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'95R
Friday 29th July 2005, 04:29
I have seen people with 855 roof spoilers on their 854's before, and I am wondering how they mount it to the roof without it comming off at high speeds. I have never seen this done on a car here in the states, so I want to try something "different" :) (at least according to our standards, heh).

Also, another reason I want to do this is because I have have an opportunity to pick up a Carbon Fiber 855 Spoiler for a trade of other stuff I have laying around. Then, if it works out, get an 850R Saloon spoiler in CF as well to match, as long as a CF lip for underneath the front bumper :D

Anyways, I tried searching and didn't find anything, so any info would be helpful! Thanks in advance.

nikgallagher
Friday 29th July 2005, 08:58
Too many spoilers spoil the volvo in my eyes. Would look like you covered your car in glue and ram-raided halfords. Your 850 looks mint as it is mate, I'd leave it be.

'95R
Friday 29th July 2005, 09:32
http://www.raceinorr.com/media/pitetraffen_maj2003/images/DSC05131.JPG
http://www.raceinorr.com/media/pitetraffen_maj2003/images/DSC05130.JPG

That looks awesome in my mind, minus the wheels + exhaust tip being GIANT! I really do like the dual spoiler look though.

mikej
Friday 29th July 2005, 09:43
You would be barking mad to fit an additional spoiler to that motor , its bloody stunning leave it alone or give it to me to look after ! :troutslap

Goof
Friday 29th July 2005, 11:38
:worried: "... exhaust tip being GIANT!" - it looks like mine! :redface:
I think it's standard with the Volvo sports exhaust though, so maybe I'm off the hook? ;)

'95R
Friday 29th July 2005, 12:11
:worried: "... exhaust tip being GIANT!" - it looks like mine! :redface:
I think it's standard with the Volvo sports exhaust though, so maybe I'm off the hook? ;)
:D It just looks like a simple 4" round tip, I just prefer the oval or boxy shape like the factory tip.

But, that's not the focus of this thread. You didn't even express your opinion on the wing setup, FOUL! :cop:

nikgallagher
Friday 29th July 2005, 12:11
The Swedes do have a very individual way of modding their cars. Seen some beauties on here:

http://www.volvo240tic.com/800.html

Personally though, I reckon minimalist is the way to go. I liked your old motor sans boot spoiler actually.

d14vd_h
Friday 29th July 2005, 12:12
Hi Carson, been admiing your car for a while now, guaranteed more than 1 of us has your pics as a desktop hehe
as or the spoilers ives seen this doen on a variety of acrs - normally fords and vauxhalls over here
in my opinion they must bolt it to the roof underneath the headlining i dont see any other way.
if it was my car i wouldnt bother especially with it being cf against the yellow on the roof, i think the black one works because of the single dark colour.
the carbon lip sounds awesome and i would put a later spoiler form an 850r on the back which has a little black lip - the black car in the photos has it - u could then have the small lip carbon fibred - either real stuff or just a film.
its your car and these are my opinions. - u seem a man of taste tho so im sure if it looks crap you'l take it off.
i like the whole dark with yellow thing - other ideas = the dark jewel lights, dipping the wheels to anthracite, carbon fibre decor panel between the lights.
keep us updated and dont stop with the photos.

'95R
Friday 29th July 2005, 12:45
its your car and these are my opinions. - u seem a man of taste tho so im sure if it looks crap you'l take it off.
i like the whole dark with yellow thing - other ideas = the dark jewel lights, dipping the wheels to anthracite, carbon fibre decor panel between the lights.
keep us updated and dont stop with the photos.
I would probably use a strong double sided tape with minimal glue if any at all.

Jewel lights, I plan on keeping my lights plain and simple and Jewels don't quite fall into that category, so I'll probably just e-code lenses to match my turn signals. When I get new tires and have the wheels apart, I will consider powdercoating the wheels in a darker color, but I am not sure, I really do like the Bright Silver finish :) And as for the 855 wing (which may or may not happen), I plan on doing a few other CF pieces around the car. Definately the front lip spoiler, the piece between the taillights (made without a hole for the lock, since I don't use that EVER), and maybe the interior dash kit.

I also appologize for not having any new pictures, I lent my camera to a buddy of mine, and he will have it for a few days as he is doing a cross-country trip (4 day trip!).

Goof
Friday 29th July 2005, 13:53
"... You didn't even express your opinion on the wing setup, FOUL!"

