Johnnytempest's 850.

[JT]

err the hammer technique has been tried! lol
that spare might be usefull! pmsl

[The Flying Moose]

err the hammer technique has been tried! lol
that spare might be usefull! pmsl

No problem, whack it harder then. I cannot believe it wont budge with the circlip removed??? Must have "siezed" in.

[JT]

ok have given it a proper smack and now I definatly need that spare

but its still on! doh!! lol

i'll sort it when i get the engine/box out

cheers

[The Flying Moose]

ok have given it a proper smack and now I definatly need that spare

but its still on! doh!! lol

i'll sort it when i get the engine/box out

cheers

Thats fine mate I have a couple. Not sure what to suggest not other than spray it with WD40 or similar and let it soak overnight aswell.

[JT]

Thats fine mate I have a couple. Not sure what to suggest not other than spray it with WD40 or similar and let it soak overnight aswell.

done all that too??????

[p fandango]

done all that too??????
then may i suggest

http://www.threedonia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/a87_angle.jpg

[JT]

da da daaaaaaa!!

MR GRINDER!! my hero!!!!

pmsl

[JT]

more shopping!!

another 460 miles yesterday, only 55mph average this time! lol

met up with TFM and picked up some goodies!
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/28082011430.jpg
3" TB plus inlet,blue injectors inc rail and a short shifter kit!
2 clear side repeaters and an "R" bumper for Sam's new project, but I'm sure he will reveal all very soon.

cheers TFM and also Pedro for the tea,very nice!:)

[p fandango]

more shopping!!

another 460 miles yesterday, only 55mph average this time! lol

met up with TFM and picked up some goodies!
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/28082011430.jpg
3" TB plus inlet,blue injectors inc rail and a short shifter kit!
2 clear side repeaters and an "R" bumper for Sam's new project, but I'm sure he will reveal all very soon.

cheers TFM and also Pedro for the tea,very nice!:)
you fitted them yet? & nice to meet you & Sam again as always, thanks for dropping the driveshaft down (money will be in the post wednesday Emelyn)

now then Sam, where's your new project thread?

[AndysR]

More little mod's your going to be setting the pace out there on the track very soon!! :)

[JT]

ok, finally got there today.

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011435.jpg


finally revealed the extent of the damge to the subframe

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011437.jpg

couple of questions:
when I finally managed to disconnect the steering, this fell out:

any ideas where it came from and what is it???

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011433.jpg

I put it next to the rule,so you get an idea of the size.
it looks like its been snapped off at the end, not sure this will show that very well.

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011434.jpg

anyway went back to check the chassis and found some strucual damgage:(
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011440.jpg

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011438.jpg
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011439.jpg

I'll get it checked and keep my fingers crossed!

oh just noticed the manifold has a couple of cracks in it too!

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011441.jpg

[JT]

found out where that piece cam from:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011444.jpg

with it in:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011443.jpg

without:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011442.jpg

TFM do you have 1 before you bin ur chassis?

[Jamest5r]

Bloody hell mate and i thought i had problem's. Good luck.

[mitchyboy01]

I am intrigued by this thread now Mr Tempest had just made a purchase from me. Looks interesting!!

[p fandango]

I am intrigued by this thread now Mr Tempest had just made a purchase from me. Looks interesting!!
oh i wonder what he's bought lol

S60R exhaust manifold on the shopping list as wel now then Johnny ;)

[JT]

oh i wonder what he's bought lol

S60R exhaust manifold on the shopping list as wel now then Johnny ;)

As if you didnt know!!! lol

strange thing is........your comment about the manifold doesnt show up on the thread till i quoted you?? weird!!

pm'd you about the manifold

[p fandango]

strange thing is........your comment about the manifold doesnt show up on the thread till i quoted you?? weird!!
that's because i editted it in, must of caught it just as you quote button

[JT]

ahh, trying to catch me out eh? lol

[p fandango]

ahh, trying to catch me out eh? lol
of course lol, you have PM back (thought i'd let you know as the notification system on the forum has gone tits up)

[JT]

ok, so what manifold do I want??
anyone?? lol

[Volvostorm]

The best manifold is the S60R, then ME7.

