrol, Saloon, FWD, 20v Brake Calipers 03/1995-01/2001 Front LH
T Avant, Petrol, Estate, FWD, 20v Brake Calipers 03/1996-06/2001 Front LH
T Quattro, Petrol, Saloon, 4WD, 20v Brake Calipers 05/1999-01/2001 Front LH
T Avant Quattro, Petrol, Estate, 4WD, 20v Brake Calipers 05/1999-06/2001 Front LH

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Audi, A4 (1995-2001), 2.4
Petrol, Saloon, 30v Brake Calipers 09/1997-01/2001 Front LH
Avant, Petrol, Estate, 30v Brake Calipers 09/1997-06/2001 Front LH

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Audi, A4 (1995-2001), 2.5
Diesel, Saloon, FWD, 24v Brake Calipers 01/1998-01/2001 Front LH
Avant, Diesel, Estate, FWD, 24v Brake Calipers 01/1998-06/2001 Front LH
Quattro, Diesel, Saloon, 4WD, 24v Brake Calipers 01/1998-01/2001 Front LH
Avant Quattro, Diesel, Estate, 4WD, 24v Brake Calipers 01/1998-06/2001 Front LH

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Audi, A4 (1995-2001), 2.6
Petrol, Saloon, FWD, 12v Brake Calipers 03/1995-09/1997 Front LH
Avant, Petrol, Estate, FWD, 12v Brake Calipers 03/1996-09/1997 Front LH
Quattro, Petrol, Saloon, 4WD, 12v Brake Calipers 03/1995-09/1997 Front LH

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Audi, A4 (1995-2001), 2.8
Petrol, Saloon, FWD, 30v Brake Calipers 03/1996-11/1999 Front LH
Avant, Petrol, Estate, FWD, 30v Brake Calipers 03/1996-11/1999 Front LH
Quattro, Petrol, Saloon, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 04/1996-01/2001 Front LH
Avant Quattro, Petrol, Estate, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 04/1996-06/2001 Front LH

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Audi, A6 (1997-2004/5), 1.8
Petrol, Saloon, FWD, 20v, Turbo Brake Calipers 05/1997-06/2004 Front LH
Avant, Petrol, Estate, FWD, 20v, Turbo Brake Calipers 05/1997-06/2005 Front LH
Quattro, Petrol, Saloon, 4WD, 20v Brake Calipers 11/1999-09/2003 Front RH
Avant Quattro, Petrol, Estate, 4WD, 20v Brake Calipers 11/1999-09/2003 Front RH

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Audi, A6 (1997-2004/5), 1.9
Diesel, Saloon, 8v, Turbo Brake Calipers 05/1997-06/2004 Front LH
Avant, Diesel, Estate, 8v, Turbo Brake Calipers 02/1998-06/2005 Front LH

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Audi, A6 (1997-2004/5), 2.0
Petrol, Saloon, 20v Brake Calipers 08/2001-06/2004 Front LH
Avant, Petrol, Estate, 20v Brake Calipers 08/2001-06/2005 Front LH

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Audi, A6 (1997-2004/5), 2.4
Petrol, Saloon, FWD, 30v Brake Calipers 05/1997-06/2004 Front LH
Avant, Petrol, Estate, FWD, 30v Brake Calipers 02/1998-06/2005 Front LH
Quattro, Petrol, Saloon, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 11/1999-09/2003 Front RH
Avant Quattro, Petrol, Estate, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 11/1999-09/2003 Front RH

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Audi, A6 (1997-2004/5), 2.5
Diesel, Saloon, FWD, 24v, Turbo Brake Calipers 11/1997-06/2004 Front LH
Avant, Diesel, Estate, FWD, 24v, Turbo Brake Calipers 02/1998-06/2005 Front LH
Quattro, Diesel, Saloon, 4WD, 24v, Turbo Brake Calipers 04/1998-06/2004 Front RH
Avant Quattro, Diesel, Estate, 4WD, 24v, Turbo Brake Calipers 11/1999-06/2005 Front RH

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Audi, A6 (1997-2004/5), 2.8
Petrol, Saloon, FWD, 30v Brake Calipers 05/1997-06/1999 Front LH
Avant, Petrol, Estate, FWD, 30v Brake Calipers 05/1997-06/1999 Front LH
Quattro, Petrol, Saloon, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 05/1997-08/2001 Front RH
Avant Quattro, Petrol, Estate, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 05/1997-08/2001 Front RH

