Johnnytempest's 850.

[Tomcat]

Would have thought that without the tab the bearings could spin and then you've got oil starvation.

[t5 pete]

Would have thought that without the tab the bearings could spin and then you've got oil starvation.

I spoke to the machine shop about the tabs as mine didnt have them even the original shells that came from my engine didnt have them from the factory they said most manufacturers were now using shells with no tabs

[t5 pete]

They should be like this:

Looks to me as if you had the wrong bearings for the rods, I wonder if Wobblys was the same?



http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa477/Rupert_Paterson/RB20DET/IMG_0028.jpg



(http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa477/Rupert_Paterson/RB20DET/IMG_0028.jpg)


I think thats nail on head

[JT]

So is that suggesting oil starvation??

[claymore]

I spoke to the machine shop about the tabs as mine didnt have them even the original shells that came from my engine didnt have them from the factory they said most manufacturers were now using shells with no tabs

I would say that if the rods have slots, you should use tabs, if the rods don't have slots, then no tabs.

[Nealevo]

The rods which I just sold had the tab recess, I was told the shells are a minefield to get the correct one.

[JT]

Where's Jamie when you need him?? Lol

[t5 pete]

I would say that if the rods have slots, you should use tabs, if the rods don't have slots, then no tabs.

In theory thats correct but genuine volvo rods have cut backs but still use shells with no tabs it seem a cross over point for volvo where they were using shells with no tabs but there rods still had the slots.

[Tomcat]

If they have no tabs then how do they not spin and block off the oil access to the bearing? Cant just be relying on friction to keep them in place.

[t5 pete]

If they have no tabs then how do they not spin and block off the oil access to the bearing? Cant just be relying on friction to keep them in place.

Thats what kost manufacturers are relying on tc it must work I honnestly think the people aho are having trouble are either using worn or wrong size shells just look at the ammount of engines running these shells with no problems they also came this way from the factory

[AndysR]

Bad times JT, as previously suggested it's probably a bearing fault. Incidentally which rod bearings were affected? For the record a number of the aftermarket rods available have no locating tabs..

[t5 pete]

These are my genuine Volvo shells that were fitted to my engine from the factory and as you can see theres no tabs there just a smooth shell.
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/IMAG0972_zpsb2762693.jpg (http://s595.photobucket.com/user/t5pete/media/IMAG0972_zpsb2762693.jpg.html)
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/IMAG0971_zps88875d05.jpg (http://s595.photobucket.com/user/t5pete/media/IMAG0971_zps88875d05.jpg.html)

Now here you can see the rod caps and rod did have cut out but obviously not used I have yet to hear any one use shells or sell them with tabs as I was looking for a set of my self but obviously the smooth shells do work.
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/IMAG0970_zpsf5887d6a.jpg (http://s595.photobucket.com/user/t5pete/media/IMAG0970_zpsf5887d6a.jpg.html)


Jt I would recommend taking your rods and crank to a machine shop and let them match the shells for you I didn't purchase my shells through Volvo the machine shop got me all the shells pistons etc that I needed and obviously made sure my crank wasn't worn.
Just saying that have you had your crank inspected for wear?

[FIREBOLT]

The shells locate like any other bearing that you don't want the outer (or inner) to turn, they require an exact, press or interference fit etc. The tabs are just to locate the bearing on assembly they will not stop a bearing from turning/moving if they are incorrectly sized.

Were the internal diameters of the big ends of all the rods checked before assembly?

[JT]

These are my genuine Volvo shells that were fitted to my engine from the factory and as you can see theres no tabs there just a smooth shell.
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/IMAG0972_zpsb2762693.jpg (http://s595.photobucket.com/user/t5pete/media/IMAG0972_zpsb2762693.jpg.html)
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/IMAG0971_zps88875d05.jpg (http://s595.photobucket.com/user/t5pete/media/IMAG0971_zps88875d05.jpg.html)

Now here you can see the rod caps and rod did have cut out but obviously not used I have yet to hear any one use shells or sell them with tabs as I was looking for a set of my self but obviously the smooth shells do work.
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt39/t5pete/IMAG0970_zpsf5887d6a.jpg (http://s595.photobucket.com/user/t5pete/media/IMAG0970_zpsf5887d6a.jpg.html)


Jt I would recommend taking your rods and crank to a machine shop and let them match the shells for you I didn't purchase my shells through Volvo the machine shop got me all the shells pistons etc that I needed and obviously made sure my crank wasn't worn.
Just saying that have you had your crank inspected for wear?

I think you may well be right Pete, which will means a new crank, new shells, new rods
new pistons, rings, head gasket , head bolts etc etc etc

As I posted before..........I think that me done for a while :(

[Tomcat]

Sorry to here it, don't give up though bud, it's sortable even if it takes a while.

[Wobbly Dave]

They should be like this:

Looks to me as if you had the wrong bearings for the rods, I wonder if Wobblys was the same?








My K1 Tech rods did not have a rod big end journal recess. Shells AFAIK didn't have any corrsponding lugs. I am now wondering if I have chosen the wrong rods?

I am going to ensure that my shells are exactly matched. I did wonder when I removed them that the shells were a bit loose inside rod big ends.

[FIREBOLT]

My K1 Tech rods did not have a rod big end journal recess. Shells AFAIK didn't have any corrsponding lugs. I am now wondering if I have chosen the wrong rods?

I am going to ensure that my shells are exactly matched. I did wonder when I removed them that the shells were a bit loose inside rod big ends.

They don't require a recess, if you get the correct size shells to ensure the bearing crush is within the manufacturers specification they will not move. Or sometime the rods need machining to get the correct crush.
Who measured the big ends & spec'd the shells?

[Wobbly Dave]

The engine was assembled at the bottom end of 2012 by a Shropshire based firm. TBH I don't think we'll be reusing any of them - particularly as the crank journal on #2 was ruined. I can't assume that the crank replacing it will be the same. I am using a different firm for this assembly though.