Sorry - forgot that bit ~ I was doing some work (really!) ;)

Opinion:-
First glance it looks rather good! But on careful inspection it looks cr@p.
Not sure whether that's a valid opinion really... ;)

d14vd_h
Friday 29th July 2005, 14:00
be carefull when fitting - as i used strong double sided tape 'body trim tape' and barckets fitted inside the tailagte to maintain the pressure and it flew off on the motorway!!!!!!!!!!
yeah the cf bit between the lights or the decor panel as i call it is awesome!!
keep us updated carson,
no worries bout the pics mate gives my hard drive some breathing space - for now hehehe

MattB
Saturday 30th July 2005, 00:22
be carefull when fitting - as i used strong double sided tape 'body trim tape' and barckets fitted inside the tailagte to maintain the pressure and it flew off on the motorway!!!!!!!!!!


I was just thinking (doesn't happen often!) as to whether double sided tape would be strong enough to hold the spoiler. Guess this answers my question! :slap:

Any suggestions as to other methods of mounting the spoiler?
I'd be interested to know how they have done it.... :shifty:

d14vd_h
Saturday 30th July 2005, 00:35
i'd say it was bonded on with a strong adhesive while something like a bracket or bolt is put through to maintain the pressure

JUDGENINJA
Saturday 30th July 2005, 00:55
Is it me or does that spoiler look like one off a Saxo...It don't look like a Volvo one

MattB
Saturday 30th July 2005, 01:17
Is it me or does that spoiler look like one off a Saxo...It don't look like a Volvo one

:eek:

'95R
Saturday 30th July 2005, 12:04
Is it me or does that spoiler look like one off a Saxo...It don't look like a Volvo one
It really does look like a Volvo 855 spoiler, but that is just what I see...

Now, if I were to do this (still unsure at this moment), which would you vote on in addition to the CF 855 spoiler?

-Keep the factory T-5R boot spoiler on
-Get an 850R boot spoiler and paint it yellow (leaving the black plastic piece)
-Remove the boot spoiler all together

Also, please keep in mind that I will be getting a CF front lip that goes underneath the R bumper so there would be equal distribution among the car (and also the piece that goes between the taillights if I do get the 855 wing) :D

audimadmike
Sunday 31st July 2005, 19:53
Hi 95R,

Leave your car as is, looks good with 1 spoiler, 2 spoilers.....a bit tacky!
The black one looks good but still looks like an add on rather than tasteful standard fit.
And those wheels....nice but ott.
My opinions remember, Mike

TangoDeltaSierra3
Sunday 31st July 2005, 22:27
Dont do it Carson - the car looks sweet as a nut as it is!

'95R
Monday 1st August 2005, 11:07
I really want to do it, I think it would look awesome! I will try to get some pictures with a prototype wing (green wing being held in place :D) just to give a more accurate image to base your decision from.

We held the wing in place to a friends 850 earlier, and I liked the added angle to the roof of the car, gives it some real character.

M44K TS
Monday 1st August 2005, 20:49
The Swedes do have a very individual way of modding their cars. Seen some beauties on here:

http://www.volvo240tic.com/800.html

Personally though, I reckon minimalist is the way to go. I liked your old motor sans boot spoiler actually.


Minimalist is the way forward as you say, and yes you're right, the Swedes do strange things, like this....

http://www.volvo240tic.com/8521.jpg

that is mad!

Oh and '95R, as many people have said, leave the car as close to stock as possible, it looks clean cut that way.

JUDGENINJA
Tuesday 2nd August 2005, 00:19
Just in case you thought I was criticising the Mod. I wasn't.... if you like the look then DO IT....and do not let anyone sway you.
I'm one of the rebelious lot on here who actually like the modified scene (yep there are some of us...)...
There ain't many well modified vehicles I don't like, as long as it's done with professional finished look. I apreciate the time and effort someone has gone to, to individualise their car to make it stand out from the rest.....

'95R
Tuesday 2nd August 2005, 02:51
There ain't many well modified vehicles I don't like, as long as it's done with professional finished look. I apreciate the time and effort someone has gone to, to individualise their car to make it stand out from the rest.....
:bow_kneel <--- You said what I am thinking perfectly :)

I really think that the CF 855 spoiler would look great if mounted properly, which I would do :D

d14vd_h
Tuesday 2nd August 2005, 12:12
if u do it - put the 850r spoiler on the back painted with the black lip remaining - as i said before if u could carbon this it would be class! even in standard black would give a nice distribution of dark bits.
found a carbon composites website the other dqy some cool goodies.
http://www.geminicomposites.com/
do what makes u happy carson
would love to see the preview photos tho!
cheers mate.

Martinr
Tuesday 2nd August 2005, 12:26
I actually like the roof spoiler in the pictures but think it would look better with the boot spoiler removed.

It looks like the 855 spoiler has been modified as the wrap around corners have been removed, if the finish can be retained it should look good.

As to fixing it I wouldn't like to drive a car with bits stuck on by double sided tape! I have never believed the manufacturers claims for these products.