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Audi, A6 (1997-2004/5), 3.0
Quattro, Petrol, Saloon, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 08/2001-06/2004 Front LH
Avant Quattro, Petrol, Estate, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 08/2001-06/2005 Front LH

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Skoda, Superb (2002-2008), 1.8
Petrol, Saloon, 20v Brake Calipers 04/2002-12/2008 Front LH

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Skoda, Superb (2002-2008), 1.9
TDi PD, Diesel, Saloon, 8v Brake Calipers 04/2002-12/2008 Front LH

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Skoda, Superb (2002-2008), 2.0
Petrol, Saloon, 8v Brake Calipers 04/2002-12/2008 Front LH

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Skoda, Superb (2002-2008), 2.5
Diesel, Saloon, TDi, 24v Brake Calipers 04/2002-07/2008 Front LH

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Skoda, Superb (2002-2008), 2.8
Petrol, Saloon, 30v Brake Calipers 04/2002-12/2008 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (1997-2000), 1.8
Turbo, Petrol, Saloon, 20v Brake Calipers 02/1997-12/2000 Front LH
Turbo, Petrol, Estate, 20v Brake Calipers 09/1997-12/2000 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (1997-2000), 1.9
Diesel, Saloon, TDi, 8v, 110bhp, 115bhp Brake Calipers 02/1997-12/2000 Front LH
Diesel, Estate, TDi, 8v, 110bhp, 115bhp Brake Calipers 09/1997-12/2000 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (1997-2000), 2.3
V5, Petrol, Saloon, 10v Brake Calipers 01/1998-12/2000 Front LH
V5, Petrol, Estate, 10v Brake Calipers 01/1998-12/2000 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (1997-2000), 2.5
Diesel, Saloon, 24v Brake Calipers 09/1999-12/2000 Front LH
Diesel, Estate, 24v Brake Calipers 09/1999-12/2000 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (1997-2000), 2.8
Petrol, Saloon, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 05/1999-12/2000 Front LH
Petrol, Estate, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 01/1998-12/2000 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (2001-2005), 1.8
Turbo, Petrol, Saloon, 20v Brake Calipers 12/2000-08/2005 Front LH
Turbo, Petrol, Estate, 20v Brake Calipers 12/2000-12/2005 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (2001-2005), 1.9
Diesel, Saloon, FWD, TDi PD, 8v Brake Calipers 12/2000-08/2005 Front LH
Diesel, Estate, FWD, TDi PD, 8v Brake Calipers 12/2000-12/2005 Front LH
4Motion, Diesel, Saloon, 4WD, TDi PD, 8v Brake Calipers 01/2003-08/2005 Front LH
4Motion, Diesel, Estate, 4WD, TDi PD, 8v Brake Calipers 01/2003-12/2005 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (2001-2005), 2.0
Petrol, Saloon, 8v Brake Calipers 12/2000-05/2002 Front LH
Petrol, Estate, 8v Brake Calipers 12/2000-05/2002 Front LH
Petrol, Saloon, 20v Brake Calipers 05/2002-08/2005 Front LH
Petrol, Estate, 20v Brake Calipers 05/2002-12/2005 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (2001-2005), 2.3
V5, Petrol, Saloon, 20v Brake Calipers 12/2000-08/2004 Front LH
V5, Petrol, Estate, 20v Brake Calipers 12/2000-08/2004 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (2001-2005), 2.5
Diesel, Saloon, 24v Brake Calipers 12/2000-08/2005 Front LH
Diesel, Estate, 24v Brake Calipers 12/2000-12/2005 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (2001-2005), 2.8
4Motion, Petrol, Saloon, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 12/2000-08/2005 Front LH
4Motion, Petrol, Estate, 4WD, 30v Brake Calipers 12/2000-12/2005 Front LH

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Volkswagen, Passat (2001-2005), 4.0
W8, Petrol, Saloon, 4WD, 32v Brake Calipers 12/2001-12/2004 Front LH
W8, Petrol, Estate, 4WD, 32v Brake Calipers 12/2001-12/2004 Front LH

[Alan M]

A bargain for someone?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/audi-a4-a3-a6-vw-front-calipers-/220783288525?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3367b5a0cd

[p fandango]

A bargain for someone?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/audi-a4-a3-a6-vw-front-calipers-/220783288525?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3367b5a0cd
& i've just emptied my paypal account lol. I'm still not 100% convinced as i've just gone back to 16's & bought tyres, if we could find out if the twin pots fit i'd be forced to go with it lol

[Alan M]

The only thing is with the twin piston caliper is that they were not used on 288mm discs so the carrier will probably be in the wrong place. You can upgrade the A4 brakes to S4 calipers but they run a larger disc than 288mm (equivalent of 336mm when caliper used on the Volvo) and that would mean another similar step up in disc size depending on the Disc on the S4 (345mm disc on the 4.2 and 321mm on the 2.7). You would need some hoooooggg wheels lol. And then matching discs to suit the new caliper position.