[JT]

small update
and as usual, its good news bad news! lol

I have decided to go back to a standard engine, as I'm told it will be fine up to 1.2 bar of boost and with the lower ratio box, shouldn't produce enough torque to do any damage. Time will tell.

so went on a bit of a road trip yesterday:)

first stop C&G Motor factors, AKA Merc85.
dropped off a fuel rail and picked up 2 drive shafts, been meaning to replace mine since the accident at Avon.

From Merc to Nealevo, to pick up and engine. this standard engine will go in the race car.

from Nealevo up to Coventry, to drop off a cylinder for graemewelch to JamesT5R, only to be given a turbo to bring back for Boostwagon!!
The VPCUK courier service in full swing! lol

Met James and Pedro for a nice chat over a cool beer:)

Back to Pedros to drop off bits for him and pick up a bumper for me.

then head home.

pleasure meeting everyone again:)

so I get home after nearly 500 miles and 120quids worth of diesel! but A good day...........

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0870_zpsb3ca1dc5.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0870_zpsb3ca1dc5.jpg.html)

then comes the bad bit..........

woke up this morning to this:

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0871_zps21eb16a2.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0871_zps21eb16a2.jpg.html)

hoping it wasn't the van, I opened the back doors to find


http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0872_zps1a6b98fd.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0872_zps1a6b98fd.jpg.html)

so I started to get the engine and bits out of the van to reveal the full leakage
it was everywhere!

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0873_zpsefcc9512.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0873_zpsefcc9512.jpg.html)

so after a 4 hour clean up operation, wondering why the leak had happened in the first place, I remembered a certain person removed the dipstick and tube for his own project, leaving it open! oh dear! lol
why there was that much oil in there anyway, I don't know, but nevermind.

anyway, I had a quick play with the bumper.
I like the look of the V70R bumper, so wondered if it would fit the 850

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0875_zps332af165.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0875_zps332af165.jpg.html)

not quite, but a bit of modification here and there and I think that could look good, especially with a TC splitter on it:)

this bumper is to go back, so If anyone hears of 1 available, give me a shout.

cheers JT

[p fandango]

sorry :hidesbehi

[Nealevo]

Oooooooooo that's a lot of oil!!!! Oopppss ;)

[JT]

Well, I've booked a track day for next month,
So need to get that engine in a bit sharpish!
Still thinking about an aftermarket oil cooler, if anyone can recommend one?

[oblark]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-HEALEY-TRIUMPH-MINI-FORD-PEUGEOT-COMPETITION-13-ROW-OIL-COOLER-/400601633941?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d45b7d495

This is the one I`m using :)

[JT]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-HEALEY-TRIUMPH-MINI-FORD-PEUGEOT-COMPETITION-13-ROW-OIL-COOLER-/400601633941?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d45b7d495

This is the one I`m using :)

has it made a difference?

[p fandango]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-HEALEY-TRIUMPH-MINI-FORD-PEUGEOT-COMPETITION-13-ROW-OIL-COOLER-/400601633941?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5d45b7d495

This is the one I`m using :)
From his favourite shop as well lol

[Nealevo]

Well, I've booked a track day for next month,
So need to get that engine in a bit sharpish!
Still thinking about an aftermarket oil cooler, if anyone can recommend one?

You need oil in it first!!

[JT]

You need oil in it first!!

thats ok, theres plenty in the back of the van! lol

[oblark]

has it made a difference?

At this time of the oil cooler just about gets warm so hopefully it will work better in the summer.

[claymore]

I use one off a Saab 95, it's long and thin, so it fits in the bottom intake perfectly:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saab-9-5-Oil-Cooler-/170830983182?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27c651f00e

[smithy]

I use a 19 row oil cooler on the 940

[JT]

I use one off a Saab 95, it's long and thin, so it fits in the bottom intake perfectly:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saab-9-5-Oil-Cooler-/170830983182?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27c651f00e

yea, i suppose chosing the right location to mount it, is another question

[JT]

I use a 19 row oil cooler on the 940

link??

[Jamest5r]

link??

Your having a laugh mate Smithy don't do links unless one of his kids is around :)

[JT]

Your having a laugh mate Smithy don't do links unless one of his kids is around :)

can you sort me out a link???? lmao

[Jamest5r]

can you sort me out a link???? lmao

Nope lol if you got a spare hour or 2 give him a Bell he's on nights :)

[JT]

Nope lol if you got a spare hour or 2 give him a Bell he's on nights :)

I need my sleep!!! lol

[smithy]

I need my sleep!!! lol

You need your bueaty sleep lol .look on ebay under Mocal oil coolers .it is recommended to use a 19 row or above with car over 2.0 and over 300bhp too .

[JT]

You need your bueaty sleep lol .look on ebay under Mocal oil coolers .it is recommended to use a 19 row or above with car over 2.0 and over 300bhp too .

How much?? :shockedbi

[JT]

oil cooler ordered
engine going in this weekend

fingers crossed:B_steerin

[JT]

goodies arrived today :)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0891_zpsd80338eb.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0891_zpsd80338eb.jpg.html)

[smithy]

goodies arrived today :)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0891_zpsd80338eb.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0891_zpsd80338eb.jpg.html)

Nice

[JT]

well I didn't get as far as I wanted at the weekend, only managed a few hours on Sunday.
still....got what's left of the old engine out.
but that's about it.

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0892_zpsfe5ce284.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0892_zpsfe5ce284.jpg.html)

but I did pick up my new oil lines for the cooler today:)


http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0894_zps78fb896a.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0894_zps78fb896a.jpg.html)

[oblark]

The oil lines look good :)

[JT]

a bit more progress today

a bit de-ja-vu????

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0895_zps1d4af5fa.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0895_zps1d4af5fa.jpg.html)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0896_zps3591227d.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0896_zps3591227d.jpg.html)

that's that block ready to come off the frame. :)

[Tomcat]

Glad to see you're making progress.

[M-R-P]

Ahh.. I think I see the problem...

The engine is on the floor mate.

That is all


;)

[JT]

Glad to see you're making progress.

cheers TC, someone with a sensible post:)


Ahh.. I think I see the problem...

The engine is on the floor mate.