Both are even better if ported ;)

[AndysR]

Damn shame there appears to be some chassis damage, fingers crossed it's cosmetic.....

[Al115]

oh just noticed the manifold has a couple of cracks in it too!

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011441.jpg

That looks fine. Dremel out the broken stuff. :)

[JT]

More shopping today...........

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/03092011447.jpg

thanks to Volvo

[Tomcat]

Mmmmm nice...

[p fandango]

More shopping today...........

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/03092011447.jpg

thanks to Volvo
you don't want that boot panel, too heavy according to you lol

[JT]

now now, dont start!! lol

[martybelfastt5]

oh it will look a treat with them,,,,,

[Tomcat]

Make sure you paint that grill before you stick it on....

[JT]

paint it?????

[p fandango]

now now, dont start!! lol
got to do something, i'm bored lol

[p fandango]

paint it?????
i think he mean blacken it

[JT]

hmm, i think i need a pic to explain that 1???????

its only a spare anyway! lol

[p fandango]

hmm, i think i need a pic to explain that 1???????
http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=90&pictureid=821
RIP :(

[JT]

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/picture.php?albumid=90&pictureid=821
RIP :(

RIP??

dare I ask??

[p fandango]

RIP??

dare I ask??
another one broken up, ran a 13.9 on the quarter mile

[JT]

another one broken up, ran a 13.9 on the quarter mile

the way things are going, urs and mine will be the only raced ones left and sam's the only standard one left

next year Rodney...................lol

[p fandango]

the way things are going, urs and mine will be the only raced ones left and sam's the only standard one left
the way its going & hardly any 850's left in one piece, our cars might be worth more than the £50 that webuyanycar offer lol

[JT]

we'll have a pretty exclusive club! lol

like a veyron club! pmsl

[volvo]

phew....just got in after a loooooooooooong day! just unloaded an 850R (well what JT left for me!) into storage....get sum kip, early start tomorrow!

Nice meeting up JT...hope you guys got your nephews bumper sorted!

Qady

[JT]

found this this morning........

http://youtu.be/FND9eIyqioA

[p fandango]

found this this morning........

http://youtu.be/FND9eIyqioA
haven't seen that vid before, but have seen the car. Claims to be built from an ex-BTCC car, yet the cage is completely different & no TWR plate (wonder if he got it from ebay lol)

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy196/pedro-fandango/Volvo/BTCC/Interior/988.jpg

[JT]

where the hell did u find that???? lol

it might be a chassis but it aint the real deal
5 stud wheels and the cage is not right either

does look good though!!

[p fandango]

where the hell did u find that???? lol
theirs a big clue in the top left corner of the pic lol


it might be a chassis but it aint the real deal
5 stud wheels and the cage is not right either

does look good though!!
i think theirs as much TWR stuff on your car as he's got lol, i don't think any of it has ever been in a TWR factory

[JT]

that would be a cool race though

the estate vs the saloon!! lol

[AndysR]

the way its going & hardly any 850's left in one piece, our cars might be worth more than the £50 that webuyanycar offer lol

I'm not quite sure your car will ever be in "one peice" Pedro.. Lol


Rear spoiler will look the nuts fitted JT, make sure you do the tip of the spoiler in a gloss black finish..

[JT]

Rear spoiler will look the nuts fitted JT, make sure you do the tip of the spoiler in a gloss black finish..

the spoiler is not for me! :(

[AndysR]

the spoiler is not for me! :(

Ah unlucky...

[JT]

I wonder where thats going???

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/KGrHqUOKoYE33cJUY0oBOJHloQiC_3.jpg

[p fandango]

I wonder where thats going???

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/KGrHqUOKoYE33cJUY0oBOJHloQiC_3.jpg
http://davidmansaray.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/doh-homer-simpson.jpg

[JT]

well not much happening with the car looking like this:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/29082011436.jpg

so I decided ( with a kick from Pedro! lol ) to start putting some of the bits back together.