[p fandango]

The only thing is with the twin piston caliper is that they were not used on 288mm discs so the carrier will probably be in the wrong place. You can upgrade the A4 brakes to S4 calipers but they run a larger disc than 288mm (equivalent of 336mm when caliper used on the Volvo) and that would mean another similar step up in disc size depending on the Disc on the S4 (345mm disc on the 4.2 and 321mm on the 2.7). You would need some hoooooggg wheels lol. And then matching discs to suit the new caliper position.
i've got no problem with 18/19's lol, so S4's will fit but need bigger discs again

[Alan M]

Yes it would look like from a little addition that 33mm extra disc diameter on 336mm Volvo disc would be needed and the 336mm disc was a little to small anyway so a 340mm disc probably would have been best then that would mean the 33mm extra on that disc.

[Alan M]

There are 374mm discs on BMW 760Li 445hp models but I don't know what the disc height or thickness are and they fit under 18" wheels on the BMW.

[Alan M]

Passat 4 Motion V6 Calipers do not fit. Well the carriers don't. The calipers look the same with the same fixing centres. I'll be checking more carriers when I can.

[si850r]

[QUOTE=Nealevo;381815], wheels off tape measure out and rubber gloves were used.....


Is this some kind of sexual kick mate.....

[Alan M]

Well thats two breakers so far and around 300 or so different carriers went through and still no joy. Thes carriers seem to be different to everything I went through. They need to match the mounting lugs for Volvo carriers so 106mm centres where as most VW carriers are 95mm centres. These what I found were 95mm are Passat, A4 (B5 models) and the 4motion models and quattro models also. Sharan and cars of that size seem to be different again so at the moment I am finding it hard to track down the correct model. I need to check the few Golf/Bora models now that run the 57mm ATE caliper so hopefully something will pop up. Neal is also trying to help and track some calipers down.

[Alan M]

Another one off the list. VW Bora carriers from a turbo and 1.9tdi running the same 57mm ATE calipers. They are no good they have 95mm mounting centres.

[Alan M]

The carriers for this setup seem to be the sticking point. If anyone who knows a VW/Audi breaker that will let them look through older model brakes to newer brakes it would really help as that way someone else could see what carriers work or not.

Neal any sugggestions? The exact model car this caliper/carrier set came from is what we need to know.

[martybelfastt5]

has any1 found out any more on this as my brakes are top of my list at present also ive joined an audi forum as the missus drives them and hopfully soon upgrading it ect tho a post and link to this might help track these down??

[p fandango]

i've just but a help thread on VZi (big VW forum) asking for help about the 106mm carriers, i'll let you know if/when i find anything out

[Alan M]

No Joy but I am modifying some B6 carriers to run 336mm discs with V6 calipers from the VAG range. Parts are cheap and once the carriers are made I will not need to use anything other than the widely available Vag parts. There are more options when it comes to performance pads aswell with a sustanial price difference compared to Volvo performance pads.

[p fandango]

No Joy but I am modifying some B6 carriers to run 336mm discs with V6 calipers from the VAG range. Parts are cheap and once the carriers are made I will not need to use anything other than the widely available Vag parts. There are more options when it comes to performance pads aswell with a sustanial price difference compared to Volvo performance pads.
found out recently i get OE automotive parts cheaper than cost thru work, just need to know exact model info so i can order them

[martybelfastt5]

another brake upgrade discussion on a vag forum but couldnt see any details that help,,,,any one know a member lol?

http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/153276/1014271.aspx

[martybelfastt5]

tramped a locol breaker today all i could find where the 90odd centtres
passat tdis 90 105 110 all pre facelift
audi a4 16 18 19tdi
a3 18
a6 19 tdi
sharan 19 tdi 110
boras 19 tdi 2.0
golfs 1.9 tdi
octavia 1.9 tdi
all pretty much the same these where all early models no late version mk2s ect tho im guessing these callipers will be found on bigger hp stuff one i did try thought it would be a hit was a A6 2.5tdi tho someone beat me to it and had taken front hubs and callipers,,,,tut going to phone a speacilist vw audi breaker not far from me tomorrow see if i can find any there,..