That is all


;)

your quite right the engine is on the floor, but the big problem is putting it back!! lol

[t5 pete]

Oooo nice arb

[JT]

cheers Pete

I have the rear one to match:)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/28032011316.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/28032011316.jpg.html)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/28032011315.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/28032011315.jpg.html)

[t5 pete]

cheers Pete

I have the rear one to match:)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/28032011316.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/28032011316.jpg.html)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/28032011315.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/28032011315.jpg.html)

Show off lol

[stribo]

Might sound like a stupid question, but when you change your oil with an oil cooler, how do you get it out, or does the old dirty oil just stay in the cooler and mix with the new oil you put in?

[M-R-P]

You never get all the oil out when you change the oil any way so I can't see it being a problem, especially if the oil gets changed a lot.

[JT]

In my case, the oil never stays in the engine anyway!!

I think I can't quote claymore, when he called it a " rolling oil change!" Lol

[M-R-P]

In my case, the oil never stays in the engine anyway!!

I think I can't quote claymore, when he called it a " rolling oil change!" Lol

Like Pedro's tractor? never had an oil change but it gets a liter every month or so, meaning it's always pretty fresh lmao.

[oblark]

Might sound like a stupid question, but when you change your oil with an oil cooler, how do you get it out, or does the old dirty oil just stay in the cooler and mix with the new oil you put in?

If the aux oil cooler is mounted with the pipe work at the top then no you wont get all the oil out.

But if you mount it with the pipe work at the bottom then when you drain the oil out of the engine it will drain out of the oil cooler

( as long as the oil is hot otherwise the thermostat on the oil feed to the oil cooler from the engine will be closed )

[stribo]

You never get all the oil out when you change the oil any way so I can't see it being a problem, especially if the oil gets changed a lot.

I understand that a small amount of oil stays in the engine when it's drained, but an oil cooler full seems a lot to leave in the system.

[JT]

I understand that a small amount of oil stays in the engine when it's drained, but an oil cooler full seems a lot to leave in the system.

I think the good book of lies, reckons nearly 2 litres of oil stays in the system on a service

only when you take it apart, do you get the rest of it.



made a bit more progress tonight:)

lifted the old engine off the frame

lifted the new(ish) engine onto the frame

removed all the old auxiliary parts, A/C, alternator, power steering pump, dizzy, rotor, coolant pipes, pcv, etc

fitted new rear main seal, fly and clutch.

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0897_zps6b1a7e55.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0897_zps6b1a7e55.jpg.html)

[JT]

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0898_zps151b0dff.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0898_zps151b0dff.jpg.html)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0899_zps91771b25.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0899_zps91771b25.jpg.html)

[oblark]

just out of interest what are you doing with the old engine ??

[JT]

just out of interest what are you doing with the old engine ??

already gone mate, in 2 separate bits, but gone. lol

[oblark]

Bugger, I`m after a unworn block.

[JT]

what happened to the last 1 I gave you and HWSNBN???

maybe after my trackday, I may have another 1 for you! lol

[stribo]

Whilst you have it stripped to that degree, I don't suppose you could take a photo of whereabouts the oil pressure sensor is please.

[oblark]

what happened to the last 1 I gave you and HWSNBN???

maybe after my trackday, I may have another 1 for you! lol

he scrapped it.

[JT]

Whilst you have it stripped to that degree, I don't suppose you could take a photo of whereabouts the oil pressure sensor is please.

I have an adaptor on mine, allowing me to run a oil temp sensor too:)




http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/oil_zps6bf37202.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/oil_zps6bf37202.jpg.html)

[JT]

he scrapped it.


:slap:

[JT]

I'm thinking of removing the oil stat...........

any thoughts???

[Martin-t5r]

Mine has a modded oil stat housing, so it's constantly circulating oil to the front mounted ext cooler

Love this thread btw JT

[JT]

Mine has a modded oil stat housing, so it's constantly circulating oil to the front mounted ext cooler

Love this thread btw JT


liking the sound of that, pm me some details:)

[Jamest5r]

I'm thinking of removing the oil stat...........

any thoughts???

Yep.....one less thing to break :)

[stribo]

I have an adaptor on mine, allowing me to run a oil temp sensor too:)




http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/oil_zps6bf37202.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/oil_zps6bf37202.jpg.html)
Thanks mate, they've hidden that away.

[JT]

I've just taken 1 off this engine, do you need 1??

[stribo]

Yes please.

[JT]

Pm some details and I'll send it out :)

[stribo]

PM sent.

[AndysR]

Nice work so far JT, if I have missed it already I appologise, what has been done to the engine that's going in or is just a standard lump from a known good source that you will run for a bit?

[JT]

Nice work so far JT, if I have missed it already I appologise, what has been done to the engine that's going in or is just a standard lump from a known good source that you will run for a bit?


going standard, wind the boost back a bit and hopefully get some laps in.
If I'm right, it should still push out over 300bhp:)

[JT]

bit more done this afternoon

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0903_zpse75d8b4f.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0903_zpse75d8b4f.jpg.html)

looks like the head has been ported???
not sure if that's a good sign or not??

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0902_zps82fd91e7.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0902_zps82fd91e7.jpg.html)

also tried to remove the oil stat, first attempt didn't end well! lol

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0905_zpse6133528.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0905_zpse6133528.jpg.html)

2nd attempt, much better:)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0904_zps47771019.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0904_zps47771019.jpg.html)

[AndysR]

Nice progress, I guess if it has been ported then that's one less thing you will need to worry about, it does match the gasket well :)

[JT]

Nice progress, I guess if it has been ported then that's one less thing you will need to worry about, it does match the gasket well :)


yea, just worried there might be problem with the engine if someone has already been fettling????

[AndysR]

yea, just worried there might be problem with the engine if someone has already been fettling????