So with a very kind donation of 2 wishbones from T5 Stealth (thanks mate), I put the polybushes on the those today.
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/10092011456.jpg

I was hoping my new top mounts and AP's would have been here this week, but no joy.
I wanted to get the coilover back together and see how much adjustment the top mounts have, but maybe next week.........

JT

[p fandango]

wow sounds like you had a busy, oh hang on i lied lol

at least its another thing off the list, just pull your finger out tomorrow or your not watching the F1 lol

[JT]

yes mum! lol

[JT]

ok, having been instructed again!! lol

did a bit of weight saving and fitting today

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/11092011457.jpg

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/11092011459.jpg

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/11092011458.jpg

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/11092011460.jpg

the door doesnt fit, nor does the wing!!!:(
the door hinges are bent out of position, so should be an easy fix with a big hammer,
but the wing needs pulling down at the front end,suggesting that front chassis leg has been bent downwards and possibly inwards too..

need to find somewhere with a jig, me thinks.


if anyone wants anything out of the 3rd pic, just shout,if not, it will go in the bin.

JT

[p fandango]

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/11092011460.jpg
does Sam know you've borrowed his panels? lol

fingers crossed a bit of pulling & hammering with the inner wing will sort it out

[JT]

i didn't think he would miss them! lol

[The Flying Moose]

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/11092011458.jpg

if anyone wants anything out of the 3rd pic, just shout,if not, it will go in the bin.

JT

Well if your bining them then ill take the wratchet and pair of plyers... :hidesbehi

[JT]

I was exspecting that from Pedro!! lol

your more than welcome to the ratchet, it sucks and will be going in the bin!!! lol

[The Flying Moose]

I was exspecting that from Pedro!! lol

your more than welcome to the ratchet, it sucks and will be going in the bin!!! lol

Haha, finally beat the master of posting at his own game... all mine Duane all mine!

It is coming along nicely though.

Whats the plans re the colour of the panels? Will it be a panel re-spray, whole car re-spray or a vinyl wrap over the panels?

[JT]

I'm just gonna get the panels repainted in white
(ford transit white!!!!)

and I have a new set of vinyls on the way
will replace both sides as the driver went on a bit wonky after a saturday lunch in the pub!!:)

[the young mechanic]

Well if your bining them then ill take the wratchet and pair of plyers... :hidesbehi

thats what i was about to say

[JT]

Again, not very exciting,but.......

primed a couple of bits today
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/16092011462.jpg
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/16092011463.jpg

[The Flying Moose]

Oh Dear God! Remember that the separate area towards the back of the R Spoiler is meant to be Black ;)

Oh and you missed a bit of your eye cover plastic bit things (excuse vague term no idea what they are called).

[JT]

Oh Dear God! Remember that the separate area towards the back of the R Spoiler is meant to be Black ;)

Oh and you missed a bit of your eye cover plastic bit things (excuse vague term no idea what they are called).

LOL
calm down dear, its only the undercoat!!!!

[JT]

added a little colour today........
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/18092011465.jpg
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/18092011464.jpg

slow progress, but theres no rush.:(

[JT]

Ok,some good news for a change

had someone look over the car this evening and all seems well!!

with the use of a tape measure, it would appear everything is where it should be. so, the panels have been taken away for spraying and I can get on with putting it back together.

JT

[p fandango]

oh good glad to hear it mate

[Volvostorm]

Thats good news, which, I'm guessing is more than can be said about the car that hit you?

[JT]

Thats good news, which, I'm guessing is more than can be said about the car that hit you?

well asyou may or may not be aware, I wasn't in the car and I believe the other vehicle involved was a total right off! :)

just shows you how strong and safe these speedy sweedes are! lol

[p fandango]

I believe the other vehicle involved was a total right off! :)

just shows you how strong and safe these speedy sweeds are! lol
yeh the Civic was righten off & engine put into another shell

[Jim S70R]

That's really good news, even more so to find out that the civic is completey dead!!