[p fandango]

tramped a locol breaker today all i could find where the 90odd centtres
passat tdis 90 105 110 all pre facelift
audi a4 16 18 19tdi
a3 18
a6 19 tdi
sharan 19 tdi 110
boras 19 tdi 2.0
golfs 1.9 tdi
octavia 1.9 tdi
all pretty much the same these where all early models no late version mk2s ect tho im guessing these callipers will be found on bigger hp stuff one i did try thought it would be a hit was a A6 2.5tdi tho someone beat me to it and had taken front hubs and callipers,,,,tut going to phone a speacilist vw audi breaker not far from me tomorrow see if i can find any there,..
Audi 80 V6 Coupe was mentioned earlier in the thread. Looks like i'm going to have to go back down this route as i can't get the Porsche calipers. I go past Sandburns most days (where the OP said he got the bits from) but won't be doing the brakes for a few months yet

[merc85]

So are we saying that audi 80 v6 caliper carrier's and calipers may Fit the 850 hub?

[p fandango]

So are we saying that audi 80 v6 caliper carrier's and calipers may Fit the 850 hub?
this is what Nealevo says who's done the conversion, & yes it all bolts straight on


disks are 316mm x 30mm off XC90, sorry i was measuring with wheels on and mis read, really sorry
calipers and CARRIERS are from audi 80 coupe V6,
braided hoses are from volvo 302 setup as they are a bit longer than standard,
pads are from passat or audi v6

[merc85]

Ok gonna see if i can get these carrier's from work (new) and offer them up. will keep you all posted.

[LiamT4]

Are you saying that an audi 80 has better brakes than the 850s and s/v70s?
Thought volvos were meant to be about safety.

[p fandango]

Are you saying that an audi 80 has better brakes than the 850s and s/v70s?
Thought volvos were meant to be about safety.
it looks like if you fit the caliper carriers off an Audi 80 you can fit 316mm (possibly 320mm) discs because of the spacing from the hub

[p fandango]

Ok gonna see if i can get these carrier's from work (new) and offer them up. will keep you all posted.
the 2 mounting bolts need to be 106mm apart, most VW's are 95mm so will be easy to tell if there the right ones

i found a thread (LINK (http://www.vwgolfmk1.org.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=58073)) of some Golf owners looking for the same caliper carriers & this info turned up (not sure how accurate it is, i'm only copy & pasting)

Audi 80 quattro (83 to 85)
Audi 90 5-cylinder (85 to 87)
Audi Coupe 5-cylinder (85 to 88
Scirocco 16V (if you can find one !!)

Part Numbers:-
Caliper carriers - 853 615 125 (x2)
Carrier bolts - N900 689 02 (x4)
Sliding pin bolts - 321 615 141 (x4)

[swampy]

Surely with the number of members on here some one works on or knows some one with access to a cnc machine etc?

Several years ago a peugeot tuner had some custom caliper carriers made up, that moved the caliper out by around 17mm so as to accomodate the disk from a 406 but retain the standerd caliper.
Was a very cheap but worth while mod.
You didnt get full contact on the disk but due to physics and the caliper running further out with a bigger swept area and cooling area brake performance was improved.
Just a thought

[Transient]

I went down the tarox route. 8 pots on the front and 6 pots on the rear. I wish I hadn't though. a set of bloody pads for the front is £290 + vat and the rear is £243 + Vat

[AndysR]

I went down the tarox route. 8 pots on the front and 6 pots on the rear. I wish I hadn't though. a set of bloody pads for the front is £290 + vat and the rear is £243 + Vat

Any increase in pad life with those fitted or do they wear at a similar rate?

[Transient]

Any increase in pad life with those fitted or do they wear at a similar rate? They last a bit longer I have tried the race golds on the road bit forget it.

[Tomcat]

Is it not possible to get a machine shop to mill some mounting brackets for these calipers?, surely it wouldn't cost that much?.

[deathrider311271]

give me exact dimensions and i can get any bracket u want made at cost

[AndysR]

They last a bit longer I have tried the race golds on the road bit forget it.

I guess that helps to soften the blow when it comes to changing them... albeit only slightly at those costs.. lol

[swampy]

give me exact dimensions and i can get any bracket u want made at cost

there you go, should be a nice simple upgrade then!!