What's the story behind the engine? Did you hear it running before you bought it/did it come from a source well known to you? Just because it's been ported doesn't necessarily mean you need to worry of course ;)

[merc85]

as long as it got the right flywheel fitted JT im sure it will be fine lol ;)

[JT]

What's the story behind the engine? Did you hear it running before you bought it/did it come from a source well known to you? Just because it's been ported doesn't necessarily mean you need to worry of course ;)

I'm sure it was a working engine, but we'll see soon enough
fingers crossed :)

[JT]

as long as it got the right flywheel fitted jt im sure it will be fine lol ;)

ttv:)

[t5 pete]

Good progress is that franks old engine with the white manifold

[stribo]

Good progress is that franks old engine with the white manifold

I think he's still got his white manifold, and I don't think JT wants an engine with a bent rod. ;)

[JT]

Good progress is that franks old engine with the white manifold

nope! :biggrin:

I painted my own

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0518_zps4ab25018.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0518_zps4ab25018.jpg.html)

[JT]

first time! :)


http://youtu.be/YJTKm9mK-Wo

[JT]

unfortunately, the oil stat housing I was messing with, leaks like a teabag! pmsl

so if anyone has one lying around I could buy, that would help:)

[stribo]

Good to see it running, how long will this one be in for? ;)

[JT]

Good to see it running, how long will this one be in for? ;)

how many laps??? lol

[stribo]

how many laps??? lol

You won't get past me next year, I'll have more power, and more importantly better brakes. :lol:

[AndysR]

Well done JT, hopefully it's got a good healthy pull on it when your out on track :)

[JT]

You won't get past me next year, I'll have more power, and more importantly better brakes. :lol:

I was just warming up when I passed you............sadly it was a 1 time deal!! :wallbash: lol


Well done JT, hopefully it's got a good healthy pull on it when your out on track :)

we'll find out on the 21st!
not long to wait :scared:

[AndysR]

I was just warming up when I passed you............sadly it was a 1 time deal!! :wallbash: lol



we'll find out on the 21st!
not long to wait :scared:

Quality! Where are you racing?

[JT]

my local

brands:)

[AndysR]

my local

brands:)

Ah a home from home then, just enjoy it ;)

[Nealevo]

first time! :)


http://youtu.be/YJTKm9mK-Wo

The relief was immense !!!!

[MoleT-5R]

Good luck for the 21st JT, if I wasn,t so far away I'll be there, why did I move to Wales from Sussex, Brands is a long old trot from here.

[JT]

Good luck for the 21st JT, if I wasn,t so far away I'll be there, why did I move to Wales from Sussex, Brands is a long old trot from here.

I would say so, sod that!! Lol

[JT]

well, its all back in one piece, cant wait for Saturday at Brands
it might be wet too, which should add to the fun:)

lets see what happens this time..............

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0926_zpsf18ad7d5.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0926_zpsf18ad7d5.jpg.html)

[AndysR]

Make sure you update us with a run down of the days events :)

[M-R-P]

Nice to see it all back together mate :)

Will you have dash cameras etc?

[JT]

Make sure you update us with a run down of the days events :)


Nice to see it all back together mate :)

Will you have dash cameras etc?

if it lasts longer than the sighting laps, I'll put the camaras on!! lol

[JUDGENINJA]

21 Dec 2013 Brands Hatch Trackday.


http://youtu.be/QtS4Ckz8JR4

[JUDGENINJA]

http://youtu.be/ZXJua6b69Is

[Jim S70R]

Good to see it in action again, how was it??

[JT]

well, the car lives to fight another day:)

made it to Brands yesterday, but the conditions were awful !
the car on the other hand was behaving very well, we didn't have to get any tools out or even top up the fluids!! lol

I noise tested first, 102db limit...............I checked in at 100db, that was close!
followed by some very nervous sighting laps, bear in mind I was on R888's!,checking all temps and trying to get the power down to check boost levels.
all seemed well at this point.

4 runs followed........vids to follow

overall, a good day I thought.
Oil temps are much lower than when we did Trax, so the oil cooler is working well:)

good to see Judge and some other Volvo nutters there too. thanks for coming down:)

the car got the usual attention and I got the usual question......."is it a real touring car?" lol

big thanks to Sam for his help.


I think I need another RR session, to get the fueling sorted out, its a bit rich at the mo
then try a dry day.

maybe just maybe, I could be racing again next year:)

[JT]

http://youtu.be/4Ty9rAa1DGs

[JT]

http://youtu.be/0qHMwLDrt2w

[JT]

http://youtu.be/qfvX-znSSKU

[JT]

http://youtu.be/11uTSruaPNo

[T5frankie]

I think he's still got his white manifold, and I don't think JT wants an engine with a bent rod. ;)

i don't have a white fanimold, you got that back together quick jt

[stribo]

Glad it all went well for you JT, look forward to seeing it running in the New Year.

[AndysR]

Good to see you and the car back in action, despite the weather I bet you enjoyed it. Car sounds great, roll on '14 when there maybe chance of a dry day or 2.. :)

[LiamT4]

Looked a bit damp! Good to see it on the track.

[V70 Graham]

I didn't even know you had her running again, good to see it back on the track.

[JT]

Project 8 racing 2014 Calendar - Provisional



1. 26/27 April – Donington Park National
2. 24/25 May – Rockingham
3. 28 June – Cadwell Park
4. 19 July – Oulton Park International
5. 16/17 August – Brands Hatch GP
6. September / early October – TBC
7. 25/26 October – Snetterton 300

:)

[p fandango]

Donny sound good, & close lol

[JT]

Donny sound good, & close lol

Lazy git! Lol

[smithy]

2014 Calendar - Provisional



1. 26/27 April – Donington Park National
2. 24/25 May – Rockingham
3. 28 June – Cadwell Park
4. 19 July – Oulton Park International
5. 16/17 August – Brands Hatch GP
6. September / early October – TBC
7. 25/26 October – Snetterton 300

:)

Is cadwell open track or club only

[JT]

Is cadwell open track or club only

Sorry mate, just edited my post:(

[p fandango]

7 races isn't alot for a complete season

[JT]

2 races per meet

And I only did 5 meets in my first year iirc?

[stribo]

Is this track days, or competition racing?

[Biff]

Quite fancy oulton park.
What cars race with you? Am I expecting to much when I think of a 90's touring car revival?
Your car is epic btw.

[JT]

Is this track days, or competition racing?

Competition


Quite fancy oulton park.
What cars race with you? Am I expecting to much when I think of a 90's touring car revival?
Your car is epic btw.