[the young mechanic]

finaly some good news

[martybelfastt5]

do the rear spoiler white with blue lip,

[p fandango]

do the rear spoiler white with blue lip,
the spoilers not his, he's not allowed it in his championship (not that something that trivial has stopped him lol)

[JT]

if another 1 comes up, i'll put 1 on and see if I can get away with it!! :)



speaking of which, any chance TC??? lol

[Tomcat]

if another 1 comes up, i'll put 1 on and see if I can get away with it!! :)



speaking of which, any chance TC??? lol

Any chance of what?...

[JT]

lol

making an R rear spoiler of course! :)

[Tomcat]

Ahhh, lmao... Yeah I could do one but I'd need one to take a mould off.

[JT]

pm'd

[p fandango]

pm'd
don't forget to send him your bonnet as well lol

[AndysR]

Glad to hear the car is all straight where it counts, even better news to hear the rice rocket is in hell now!

R spoiler tip really should be a light grey... but that's not to say it would look in black lol

[Tomcat]

Glad to hear the car is all straight where it counts, even better news to hear the rice rocket is in hell now!

R spoiler tip really should be a light grey... but that's not to say it would look in black lol

Is yours Grey Andy?..

[AndysR]

Is yours Grey Andy?..

The rear spoiler tip? Yes the colour is an identical match to the grey around the rear lights on a saloon

Well it was originally anyway ;)

[Tomcat]

Ahh, just wondered. Cheers, dude.

[JT]

A small add on today!

The original wheel position was here:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/20072011380.jpg

then I added camber plates:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/10082011417.jpg

now to bring the wheel back towards the arch, some 30mm spacers!!
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/30092011470.jpg


some pics from below, before:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/30092011468.jpg

and after:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/30092011469.jpg

I like the look, but to see if its a gain or not........thats gonna be a while yet:)

[JT's Mechanic]

Looks much better :)

[JT]

and another update! 2 in 1 day! :)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/30092011471.jpg

[JT's Mechanic]

How well does it all line up?

[Jim S70R]

Looks like it's coming together nicely

[JT]

How well does it all line up?

Not too bad, nothing a big hammer couldn't sort out!


Looks like it's coming together nicely

cheers Jim,
its getting there

[antz]

spacers look wicked dude!

[Jamest5r]

Getting there nicley :)

Anything you need off my mrs 850 before i scrap it?

[p fandango]

Not too bad, nothing a big hammer couldn't sort out!
that ain't a big hammer ya WIMP lol, & glad to see a good home for the ugly wheels (propping the front of the car up lol)

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9869/30092011471.jpg

ps nice to see it going back together again. I haven't got any more wheel bolts, but what about going to studs & nuts?

[JT's Mechanic]

Do they do 'where's wally' competitions? Because I think you'd be in with a shot pedro lol

[JT]

Getting there nicley :)

Anything you need off my mrs 850 before i scrap it?


I believe the only things I'm short of are:

bulkhead polybush( i'll buy a new one)
front engine mount
lambda sensor
and I need to replace the pipe that goes to the clutch slave cylinder

got any of those left??

[JT]

ps nice to see it going back together again. I haven't got any more wheel bolts, but what about going to studs & nuts?

The spacers make it studs and nuts
but the chrome bolts are too big to fit behind the spacer

[p fandango]

The spacers make it studs and nuts
but the chrome bolts are too big to fit behind the spacer
hmm, if only there was a device that could cut them down

http://owens.blogspot.com/agm.jpg

[Kerry_T-5R]

Excellent project - just read every page!

Cheers
Kerry

[JT]

Excellent project - just read every page!

Cheers
Kerry

cheers mate
not all going to plan, but nevermind

did some more bits today:
removed the wonky 850 decal from the driverside
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/04102011478.jpg

then all the decals over the damaged rear arch
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/04102011473.jpg

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/04102011476.jpg

and then cleaned up the rear bumper
from this:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/26072011398.jpg

to this:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/04102011474.jpg

quite pleased with the bumper,I think I can get away without respaying that.:)

[The Flying Moose]

Nice to see its getting back in shape JT, do you think it will be ready for next years racing season?