[merc85]

give me exact dimensions and i can get any bracket u want made at cost

Was wondering if you run the 302 upgrade? if you do couldn't you fabricate the carrier's but make them a little longer to suit a larger disc?

Just a thought

[deathrider311271]

give me exact dimensions and i can get any bracket u want made at cost

Was wondering if you run the 302 upgrade? if you do couldn't you fabricate the carrier's but make them a little longer to suit a larger disc?

Just a thought

unfortunatly the 302 brackets are cast not machined, im currently working on a project to fit the 6 pot slim callipers under 17" wheels with approx 320-330mm discs

[swampy]

unfortunatly the 302 brackets are cast not machined, im currently working on a project to fit the 6 pot slim callipers under 17" wheels with approx 320-330mm discs

but copy the dimensions from the cast mount in to a cad program and replicate them in billet.
So long as the bolt hole centres line up and the thickness is the same to keep the disc centrd in the caliper then all will be fine.

Over the wkend ill post some pics up of my cars brakes 330mm i think it is with brembo 4 pots as standerd!

[siamblue]

unfortunatly the 302 brackets are cast not machined, im currently working on a project to fit the 6 pot slim callipers under 17" wheels with approx 320-330mm discs

I managed to do this as well, so if you want any info pm me, i am stage further on now as my AP discs are worn out, so i have just finished getting a set of S60R front discs to fit with my KAD 6 pots.

Gary.

[Alan M]

Sandburns has no carriers or calipers the same as Neals. I tried ther a good while back and posted in the thread that I couln't find them. I've checked literally hundreds or carrier types but still not found the correct items. Neal runs 336mm discs by the way.

[p fandango]

Sandburns has no carriers or calipers the same as Neals. I tried ther a good while back and posted in the thread that I couln't find them. I've checked literally hundreds or carrier types but still not found the correct items. Neal runs 336mm discs by the way.
so the carriers weren't Audi 80's as first thought, or have you not come across any of them?

[siamblue]

Hi guys. I have a cad drawing here when I first fitted my pink porky four pots on my cassis r all them years ago. I fitted these on my 302 discs at the time. But if you want to use bigger discs then just add half of the extra size to the top face and if you have different size mounting holes machine to suit. These are for our hubs.

Pm me if you want it, I.don't want to post it on the net because it will get copied and some unscrupulous people like to screw Joe public over for a few schillings.

[merc85]

You have pm

[deathrider311271]

Hi guys. I have a cad drawing here when I first fitted my pink porky four pots on my cassis r all them years ago. I fitted these on my 302 discs at the time. But if you want to use bigger discs then just add half of the extra size to the top face and if you have different size mounting holes machine to suit. These are for our hubs.

Pm me if you want it, I.don't want to post it on the net because it will get copied and some unscrupulous people like to screw Joe public over for a few schillings.

I will pm u when i get home thanks

[martybelfastt5]

ok got a hit from a local car enthusiast site,,simlpy asked could any of the volk/audi boys tell me what carriers had the 106 mounting centres and explained most i tryed had th 90 odd centres this is my reply
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Member Since:Apr 3, 2008


Sounds like the calipers are from any VAG car with 288mm discs ( passat 1.8T 20v, mk3 Golf VR6, mk4 golf GTI 150bhp) and the bigger caliper carriers are from any VAG car with 312mm discs (TT 225bhp, Mk4 Golf GTI Anni. 180bhp).

The 312mm brake setup use the same calipers as the 288mm setup but the bigger carriers space the calipers out more to allow for the bigger 312mm discs.
Will check mine tomorrow.

i awiat him checking his car fingers crossed also the only other car i acn find shares these brakes is the octavia vrs so 3 in total sounds about right,

[martybelfastt5]

Sandburns has no carriers or calipers the same as Neals. I tried ther a good while back and posted in the thread that I couln't find them. I've checked literally hundreds or carrier types but still not found the correct items. Neal runs 336mm discs by the way.

was it not stated neal was using the smaller 316 xc discs?