Thanks
Mainly bloody beemers, but some other makes now and again :)
http://www.pbmwc.co.uk/P8RS/

[Jamest5r]

I'll be up for a day out at Donny never been, pick me up Duane :)

[Nealevo]

I'll be up for a day out at Donny never been, pick me up Duane :)

Me too...

[stribo]

Competition




Thanks
Mainly bloody beemers, but some other makes now and again :)
http://www.pbmwc.co.uk/P8RS/

I'll try and get along to watch you at Brands

[Jamest5r]

Me too...

What you on about you probably done a 1000 laps there lol

[p fandango]

I'll be up for a day out at Donny never been, pick me up Duane :)
your on the way so can do. Donny is a good spectator circuit as you can see most of the track in you get the right place in the infield


Me too...
your not lol

[JT]

your on the way so can do.....

Your geography is shocking!! Lol

[claymore]

I'll be up for a day out at Donny never been, pick me up Duane :)

Yep, I'll come along to watch.

[JT]

A bit more Rolling Road action today:)

needed to gain control of the boost levels, done by releasing all the preload on the actuator and changing the spring in the recirc valve
and tweek the fuel map,she was a bit rich.

So have gone from 1.5 bar to 1.27 bar of boost (1.3 is the max allowed in my race series)
but with a flick of a switch,1.4 bar:)

running a standard engine now, so 1.2 is really all I need.

1.2 bar
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1190_zps83c3bd5a.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1190_zps83c3bd5a.jpg.html)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1189_zps7c8f3967.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1189_zps7c8f3967.jpg.html)

1.4 bar
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1191_zpsaa32dd65.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1191_zpsaa32dd65.jpg.html)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1192_zps8e1d9789.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1192_zps8e1d9789.jpg.html)

[t5 pete]

Great results

[stribo]

Good figures, and nice smooth graphs, I don't suppose you've got the torque plot have you.

[JT]

Good figures, and nice smooth graphs, I don't suppose you've got the torque plot have you.

on graph 2 and 3, the dotted line:)

[stribo]

on graph 2 and 3, the dotted line:)

Haha, I'd even worked out what torque you'd got before I asked the question, it's been a long day.;)

[AndysR]

342 bhp on a standard engine! Wow thats good going :)

[smithy]

What's the whp mate

[JT]

What's the whp mate
284 :)

[smithy]

284 :)

Nice figuires

[stribo]

What's the whp mate

Glad I'm not the only one who can't see what's right in front of me. :lol:

[smithy]

Yes but I'm looking on my phone ,only had 3 hours sleep and it doesn't say whp in the graph

[stribo]

Well, go to bed then :P

[LiamT4]

342 bhp on a standard engine! Wow thats good going :)

Thats around what dean has isn't it? both standard engines.

[Nealevo]

A bit more Rolling Road action today:)

needed to gain control of the boost levels, done by releasing all the preload on the actuator and changing the spring in the recirc valve
and tweek the fuel map,she was a bit rich.

So have gone from 1.5 bar to 1.27 bar of boost (1.3 is the max allowed in my race series)
but with a flick of a switch,1.4 bar:)

running a standard engine now, so 1.2 is really all I need.

1.2 bar
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1190_zps83c3bd5a.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1190_zps83c3bd5a.jpg.html)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1189_zps7c8f3967.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1189_zps7c8f3967.jpg.html)

1.4 bar
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1191_zpsaa32dd65.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1191_zpsaa32dd65.jpg.html)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1192_zps8e1d9789.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1192_zps8e1d9789.jpg.html)

The engine warranty is now void as you've upped the boost. :)

[JT]

The engine warranty is now void as you've upped the boost. :)

I've dropped the boost, so I think that makes it an extended warranty? Pmsl

[Harvey]

I've dropped the boost, so I think that makes it an extended warranty? Pmsl

So it extended to 3 months or 3 miles then.:eclipsee_

[JT]

So it extended to 3 months or 3 miles then.:eclipsee_

Normally about 3 laps! :uglyhamme

[mitchyboy01]

Fantastic results! Good to see you don't need rods if you have a competent mapper!

[JT]

I was given a few hours of "me" time today, so the question was:

A - wash the van
B - go and fettle with the race car

so off to the garage I went:)

A few small jobs, that needed doing:
adjust the handbrake, after nearly seeing the car roll off the trailer all by itself on Friday! :shockedbi
replace headlight protection, rather than use tape across them, I use an industrial type cling film, works a treat :)
Swapped the front 10mm universal fit spacers with 15mm hub centric ones.

then the big job........rear suspension set up???
the back of the car is very bouncy? If you push down on it and release it just keeps bouncing up and down!
so, off came the springs (520lbs) and were swapped for 450lbs,I then wound up the shocks to full hard, result.......no better:(

wound the shocks all the way soft (some 46 clicks later) and tried again, worse than ever
But when I tried the shocks 15 clicks from soft, some amount of success, its not as firm as the front, but maybe that's good?
I'll find out next Sunday, back to Brands we go again:)

But I have a question.........
while under the car I noticed my Delta link bushes are shot to bits!
obviously I would like uprated versions, but they are expensive, so I thought maybe even swapping them for new standard ones would be better?
If I can find them??? anyone???
and a quick search makes me think they are not easy to change either??? anyone had to change theirs???

cheers

edit: now found a standard bush:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/360684941721?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95&ff19=0

[Shinsplintz 101]

I've got a similar issue on my 850 when the dampers are cranked up to fullhard the car bounces around like a jelly fresh out of the mold. Like you I kept the front hard & softens the rear by about 30%. It's better but not ideal.

Can't speak for your set up by I know my shocks need a refurb (gaz gold coilovers with 20k on them) which should sort out the bump/reboundsl issue. Perhaps look at changing the shocks for newer units & see if that helps?

nice thread btw, enjoyed flicking through it
Cheers, Morgan

[claymore]

I have a similar setup, Hard front, but standard nirvomat springs with stiff dampers, tried the car with harder rear springs, but the car hopped about to much on the back.

[JT]

I've got a similar issue on my 850 when the dampers are cranked up to fullhard the car bounces around like a jelly fresh out of the mold. Like you I kept the front hard & softens the rear by about 30%. It's better but not ideal.