[JT]

Nice to see its getting back in shape JT, do you think it will be ready for next years racing season?

I would love to get some testing in over winter,
with so many changes and upgrades on the car,she's gonna be a new animal!

So..........yes! I will be racing next year!

fingers crossed! :)

[p fandango]

with so many changes and upgrades on the car,she's gonna be a new animal!
did you get a price for the other engine bits ;)

shame about the rear arch, but the rest has cleaned up well

[JT]

did you get a price for the other engine bits ;)

shame about the rear arch, but the rest has cleaned up well

I havent asked for a price yet as I'm still waiting for the top mounts and AP's due anytime, so saving any funds I have for those.

we think the arch can be beaten out and filled a bit, considering it will get covered in vinyl.so yea, pleased with that:)

[p fandango]

I havent asked for a price yet as I'm still waiting for the top mounts and AP's due anytime, so saving any funds I have for those.

we think the arch can be beaten out and filled a bit, considering it will get covered in vinyl.so yea, pleased with that:)
i thought your brakes & mounts were due almost a month ago now

i'm good with filler lol

[JT]

i thought your brakes & mounts were due almost a month ago now

i'm good with filler lol

Your not wrong! mounts and AP's promised by 5th sept!
here we are in October????????

as for the filler,go for it you cant make it any worse!!! lol

[p fandango]

Your not wrong! mounts and AP's promised by 5th sept!
here we are in October????????
i wish they'd hurry up, you can order me a set of the mounts once i see how good yours are lol


as for the filler,go for it you cant make it any worse!!! lol
i've got the first 2 weeks off in November, i'm away the first week but might have to come & see you the second ;)

[JT]

i wish they'd hurry up, you can order me a set of the mounts once i see how good yours are lol

i've got the first 2 weeks off in November, i'm away the first week but might have to come & see you the second ;)

oh thats nice!! speaking of which, i still haven't paid for the camber plates!
i have tried, but they wont reply to the emails again!! lol

I'm sure we can do something! i'll get the beers in, oops! sorry, i meant the filler!! lol

[Volvostorm]

My AP's arrived later than promised too

[JT]

My AP's arrived later than promised too

please tell me they are worth the wait??

[AndysR]

please tell me they are worth the wait??

Lol, is that a joke! It's night and day and certainly at the top of my wish list.

[JT]

Lol, is that a joke! It's night and day and certainly at the top of my wish list.

I just wish they would turn up!! :lol:

If i dont like them, i'll give you a call!
maybe do a swap?? lol

[Volvostorm]

please tell me they are worth the wait??

Dunno yet, not got them fitted!

You do know they don't fit under certain Volvo rims?

[JT]

Dunno yet, not got them fitted!

You do know they don't fit under certain Volvo rims?


any chance of a pic of what I am getting then?? lol

I was told they will fit under my 17" Titans????

[Volvostorm]

I don't have any pictures to hand, I've only looked at them once myself, they are up the garage.

I'm not sure about which rims fit, I did read it some where, but, I can't remember where!

I'm using TD pro-race 1.2 on mine, well, I will be :P

I have a pdf file for the caliper clearance, if that helps?

[JT]

I cant remember the kit number i'm getting off the top of my head??
i found the same pdf file, although at a first glance looed more like the london underground map!! lol

as long as they fit, and i can stop as quick as hitting a tree, i'll be happy!! :)

[Volvostorm]

Only do 1 kit for the 850's, so I believe

[JT]

i think the same, except I'm told I'm getting grooved discs not drilled??
and then I have a choice of pads??????

[Volvostorm]

I can't remember which discs I have got! I think they are grooved, I might go check next time I'm up the garage!

Pads, mine are more road based..... I think!

[Kerry_T-5R]

as long as they fit, and i can stop as quick as hitting a tree, i'll be happy!! :)

You can check both of those things off then lol. The AP kit was designed to fit under Titans when it was originally produced so you will be fine with fitment. They also fit behind the 17" Volans found on the 850R AFAIK..