[martybelfastt5]

ok ok lets start again, ive had a fellow member come out and have a proper look at my brakes today, even in the wet he wasnt put off, wheels off tape measure out and rubber gloves were used......
disks are 316mm x 30mm off XC90, sorry i was measuring with wheels on and mis read, really sorry
calipers and CARRIERS are from audi 80 coupe V6,
braided hoses are from volvo 302 setup as they are a bit longer than standard,
pads are from passat or audi v6
hope it sorts out a few issues
photos were taken, Alan might put them on this link later
and probs ill try my best to answer
says 316 here,,,,,

[p fandango]

caliper carriers off a TT 225bhp should be easy to get hold of, just look in scrapyards for pre-recall models before they put the spoiler on to stop them crashing lol

i'm getting lost with the mixed info myself tbh. I'm just going to get carriers, take them to a VW specialist to get the calipers that'll match, then measure what disc size i need

[Alan M]

The Brembo part number for the discs Neal used are 336mm they are 30mm thick. I've checked an Audi 80 coupe and the carriers are not the same. So finding the right carriers may be impossible unless someone can physically go through ordered stock at a dealer.

[martybelfastt5]

is there not part numbers on carriers that can be traced by audi???

[Alan M]

No only casting numbers which can not be used to trace anything.

[Alan M]

ok got a hit from a local car enthusiast site,,simlpy asked could any of the volk/audi boys tell me what carriers had the 106 mounting centres and explained most i tryed had th 90 odd centres this is my reply
>>>




On
Member Since:Apr 3, 2008


Sounds like the calipers are from any VAG car with 288mm discs ( passat 1.8T 20v, mk3 Golf VR6, mk4 golf GTI 150bhp) and the bigger caliper carriers are from any VAG car with 312mm discs (TT 225bhp, Mk4 Golf GTI Anni. 180bhp).

The 312mm brake setup use the same calipers as the 288mm setup but the bigger carriers space the calipers out more to allow for the bigger 312mm discs.
Will check mine tomorrow.

i awiat him checking his car fingers crossed also the only other car i acn find shares these brakes is the octavia vrs so 3 in total sounds about right,

No I checked all of these. I have a MK4 golf 1.8t aswell.

[siamblue]

I will pm u when i get home thanks

Thanks for the pm, i tried to upload the vids on the comp of the 3d brackets via my phone but couldn't get it to look right, but have the pics of the drawing i sent to you..

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o222/siamblue/picture04.jpg
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[merc85]

Ok just a update, i have in my hand a Brand new carrier,

Mounting holes from from one hole to the other Not centre to centre but overal distance is 106mm.

So providing i've messured them right This carrier will fit.

Carrier is from a 92-95 Golf mk3 2.8 Vr6

I will be matching it up to a 850 hub later this afternoon and will keep you all posted.

[siamblue]

The Volvos are 106mm centre to centre hole...

[martybelfastt5]

yes !!progress as i got set back yesterday found a guy selling tt 225 brakes they are 96 centre mounting holes!

[p fandango]

yes !!progress as i got set back yesterday found a guy selling tt 225 brakes they are 96 centre mounting holes!
no good then, they need to be 106mm centres. I can't believe these are so hard to find, especially as Nealevo simply got the first set straight off the shelve

[martybelfastt5]

no good then, they need to be 106mm centres. I can't believe these are so hard to find, especially as Nealevo simply got the first set straight off the shelve
i know lol!!

[merc85]

As confirmed, VR6 mk3 golfs are 96mm centre hole to centre hole, :( no good.

[merc85]

94mm hole to hole, still no joy

[Nealevo]

Sorry to drag this back up from the archives but just seen these on fleabay.... 180761255321 they may fit, but the picture is poor.... read description as it mentions T5r

[martybelfastt5]

well they arent audi 80 v6 or the coupe version,both 96 centres, have posted up on another audi forum seem like a clued up bunch and have had a member reckon these are some sort so the volk carriers so any one on volkswagen forums need asking too,,

[p fandango]

well they arent audi 80 v6 or the coupe version,both 96 centres, have posted up on another audi forum seem like a clued up bunch and have had a member reckon these are some sort so the volk carriers so any one on volkswagen forums need asking too,,
i tried on VolksZone & never even got a reply

[T4Rick]

Any more updates lol.Is it for definate we can use the 336mm discs?

[T4Rick]

What about these?thought i seen these on Duannes list

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK1-GTI-CABRIO-SCIROCCO-FRONT-CALIPERS-/260921556598?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3cc022fe76

[T4Rick]

Do the porsche 928 brakes fit with the adaptors?

[GregE102]

Do the porsche 928 brakes fit with the adaptors?

yes porsche 928 calipers work with the S60 disks, not sure what carriers you need?
But they need to be from a Porsche 928 GTS!!!!! all other models of 928 have different brakes the GTS brakes where also called Big Blacks

I know this set up works it on the front of my car!! using DS2500 pads and they work all day long!