Can't speak for your set up by I know my shocks need a refurb (gaz gold coilovers with 20k on them) which should sort out the bump/reboundsl issue. Perhaps look at changing the shocks for newer units & see if that helps?

nice thread btw, enjoyed flicking through it
Cheers, Morgan


I have a similar setup, Hard front, but standard nirvomat springs with stiff dampers, tried the car with harder rear springs, but the car hopped about to much on the back.

cheers guys,I see we are all thinking the same way about spring rates/dampers, but what about the bushes on the rear???

[stribo]

You mean this one mate?
http://www.partsforvolvosonline.com/product_info.php?products_id=3878

[JT]

your not reading it again!! :hidesbehi

[claymore]

I think PFV sell a removal tool



http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9402

[stribo]

I was given a few hours of "me" time today, so the question was:

A - wash the van
B - go and fettle with the race car

so off to the garage I went:)

A few small jobs, that needed doing:
adjust the handbrake, after nearly seeing the car roll off the trailer all by itself on Friday! :shockedbi
replace headlight protection, rather than use tape across them, I use an industrial type cling film, works a treat :)
Swapped the front 10mm universal fit spacers with 15mm hub centric ones.

then the big job........rear suspension set up???
the back of the car is very bouncy? If you push down on it and release it just keeps bouncing up and down!
so, off came the springs (520lbs) and were swapped for 450lbs,I then wound up the shocks to full hard, result.......no better:(

wound the shocks all the way soft (some 46 clicks later) and tried again, worse than ever
But when I tried the shocks 15 clicks from soft, some amount of success, its not as firm as the front, but maybe that's good?
I'll find out next Sunday, back to Brands we go again:)

But I have a question.........
while under the car I noticed my Delta link bushes are shot to bits!
obviously I would like uprated versions, but they are expensive, so I thought maybe even swapping them for new standard ones would be better?
If I can find them??? anyone???
and a quick search makes me think they are not easy to change either??? anyone had to change theirs???

cheers

edit: now found a standard bush:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/360684941721?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95&ff19=0

You added an edit I didn't see, but answered your question. :P

[JT]

I think PFV sell a removal tool



http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9402

sounds like a nightmare:(


You added an edit I didn't see, but answered your question. :P

cheers mate:)

[stribo]

sounds like a nightmare:(



cheers mate:)

T5Pete doesn't seem to think so:
http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?51478-Project-rust-box-time-to-save-the-gul/page5

[JUDGENINJA]

I know it is not in the same league, but I found running KONI yellows on the front of the 850and standard natural oil free Nivomats..(basically foobar'd ones) were fine for me, but I like a bit of tail happiness, so maybe a stiffer set up would be fun..

[Hybusamini]

Cars looking good m8 mite pop up if im at work donningtons not too far for me

[JT]

T5Pete doesn't seem to think so:
http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?51478-Project-rust-box-time-to-save-the-gul/page5

I'll have a look at that after Topgear :)


I know it is not in the same league, but I found running KONI yellows on the front of the 850and standard natural oil free Nivomats..(basically foobar'd ones) were fine for me, but I like a bit of tail happiness, so maybe a stiffer set up would be fun..

similar set up, stiffer front, softer rears :)

I'd love a set of KWs

[JT]

T5Pete doesn't seem to think so:
http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?51478-Project-rust-box-time-to-save-the-gul/page5

Pete has made that sound easy?? lol

[claymore]

Pete has made that sound easy?? lol

I suppose it is a lot easier if the rear beam is off the car

[JT]

I suppose it is a lot easier if the rear beam is off the car

I think your right, maybe a job to do after Donny

[p fandango]

I think your right, maybe a job to do after Donny
i can see a C70 one creeping back on pmsl

[JT]

i can see a C70 one creeping back on pmsl

that wont be happening !!!:finger:

[p fandango]

that wont be happening !!!:finger:
Think of that extra 5mm pmsl

[JT]

not sure if anyone is still interested in this, after all I haven't cleaned it in ages!?! lol


Went for my final test before the season opener.
car was brilliant!
had a small oil leak, fixed over lunch
and timing my vids last night, matched my PB, which was good as I had the added weight of a passenger + seat.

happy days:)

next stop........Donington



http://youtu.be/nT6MUv8SgVs

[JUDGENINJA]

Big thanks for the invite.... It's One mean machine and the fact we had an oil leak was minor compared to some of the work going on in some garages...

[JT]

Big thanks for the invite.... It's One mean machine and the fact we had an oil leak was minor compared to some of the work going on in some garages...

cheers mate:)

hope you enjoyed it?

shame I spelt your name wrong on the Vid! :slap:

[stribo]

Glad you had a good day mate, was tempted to come down and watch, but the weather didn't look great, and watching isn't enough for me nowadays ;) Hope all goes well at Donny.

[Nealevo]

It must be that not quite standard engine i gave you.... Now without warranty :) when you at Donnington?

[JT]

It must be that not quite standard engine i gave you.... Now without warranty :) when you at Donnington?

ha ha!!

26th April :)

[Nealevo]

That's good, im back home by then, ill come down to watch.

[JT]

cool! :B_thumb:

[Jamest5r]

That's good, im back home by then, ill come down to watch.

Pick.me.up on the way :)

[LiamT4]

ha ha!!

26th April :)

Do you know how much to get in?

[smithy]

not sure if anyone is still interested in this, after all I haven't cleaned it in ages!?! lol


Went for my final test before the season opener.
car was brilliant!
had a small oil leak, fixed over lunch
and timing my vids last night, matched my PB, which was good as I had the added weight of a passenger + seat.

happy days:)

next stop........Donington



http://youtu.be/nT6MUv8SgVs

You car flys mate and that gearbox really makes a difference .no one could catch you and weldone .

[p fandango]

That's good, im back home by then, ill come down to watch.
i'll be there as well, i might speak to you this time lol

[JT]

Do you know how much to get in?

£15

http://www.donington-park.co.uk/events/2014/04/26/gt-and-formula-car-races/


You car flys mate and that gearbox really makes a difference .no one could catch you and weldone .