Is there sufficient room with the headlining removed to get screws into the spoiler? Never owned or worked on a saloon, (been thrown out of a few though ;) ) Could the corners of the spoiler be extended on the sides a little so it could attach to the C post?

Anyway, if you like it go for it. Would like to see the pics as well.

vt5
Thursday 4th August 2005, 08:19
Some interesting points of view on this one,

95R, personally i think the double spoiler looks great. I dont think it would look good on not so well finished car, however as Judge says its down to taste and more importantly the finish.

Id say also to leave the lip on the 850R spoiler black. (I did on mine)

As for fitting, id ask a good bodyshop how they would do it. Drilling the roof seems severe but may be the only way, double sided tape wont work !

Perhaps fibreglass to get a nice smooth finish, but ask a bodyshop.

Good luck in your mods

Lee-J-T5
Wednesday 10th August 2005, 22:35
I use polyurethane adhesive every day to stick windscreens into all cars including volvo's, and body shops regularly ask us to bond things like spoilers and trim on using this stuff. It really does work. VW golfs of a certain age have the rear window spoiler bonded to the glass from the factory! When we replace that peice of glass its our job to also re-bond the spoiler on again. I've used it to attach front and rear skirts and a rear window spoiler to the mrs clio with no probs at all. We use a cleaner, then a primer then the adhesive itself. After about 12 hours its un-moveable. When you appreciate it is designed to withstand the force of an airbag deploying against the glass while still holding it in place you can see how it works. In fact the windscreen is now a STRUCTURAL part of most cars, hence the reason for bonding and not stringing-in screens like before.
Anorak rant over! :haha:

TangoDeltaSierra3
Wednesday 10th August 2005, 23:40
I use polyurethane adhesive every day to stick windscreens into all cars including volvo's, and body shops regularly ask us to bond things like spoilers and trim on using this stuff. It really does work. VW golfs of a certain age have the rear window spoiler bonded to the glass from the factory! When we replace that peice of glass its our job to also re-bond the spoiler on again. I've used it to attach front and rear skirts and a rear window spoiler to the mrs clio with no probs at all. We use a cleaner, then a primer then the adhesive itself. After about 12 hours its un-moveable. When you appreciate it is designed to withstand the force of an airbag deploying against the glass while still holding it in place you can see how it works. In fact the windscreen is now a STRUCTURAL part of most cars, hence the reason for bonding and not stringing-in screens like before.
Anorak rant over! :haha:What do they call it, i need some strong stuff as 1 of the arches is coming loose on my Cozzy, i think Sikaflex has been recomended before.

The Flying Banana
Thursday 11th August 2005, 00:34
TDS...in the past i have used an adhesive called Tiger Seal..get it from Partco or the likes...its black and is very very strong....comes in a mastic tube cylinder for a mastic gun.

nikgallagher
Thursday 11th August 2005, 08:20
They glue the wings on most passenger planes thesedays so I reckon a spoiler should be alright! The glue actually cures harder (and tougher) than the surrounding material.

Lee-J-T5
Thursday 11th August 2005, 22:34
What do they call it, i need some strong stuff as 1 of the arches is coming loose on my Cozzy, i think Sikaflex has been recomended before.
We use 'Sikaflex quick cure windscreen adhesive', seems to be much the same stuff as tiger seal and the like. All these adhesives are derived from polyurethane. I have used tiger seal with good results in the past, but never need it now as I have a plentiful supply of windscreen bond. It does wheelarch trims a treat but u need to be sure they are on for good as they dont like coming off again! spolers and stuff arent such a problem as you can get access to the bond to cut it off etc but if its under a wheelarch it can be very difficult to remove without damaging parts.

TangoDeltaSierra3
Thursday 11th August 2005, 23:19
We use 'Sikaflex quick cure windscreen adhesive', seems to be much the same stuff as tiger seal and the like. All these adhesives are derived from polyurethane. I have used tiger seal with good results in the past, but never need it now as I have a plentiful supply of windscreen bond. It does wheelarch trims a treat but u need to be sure they are on for good as they dont like coming off again! spolers and stuff arent such a problem as you can get access to the bond to cut it off etc but if its under a wheelarch it can be very difficult to remove without damaging parts.Well it's supposed to have been done 4yrs ago with Sikaflex but 1 arch is coming away a bit from the wing, enought to allow water to run behind it.

spin
Monday 15th August 2005, 06:01
Minimalist is the way forward as you say, and yes you're right, the Swedes do strange things, like this....

http://www.volvo240tic.com/8521.jpg

that is mad!

Oh and '95R, as many people have said, leave the car as close to stock as possible, it looks clean cut that way.
Is this a proper 2dr S70 or just a one off??

nikgallagher
Monday 15th August 2005, 08:08
It's probably an 850, and the two-door / S70 front seem a popular mod over the water. I do actually think that motor looks nice though.