I also have the rear S60R 330x28 Disk's using the Porsche Cayenne 4x4 rear calipers of the big V8 twin turbo as that is the size of the disk on the thing!

Be carful buying porker calipers!!!

Make sure you get the right ones!!!

993 TT, Big Reds fit as well!

[dalhousie2008]

Hi guys the set I saw for sale I think was off a s2 audi

[T4Rick]

yes porsche 928 calipers work with the S60 disks, not sure what carriers you need?
But they need to be from a Porsche 928 GTS!!!!! all other models of 928 have different brakes the GTS brakes where also called Big Blacks

I know this set up works it on the front of my car!! using DS2500 pads and they work all day long!

I also have the rear S60R 330x28 Disk's using the Porsche Cayenne 4x4 rear calipers of the big V8 twin turbo as that is the size of the disk on the thing!

Be carful buying porker calipers!!!

Make sure you get the right ones!!!

993 TT, Big Reds fit as well!


Hi Greg any chance you could get us all a picture please of your carrier and also brake set up

[GregE102]

Not sure about a pic of the carriers?
But I can get you a pic of the brakes soon!

IPD sell the brackets on their site!
Tim williams made my brackets for all my calipers

[T4Rick]

Im gonna get a hub off an 850 in a few weeks and have a play around with the std 850 calliper and a xc90 disc and some metal and see if i can make some brackets

[dalhousie2008]

Ok contacted a chap called frank (no not about drugs abuse) he is in the halesowen area his contact number is 01384 565300 or 567752

He has in stock audi and vw parts, he has offered to look at the carrier and try and match it up, if thats possible.

Im trying vw he said he would be ale to help with casting numbers from the carriers if they are obtainable.

[T4Rick]

I think ive found something.There is a forum called brickspeed that i stumbled across by pure chance and there is a bloke in the usa with a volvo 242 using s60r discs and mitsubishi evo 8 callipers with adaptors.If this was possible the adaptors would be easy to do.The mitsubishi evo 1-4 calipers fit the volvo s40 its a straight bolt on and the mitsubishi galant vr4 turbo wagon also fit as well also.If it didnt fit im betting something from the mitsubishi family will fit.

[oblark]

Had an email back from a local audi dealer about the audi caliper carriers that fit the 850.

[martybelfastt5]

explain ,lol all them have the 106 centres?

[bash]

Any news on the calipers or caliper carriers ?

[claymore]

You could try Aston Martin / Jaguar, and make your own carriers out of 10mm angle iron :) And XC90 336mm disks.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u258/claymore2k/2013-04-15113326.jpg (http://s170.photobucket.com/user/claymore2k/media/2013-04-15113326.jpg.html)

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[martybelfastt5]

wowsers batman!

[t5 pete]

holy moly thread update 100% not audi 80 coup v6 been today and 96 centres

[kyboy]

Any news on this yet???

[AshDVS]

320mm rotors and calipers from S40/V50T5 AWD & LS-LV Focus ST are a great improvement over the 280 and 302mm 850 and x70 brakes.
The calipers are inexpensive and there isnt much to do to get them fitted.

Here's the 320mm rotor vs the 280mm -

26469

Rotor fitted (requires centrebore to be enlarged to 68mm) -

26470

Caliper fitted -

26471

Test fitting with the adaptor (before coating). Please ignore mismatched fasteners. -

26472

Wheel clearance with a Titan -

26473

[Ettienne]

320mm rotors and calipers from S40/V50T5 AWD & LS-LV Focus ST are a great improvement over the 280 and 302mm 850 and x70 brakes.
The calipers are inexpensive and there isnt much to do to get them fitted.

Here's the 320mm rotor vs the 280mm -

26469

Rotor fitted (requires centrebore to be enlarged to 68mm) -


26470

Caliper fitted -

26471

Test fitting with the adaptor (before coating). Please ignore mismatched fasteners. -

26472

Wheel clearance with a Titan -

26473

Very nice work there, looks a tidy job.

I saw this when the Dutchman did it a few years back. He put dimensions on his thread.

I've made similar, but ended up with 350mm rotor running large (big) piston brembo 4 pots (about twice the size of renault 4 ones), just for extra stopping power, but have to fit under 18s.

[t5 pete]

Cool what do the brackets currently run at shipped to the uk please.

[M-R-P]

Are those Volvo calipers or patterns? They look identical to the ones on my 336mm setup but without "Volvo" stamped on the top.

