Gearbox issue?

[Giles]

What are the likely reasons for the car falling out of reverse and 2nd gear? Basically, when coasting (not under a lot of load) the car suddenly and randomly falls into neutral when in 2nd mainly but has done it in reverse too...

[Volvostorm]

This the 'box with the faulty bearings in it?

[Giles]

This the 'box with the faulty bearings in it?

nope - that has been taken out and this one replaced it for a total cost of £701......

[Giles]

here's the old one

[Volvostorm]

Dropping out of gear is not a good sign, how good was the other box?

[Giles]

Dropping out of gear is not a good sign, how good was the other box?

Not good....made a hell of a racket....was told it was the layshafts (???) so i bought what i thought was a good one......

[Volvostorm]

Might have been worth taking a peek inside the replacement 'box before fitting, bit late now, I know.

[Giles]

Dropping out of gear is not a good sign, how good was the other box?

i know what may be mentioned but I was sold that box as 'all good, no issues' so had it installed. To strip back down and use parts from both boxes and replace is gonna cost me another £702+ oil and that i am not prepared to do anymore. And I am not doing it myself. I have not the knowledge nor the tools.

I either live with it as is......or......do i actually have a 4 letter word carved on my forehead or something........first it was a car worth £300, then an actuator that almost killed my engine, and now a gearbox that's no better than the one i removed?

[Giles]

Unless it is a fitting issue? It's either:

a] fitting issue
b] needs time to settle (as was advised to me)
c] knackered

[Volvostorm]

Ouch, but I feel your pain, I also had a few gearbox problems, and, I haven't even used mine yet!

[Giles]

thing is, the guy who sold me the gearbox is probably gonna be livid when he sees this as a post as opposed to contacting him......but, dont know what options there are short of full refund and payment for fitting (£701)? And that aint gonna happen. It was sold as secondhand (albeit 'good, no issues'), I have no receipt and as far as he knows, it may have been fine in his car.....

I can (and shall have to) live with it, just feel f****d over once again......no disrespect to anyone but this has cost me £3,300 so far and it still aint working and has the same issues......

Through my own selfishness in having this effing car, i have now spent the family holiday fund on it, but that's my issue. Should have stuck with my ****ty Peugeot.

[Volvostorm]

It maybe something like the gear cables need checked, check the free stuff before assuming the worse

[Giles]

It maybe something like the gear cables need checked, check the free stuff before assuming the worse

That's essentially what i am asking with this thread.....but the garage said if it does it in reverse, 2nd and 4th then it's the syncromesh.......i have no idea about 4th tbh as only used it for 3 days.......

If it is the cable, then great :) but things dont look good so far

[Giles]

http://www.zimbio.com/Car+Problem+Diagnosis/articles/-8Y-_WJEB86/Transmission+Jump+Out+2nd+Gear

[Volvostorm]

Run it around, and see what happens

[stu_850t5]

another reason why i got rid of my 850R........was just about to put the 4th gearbox in it when i thought ahhhhhhh sod it..... no more now!

i know exactly how you feel though mate! hope things turn out ok and not too expensive for you!

stu

[Chopster]

but the garage said if it does it in reverse, 2nd and 4th then it's the syncromesh.......

TBH mate your garage hasn't got a clue what they're on about... I hope it was the YTS lad that came out with that useful piece of wisdom, the synco is on each gear and allows the smooth intermeshing of gears :nut:

If you're having problems with 2nd, 4th and reverse then it's the lateral throw from the selector that's not been set up right when re fitting the box. (I'm not sure on these box's just how much adjustment there is, if I get change I'll have a look on mine later)

[si850r]

another quality installation from that company giles (i aint gonna mention who did the 'repair' on here) should of kept well away from them ....Lets just hope they have the honesty to put it right...(but after what they said about mine mate...I wouldnt hold your breath)... just hope yoo can get it sorted with no extra cost to you...