I forgot to mention the box!
much much better, I love it! :):):)

once up to speed,I was only overtaken by 3 cars all day, 1 of which was an Atom! lol


some nice pics here:
http://www.msvtphotography.com/v/photos/32214bkr/C147940802

[smithy]

£15

http://www.donington-park.co.uk/events/2014/04/26/gt-and-formula-car-races/



I forgot to mention the box!
much much better, I love it! :):):)

once up to speed,I was only overtaken by 3 cars all day, 1 of which was an Atom! lol


some nice pics here:
http://www.msvtphotography.com/v/photos/32214bkr/C147940802
Yes the way your car keeps pulling and doesn't drop on power is very good

[JT]

Yes the way your car keeps pulling and doesn't drop on power is very good

cant wait to get it on a straight! lol

[LiamT4]

Your car looks very well done and it does look quick. Hopefully see you at donny.

[JT]

I could do with a new set of brake pads for the APs

any recommendations??

[stribo]

I could do with a new set of brake pads for the APs

any recommendations??

Don't get the same one's as fitted to my C70. ;) I've got a set of Ferodo DS2500s to go on, but can't tell you first hand what they're like yet. The Brembos on the R perform well.

[JUDGENINJA]

Your probably gonna be better with the High temp pads. You don't need them for slow speed braking.

[JT]

changed the front grill today, but I'm not sure I like it???

any comments?

standard:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1200_zps7ca34653.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1200_zps7ca34653.jpg.html)

new grill:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1209_zps1f1dc30f.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1209_zps1f1dc30f.jpg.html)
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1210_zpsb36090f9.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1210_zpsb36090f9.jpg.html)

and with badge:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1211_zps2e62a356.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1211_zps2e62a356.jpg.html)

[Tomcat]

Think you need to rob that BTCC inspired front bumper off Pedro .. Dont like the grill though...:(

[V70 Graham]

Looks better with the badge.

[p fandango]

get the standard one back on

[claymore]

Quite like the bottom one, but with black mesh

[Wobbly Dave]

if you buy the slash from the old s40 it actually fits properly (and you don't need to cut the ends off) - Just an idea

23990

[stribo]

New grille looks naf IMHO, put the old one back in, the touring cars didn't have mesh. ;)

[p fandango]

the touring cars didn't have mesh. ;)
or painted sailor blue lol

[stribo]

or painted sailor blue lol

Perhaps he's trying to attract sailors. :lol:

[JUDGENINJA]

Standard is best... Why don't you shave a bit off under the Volvo logo under the bumper if you want to increase air flow..

[JT]

Standard is best... Why don't you shave a bit off under the Volvo logo under the bumper if you want to increase air flow..

they did have a moan up about people cutting holes in bumpers and bonnets
its supposed to retain its original silhouette, but I'll have a look anyway:)

[JT]

Not entirely sure my pads should look like this!!! :uglyhamme

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1259_zps97d65813.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1259_zps97d65813.jpg.html)
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1260_zps5e442ba2.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1260_zps5e442ba2.jpg.html)
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1261_zps847c29dd.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1261_zps847c29dd.jpg.html)

[Jamest5r]

Yes it does means your car is actually running :)

[JT]

Yes it does means your car is actually running :)

lmao

[JUDGENINJA]

Not entirely sure my pads should look like this!!! :uglyhamme

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1259_zps97d65813.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1259_zps97d65813.jpg.html)
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1260_zps5e442ba2.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1260_zps5e442ba2.jpg.html)
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1261_zps847c29dd.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1261_zps847c29dd.jpg.html)

Yeah that would be fine for an MOT..!!

[AndysR]

Just caught up, don't mind the grille but needs to have the slash fitted. You should go with the original however as it looks better than the meshed version :)

If you want a bit better air flow why not hollow out the central support behind the grille?

Brake pads look dreadful... Lol

[JT]

replacement pads are on their way:)

I'm told these are more suited to racing and the ones I had are more general purpose??

cant wait, these are gonna be good:)

[p fandango]

the ones I had are more general purpose??
probably the same as the one's i get for £11 lol

[Nealevo]

Not entirely sure my pads should look like this!!! :uglyhamme

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1259_zps97d65813.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1259_zps97d65813.jpg.html)
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bloody hell, i think we found the reason your lap times are slow!!!! Ha ha ha (just a joke, don't hurt me)

[T5frankie]

this looks great

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1211_zps2e62a356.jpg

[theflyingbrick]

I like the mesh with the slash tbh

[stribo]

Not entirely sure my pads should look like this!!! :uglyhamme

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1259_zps97d65813.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1259_zps97d65813.jpg.html)
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1260_zps5e442ba2.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1260_zps5e442ba2.jpg.html)
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That's probably how mine will look when I change them. :D

[JT]

bloody hell, i think we found the reason your lap times are slow!!!! Ha ha ha (just a joke, don't hurt me)

your are right, breaking has not been my strong point,not that I have any! lol


this looks great

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1211_zps2e62a356.jpg


I like the mesh with the slash tbh

Finally:)


That's probably how mine will look when I change them. :D

I think yours will be beyond this! lol

[stribo]

your are right, breaking has not been my strong point,not that I have any! lol







Finally:)



I think yours will be beyond this! lol

I'll post the pics up when I change them, what race pads have you gone for, I'm fitting DS2500s, but obviously mine spends more time on the road.

[JT]

ds3000

mine doesnt spend anytime on the road!
only lasts long enough for a few laps! lol

[stribo]

ds3000

mine doesnt spend anytime on the road!
only lasts long enough for a few laps! lol

TBF you're not getting any younger, you'll probably only last a few laps yourself. :P

[JT]

lets see how long these last :)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1264_zpsfcf28844.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1264_zpsfcf28844.jpg.html)
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[Wobbly Dave]

Ds3000?

[JT]

Ds3000?


correct

[Wobbly Dave]

Should be good - 4 pot calipers?

[siamblue]

correct

Had them on my V70r and they absolutely knackered my Ap discs within 1500 miles and the break dust was as hard as concrete baked onto my alloys.
But boy did it stop..