That aside, if they are the same calipers, the way they stop is exceptional, anybody who hasn't experienced it is in for a pleasant surprise ;)

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g413/martinrpeachey/projects/DSCF0436_zpsaf87f440.jpg (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/martinrpeachey/media/projects/DSCF0436_zpsaf87f440.jpg.html)

[AshDVS]

Not sure if they're the exact same caliper, though the ones in the picture came from an LS-LV Ford Focus ST (XR5 over here) and have FoMoCo cast into the back of them.
The hangers are stamped ATE only and are indentical.

[AshDVS]

The anti-rattle spring youre using looks a little different, it looks like the Audi part instead?

The ones in our caliper pictured above are genuine Volvo parts (and actually came out of a volvo bag, new, this evening).

[M-R-P]

It'll be the same caliper then. The anti-rattle spring on mine is possibly a heavy duty one as the setup comes straight from the XC90.

Bloody good brakes for a bargain price (and almost a direct replacement on my P2 :D )

[AshDVS]

It'll be the same caliper then. The anti-rattle spring on mine is possibly a heavy duty one as the setup comes straight from the XC90.

Bloody good brakes for a bargain price (and almost a direct replacement on my P2 :D )

I just re-read your post. I didnt realise yours were 336mm. Not sure if they're exactly the same if thats the case.
Volvo Part numbers are 36000731 (L) and 36000704 (R) for these.

[M-R-P]

I just re-read your post. I didnt realise yours were 336mm. Not sure if they're exactly the same if thats the case.
Volvo Part numbers are 36000731 (L) and 36000704 (R) for these.

The only difference will be the carriers. The calipers are the same throughout the post 2005 (P2) range and most of the newer C70 and S40/V50 range. The focus ones are just modernised versions, which will also explain the lack of "Volvo" stamped on the caliper.

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g413/martinrpeachey/projects/DSCF0435_zps9a65322b.jpg (http://s1100.photobucket.com/user/martinrpeachey/media/projects/DSCF0435_zps9a65322b.jpg.html)

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[Ettienne]

I suppose an important question would be length of brake hose.

[Ettienne]

I may see if it's possible to pop a lock nut on the back of the counter sunk bolt.

[M-R-P]

Yep - used the hoses from my 305 kit on the 336 conversion. The port on this caliper is slightly closer to the hard pipe than the original, making it fit perfectly.

[dant5r]

Yep - used the hoses from my 305 kit on the 336 conversion. The port on this caliper is slightly closer to the hard pipe than the original, making it fit perfectly.

But your brakes are for a P2 which won't fit on a 850.

[Ettienne]

Here's my 320s under titans the ash dvs kit.

You will need to enlarge your rotors, I have a friend who is sn engineer so wasn't a problem for me but something to bear in mind for less able people.

One point I would make is that the discs shoulder is 4mm ish thicker and worryingly it looked as if only around 6mm of the wheel bolt was holding the wheel on. I replaced them with 35mm wheel bolts (45mm (cut them down) are too long and standard are 29mm) to solve the problem and I havent seen this written in the fitting notes and I know that if I fitted 5mm wheel spacers I'd want longer wheel bolts.

[AshDVS]

Great info on the wheel bolts, we don't believe it to be an issue (unless you want to run a spacer). I'll do some more measuring and look at it further though. Thanks heaps!

[Ettienne]

Great info on the wheel bolts, we don't believe it to be an issue (unless you want to run a spacer). I'll do some more measuring and look at it further though. Thanks heaps!

It is an issue, the disc is 3-4mm thicker where it mounts on the hub, so it acts as a 3-4mm spacer.

I noticed as I only got about 2 full turns on the bolts before they where home tight, if for example using a 5mm spacer I'd use 5mm longer bolts.

I'm using 35mm bolts, rather than 29mm standard.

Mines lowered and I don't get rubbing and no rubbing on full lock with 215/45/17s titans, which can be an issue on standard cars.

[Ettienne]

I also machined my bolts for a perfect flush fit, then tig welded them in place, just to cover all bases.

[AshDVS]

I also machined my bolts for a perfect flush fit, then tig welded them in place, just to cover all bases.

Great work. Excellent attention to detail! What else do you have in mind for the T5R?

[Ettienne]

Just working on the 6sp 855r at mo

[Ettienne]

Been driving the gul more and more and the brakes are very adequate.

Definately more progressive, I've made a similar set up for my 940 which has a lot of servo assistance unlike the 850s so should be good.