Having been in a few cars with ap's (including jc viggens t-5r around the nurburgring on several occasions) you wont be disappointed with the stopping power!.

Kerry

[p fandango]

so with the engine upgrades, suspension that works & not just solid, plus going from factory 302's to racing AP's we can expect to see you on the podium next year :)

[JT]

You can check both of those things off then lol. The AP kit was designed to fit under Titans when it was originally produced so you will be fine with fitment. They also fit behind the 17" Volans found on the 850R AFAIK..

Having been in a few cars with ap's (including jc viggens t-5r around the nurburgring on several occasions) you wont be disappointed with the stopping power!.

Kerry

Cool, I'm looking forward to getting them on the car now! Lol

I was told by the supplier, it was the police who got AP to make them for their cars, because they couldn't slow down in a chase.
How true that is, I dont know?????

[JT]

so with the engine upgrades, suspension that works & not just solid, plus going from factory 302's to racing AP's we can expect to see you on the podium next year :)

Dont forget the 19t,blues,3'' throttle body,short shift kit and if I can find a groupA airfilter, yea I hope to be a lot closer to the front. The 1st two places are pretty much taken, so it leaves the rest of us to fight for 3rd. :)

[Kerry_T-5R]

Cool, I'm looking forward to getting them on the car now! Lol

I was told by the supplier, it was the police who got AP to make them for their cars, because they couldn't slow down in a chase.
How true that is, I dont know?????

1/2 true as the police did complain about the brakes initially. The upgrade volvo produced for the police was the 302 mm brakes that you have fitted to yours, along with a police compound pad - that is why the 302mm brakes exist on some later police 850's. Volvo had to slightly change the design of the columba 16" wheel to have more clearance over the calipers (re-designed wheel was called a "perfo") because the 302 mm's wouldnt fit behind the columba wheel. That is why the police 850's have the 16" 5 spoke perfo's as found on the later S/V70's.

The AP's are a pure performance BBK developed by AP and nothing to do with Volvo AFAIK - they only fit behind 17" wheels and wouldnt fit behind the police 16" perfo.

IMO you have gone for one of the best BBK's for the 850 and I will be getting a set for mine in the not too distant future!

[JT]

IMO you have gone for one of the best BBK's for the 850 and I will be getting a set for mine in the not too distant future!

Cheers,I was told It cant get any better than AP's and as these cars are heavy(mine is 1275Kg,even after stripping it out), braking is an area I need to maximise, so made my choice.

Thanks for the info.

Looking forward to getting back out on track.

[Kerry_T-5R]

Cheers,I was told It cant get any better than AP's and as these cars are heavy(mine is 1275Kg,even after stripping it out), braking is an area I need to maximise, so made my choice.

Thanks for the info.

Looking forward to getting back out on track.

JC's car was also stripped out with coilovers so you must have a similar set up and his was just perfect in the braking department. A few others have stop tech and they are supposed to be just as good but my choice would be the ap's as well!

Sounds good - look forward to seeing your updates!

[p fandango]

Cool, I'm looking forward to getting them on the car now! Lol

I was told by the supplier, it was the police who got AP to make them for their cars, because they couldn't slow down in a chase.
How true that is, I dont know?????
Police got 302's, i did see a marked 855 cop car that had a roll cage & touring car spec bucket seats so wouldn't be surprised if that had got AP's on it

[p fandango]

Dont forget the 19t,blues,3'' throttle body,short shift kit and if I can find a groupA airfilter, yea I hope to be a lot closer to the front. The 1st two places are pretty much taken, so it leaves the rest of us to fight for 3rd. :)
even i didn't know about the filter lol, what make you got?