[Chopster]

I had a quick look under the bonnet on mine today and can't really see any adjustment on the box side, most cars have some form of adjustment for the linkages (you might have to do a bit of research on just where it is on the 850's) but did note how the linkage is attached, now it is possible that the nylon bushes that fix the linkage to the box is either worn or damaged thus allowing play or if they've forgotten to to put the horseshoe retaining clip back on or even put it in the wrong slot then it would hinder the pull movement when putting it into 2nd, 4th and reverse.

Don't let them fob you off saying it's a faulty box... it'd deffo just a selector issue.

[Giles]

Did 150 miles today....did not slip out once in any gear.....until i went out later tonight and it jumped out of 2nd again :( I am unsure it's a box or a fitting issue. The guys who did the work have done everything else brilliantly. I doubt it's a dodgy box too as I know the seller is genuine and would not have flogged it knowing...if a fitting issue i will not be impressed as I took their word it was the syncromesh.....further googling suggests syncromesh tho? And a worn linkage.......hope it's the latter :)

[Volvostorm]

Hope its the linkage too mate.

Have you checked the cable ends for worn bushes?

[Giles]

Hope its the linkage too mate.

Have you checked the cable ends for worn bushes?

I aint done anything yet. It's been fine all day until that lapse earlier. TBH, it's not the end of the world, just annoying. I was upset last night and 5 cans dont help either ;) But, hopefully just a niggly thing and may be a knack to it....maybe i have'nt slipped it far enough in (as I'm often told) and just being lazy.......?

[Volvostorm]

Ahhh, lack of movement causes may problems!

Might need to be a bit more forceful with her! ;)

[si850r]

maybe i have'nt slipped it far enough in (as I'm often told):sheep:

I know a good surgeon who could help you out mate...:Handshake

[Giles]

maybe i have'nt slipped it far enough in (as I'm often told):sheep:

I know a good surgeon who could help you out mate...:Handshake

Oh yes? Can you make her actually enjoy it? F****d if I can LOL

[si850r]

just wave the pound notes in front of her should put a smile on the face anyhow .......Oh sorry you ve got none left its all gone on your car....

:hidesbehi lol

[Giles]

just wave the pound notes in front of her should put a smile on the face anyhow .......Oh sorry you ve got none left its all gone on your car....

:hidesbehi lol

haha...nice one....i offered her £20 one year.....didn't go down well.....

[si850r]

:rotfl:you should come to redditch...for twenty quid youll get the ride...and a full cooked breakfast, change for your bus fare home and an appointment at the std clinic....

[Giles]

:rotfl:you should come to redditch...for twenty quid youll get the ride...and a full cooked breakfast, change for your bus fare home and an appointment at the std clinic....

Well i am seeing Pedro tomorrow (swapping actuators, setting up MBC etc). Jeez....for £20 may consider it myself LOL

[si850r]

:emmmmmmm...i ve never been to that area of redditch....but wat ever floats yr boat mate...:daisy:

[si850r]

just dont forget the cream........ lol

[martybelfastt5]

jumping out of second was somthing i noticed on mine a year back slowly turned into a crunch,i fitted a quickshift kit two days back found a worn shifter bush tho i belive there is somthing a bit more serious thats caused this,,my second jump out always happend approaching a turn ect coming down gears as slowing selecting second after the corner when applying power no gear,just revs,had to reselect second

[Giles]

,my second jump out always happend approaching a turn ect coming down gears as slowing selecting second after the corner when applying power no gear,just revs,had to reselect second

this is exactly it....turns mainly......

[si850r]

you need to drive on roman roads then mate......problem solved....

[Mongo]

Try these mate mines the same as urs bit f*****g anoying at times lol

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?index=7&nav=SEARCH&nid=14790510907&itemId=220784636447

[Giles]

Mine is ok now ta....was a settling issue and has not done it for 600+ miles. Either that or i was being lazy putting it in and not going deep enough.....

[JelT5]

Mine is ok now ta....was a settling issue and has not done it for 600+ miles. Either that or i was being lazy putting it in and not going deep enough....

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[Giles]

Pmsl !!!!