[JT]

Should be good - 4 pot calipers?

yes 4 pots


Had them on my V70r and they absolutely knackered my Ap discs within 1500 miles and the break dust was as hard as concrete baked onto my alloys.
But boy did it stop..

I'm lucky if I manage 10 miles

but I'm liking your comment:)

[Marsouille]

I like your car !!

What sort of front caliper and rotor do you have please ?

[JT]

cheers

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0170.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0170.jpg.html)

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kit no: CP5200-1005 with grooved discs:)

[stribo]

cheers

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0170.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_0170.jpg.html)

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kit no: CP5200-1005 with grooved discs:)

Not as good as my brakes. ;)

[Marsouille]

kit no: CP5200-1005 with grooved discs:)

Nice brakes !! With Pegasus Replica and no spacers ?

Your tyres are R888 225/45 R17 ?

[JamesT5]

lets see how long these last :)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1264_zpsfcf28844.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1264_zpsfcf28844.jpg.html)
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_1265_zpse05d8002.jpg (http://s1198.photobucket.com/user/johnnytempest/media/IMG_1265_zpse05d8002.jpg.html)

How can brake discs be for race use only, surely race pads will be superior and be exceptional on the road?

[stribo]

How can brake discs be for race use only, surely race pads will be superior and be exceptional on the road?

Because they need to be hot to work properly, and won't get to their working temperature in normal day to day driving.

[JT]

Nice brakes !! With Pegasus Replica and no spacers ?

Your tyres are R888 225/45 R17 ?


Wheels are Titans, I dont need to run spacers with the brakes, but I do have 15mm spacers

215/45/17

[Marsouille]

Wheels are Titans, I dont need to run spacers with the brakes, but I do have 15mm spacers
Yes, Titans :slap:


215/45/17
Same size as my Federal 595 RS-R but I think to go on 235/40.

Do you know the weight of your car ?

[Jamest5r]

JT doesn't worry about weight :)

[p fandango]

JT doesn't worry about weight :)
is he still confined to the diet coke lol

[Nealevo]

Do you know the weight of your car ?

Whatever it is, add approx 130kg with driver :)

[Jamest5r]

Whatever it is, add approx 130kg with driver :)

Oooo harsh lol

[JT]

:ready2go:


100 kg if you must know and going down all the time:)
Yes I'm on the diet coke, although I'm not convinced it's any better than the beer?? Lol

[Engineer]

Good luck with your racing this year its nice to see someone out there in a Volvo on a private budget giving it a go, if the DS3000 don't hack it try the UNO's, I found them better and yes we all know there are better racing pads out there but they are normally double if not more to buy!

I don't do much on the Volvo forums now except on T5D5 were I sometimes quote now and then lol :blahblah:

http://www.ferodoracing.com/products/car-racing/racing-brake-pads/dsuno/

[JT]

timetable for the day:

http://www.msvracing.co.uk/media/309273/timetable_-_26_27_april_donington_2014_issue_four.pdf

[p fandango]

timetable for the day:

http://www.msvracing.co.uk/media/309273/timetable_-_26_27_april_donington_2014_issue_four.pdf
U racing in the toyo tyres racing saloons class?

[JT]

Good luck with your racing this year its nice to see someone out there in a Volvo on a private budget giving it a go, if the DS3000 don't hack it try the UNO's, I found them better and yes we all know there are better racing pads out there but they are normally double if not more to buy!

I don't do much on the Volvo forums now except on T5D5 were I sometimes quote now and then lol :blahblah:

http://www.ferodoracing.com/products/car-racing/racing-brake-pads/dsuno/

cheers
seems like ages ago we we're at the track? lol


U racing in the toyo tyres racing saloons class?

yes mate

[p fandango]

yes mate
Got to be there by 9.05 then, I might have to cancel lol

[JT]

Got to be there by 9.05 then, I might have to cancel lol


result! :)

[p fandango]

result! :)
http://www.argos.co.uk/wcsstore/argos/images/4223924A63UC148788M.jpg

[JT]

only been away from here for a week and have nearly 1000 new posts to read!!! wtf??? lol

anyway, just a little bump for Donny on the 26th
car is all stickered up with club sponsors and ready to go.
hope to see some of you there!:)

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[mitchyboy01]

Looking great JT! Good luck!

[JT]

update................

where to start?

A weekend at Donington Park:)
What a track!! so nice to drive a track I've not been to before.

arrived about 9:30 Friday morning, straight into driver briefing,20 minutes later, out on track!
Friday was a trackday, giving me a chance to learn the circuit which proved to be invaluable.
The weather was a big part this weekend, wet to dry to wet to dry..........

overall very pleased with Friday, a few 'offs' and many lock ups as I got used to the new pads :)

Raceday:

Woke up to find it raining again:(

set up camp at the track and waited for ( pedro to stop fitting go-pros to my car! lol ) qually.......a nervous moment as I had not raced in the wet before, but would Fridays practice pay off???

Lets hope the Go-Pros worked?
I know they didn't for the first race, as I forgot to press the magic button:(
but my camera, worked for once, so once we have sorted out who has what footage, there should be some vids up soon.


A massive thanks again to Sam, who so far this weekend has had about 6 hours sleep! I couldn't do it without you mate :B_thumb:
and to Pedro,Jamest5r and Nealevo for coming along not only to watch, but the guys also got their hands dirty too when I needed it most!

cheers guys, I can't thank you enough :worship:

JT

[Jamest5r]

Jt thanking us in his usual way

http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy185/jamesclancy/DSC_0738_zpswyi4a0mm.jpg (http://s790.photobucket.com/user/jamesclancy/media/DSC_0738_zpswyi4a0mm.jpg.html)

[p fandango]

video from race 2

https://vimeo.com/93036576

[JT]

try and get the vids in order!!! :slap:

lol

[JT's Mechanic]

video from race 2
[video=vimeo;93036576]https://vimeo.com/93036576[video]

Camera angles turned out well! Just need to remember where we put them for next time!

Shame you need a new windscreen John, would hate to "forget" to put that big yellow number back on the new one...

[JT]

the Go-Pro addict probably wont be at the next 1! lol