[JT]

even i didn't know about the filter lol, what make you got?

at the mo, a K&N induction kit,
but want a GROUP A filter

much bigger, more air, blah blah blah lol

[p fandango]

at the mo, a K&N induction kit,
but want a GROUP A filter

much bigger, more air, blah blah blah lol
just bin it, you don't need a filter anyway lol

[JT]

Pmsl

you have proved we do! lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQcy3ZK8rt4&feature=player_embedded

[p fandango]

Pmsl

you have proved we do! lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQcy3ZK8rt4&feature=player_embedded
no, that proves "don't leave a bloody bung in the intake pipe!" lol

[JT's Mechanic]

at the mo, a K&N induction kit,
but want a GROUP A filter

much bigger, more air, blah blah blah lol

Dibs on the K&N :D

[JT]

no, that proves "don't leave a bloody bung in the intake pipe!" lol

PMSL:lol:

[JT]

Dibs on the K&N :D

maybe..........lol

you need to find a group A then!! :)

[p fandango]

you need to find a group A then!! :)
he won't want your K&N then, go buy one Sam & don't tell him where you got it from ;) lol

[JT]

I might just keep those top mounts to myself then!!:nutkick:

lol

[JT]

on a serious note........

a stupid question(probrably),

if I want to remove all 4 calipers from the car, can I drain the fluid and replace it later?
It was suggested to me not to let it run dry, but if its bled properly, surely I can just drain it all out and start again?????

[p fandango]

if I want to remove all 4 calipers from the car, can I drain the fluid and replace it later?
It was suggested to me not to let it run dry, but if its bled properly, surely I can just drain it all out and start again?????
can't see why not, i assume they just didn't want the hassle of bleeding everything

& Sam, get on the look-out for a Group A filter for Johnny ;)

[JT's Mechanic]

I've been looking, does anyone know the size of hose that runs from the air filter to the turbo?

[JT]

I've been looking, does anyone know the size of hose that runs from the air filter to the turbo?

if we're gonna "go silicone", surely it can be anysize, we'll get the size we need????

[JT]

just for the sake of it and to keep my spirits up,
I put some more bits on the car today:)

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/09102011479.jpg

then I started to investigate why the seat seemed to be down on 1 side
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/09102011481.jpg

and found this:
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/09102011482.jpg
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/09102011483.jpg

a crease in the tunnel behind the handbrake:(

figuring the cage runs above that area,fingers crossed its not a problem.
I still think she gonna need a visit to a jig though........ho hum


I'm off to the fridge for multiple lagers! lol

[p fandango]

i think the seat fix is easy, keep off the pies & a bit of exercise won't hurt ;)

i'm sure it'll be alright, probably just needs a bit of strengthening in the floor pan

[Jim S70R]

She's looking good mate.

[Rydell]

Just finished reading this thread from the start. I was referred here from T5D5 where I was asking for info on developing a T5 for racing!

Thought I was being clever doing something nobody else had done! Oh well, found this thread really interesting and loads of useful info on what im currently doing. The car is in the strip down and cage fabrication stage at the moment. I can see it taking a good year to 18 months to finish!

I am looking to enter the Clasisc Sports Car Club future classics series, but the regs appear to be roughly the same as Project 8, so development will probably be pretty close to your car.

I will start a thread shortly.

[claymore]

Just finished reading this thread from the start. I was referred here from T5D5 where I was asking for info on developing a T5 for racing!

Thought I was being clever doing something nobody else had done! Oh well, found this thread really interesting and loads of useful info on what im currently doing. The car is in the strip down and cage fabrication stage at the moment. I can see it taking a good year to 18 months to finish!

I am looking to enter the Clasisc Sports Car Club future classics series, but the regs appear to be roughly the same as Project 8, so development will probably be pretty close to your car.

I will start a thread shortly.
Glad to see you took my advice :), ohh and welcome over

[JT]

Just finished reading this thread from the start. I was referred here from T5D5 where I was asking for info on developing a T5 for racing!

Thought I was being clever doing something nobody else had done! Oh well, found this thread really interesting and loads of useful info on what im currently doing. The car is in the strip down and cage fabrication stage at the moment. I can see it taking a good year to 18 months to finish!

I am looking to enter the Clasisc Sports Car Club future classics series, but the regs appear to be roughly the same as Project 8, so development will probably be pretty close to your car.

I will start a thread shortly.

Welome,

"doing something nobody else had done!" thats sounds farmiliar?? lol
that would be cool to see 2 out there, You building an 854 or 855?

once the cage is in,putting it back together doesn't really take that long,depending on spec of course.

I'll look forward to reading your thread.

JT

[Rydell]

854!
The spec will include:
KW Suspension
Uprated brakes (not sure which way to go yet)
TD Pro 1.2 17" with suitable tyres
Gripper diff
Looking for around 270 - 300bhp
Cage, seat etc
Full 1995 BTCC livery!

dejavou or what

Keep up the good work.

[JT]

854!
The spec will include:
KW Suspension
Uprated brakes (not sure which way to go yet)
TD Pro 1.2 17" with suitable tyres
Gripper diff
Looking for around 270 - 300bhp
Cage, seat etc
Full 1995 BTCC livery!

dejavou or what

Keep up the good work.

all sounds good to me!! lol
Chuck in turbo tuner and you'll get around 280bhp,even as standard!

have you raced before?

[Volvostorm]

1995 they had the estates!

Nice upgrades though, I have them too :)

[p fandango]

1995 they had the estates!
estates were used 1994

[Volvostorm]

Sorry, I got mixedup, mine is a '95 car replicating a '94 car

[JT]

where as mine is a 94 replicating a 95!! :)

[Rydell]

And mines a 95 in bits hoping one day to look something like the 95!:)

Has your race season ended now then JT?

Would be interested to know if you plan any winter testing.

[Rydell]

all sounds good to me!! lol
Chuck in turbo tuner and you'll get around 280bhp,even as standard!

have you raced before?

Not circuit racing as such, but used to sprint a Clio 172 Cup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_iSKcHUYyA&feature=related

If you start at 2:50 it gives you an idea of what sprinting the Clio was like!

[JT]

And mines a 95 in bits hoping one day to look something like the 95!:)

Has your race season ended now then JT?

Would be interested to know if you plan any winter testing.

This year is over for me, only 1 more meeting at Brands on the 12th Nov.
The car wont be ready for that (although I will be there!), but as soon as its back in piece,I'll be testing, dont worry about that! lol

Good Vids,shame about the roll, but thats motorsport!
Your not really a stanger to a race car then,this was my first year,only got my licence the day before my first race! lol
I had better pull my finger out or you'll be off in the distance!:)

[The Flying Moose]

Nearly there mate!

Question... do you need door cards for MOT? Is yours still MOT'd?

[JT]

Nearly there mate!

Question... do you need door cards for MOT? Is yours still MOT'd?

allo mate!

No idea??????
Mine is sorn,so no need for the MOT

why do u ask?

JT

[The Flying Moose]

allo mate!

No idea??????
Mine is sorn,so no need for the MOT

why do u ask?

JT

Cheers

Just wondering... might have a few plans up my sleeve thats all.

Will be revealed at a later stage one decisions made and work carried out ;)

[Jamest5r]

Sorry for the late reply JT, i gave The Moose a couple of spare lamba's i had he might still have one to donate to you :)

[JT]

Cheers

Just wondering... might have a few plans up my sleeve thats all.

Will be revealed at a later stage one decisions made and work carried out ;)

oh no! you cant leave it like that!
spill the beans!!!!!:biggrin:

[Jamest5r]

Cheers

Just wondering... might have a few plans up my sleeve thats all.

Will be revealed at a later stage one decisions made and work carried out ;)


Dont strip the s70 mate i can guess what your thinking lol, do a 855 much better, got the Mrs old one here you can have for scrap value :)

[JT]

what's he up to James???

doesnt he still have a shell?

[Volvostorm]

Can't think of any reason why it would fail for having no door cards, unless the tester thought that the sharp edges would cause a problem, but that only normally on the outside.

[Jamest5r]

what's he up to James???


No idea mate just fishing lol, trying to think like someone in there 20's(which was looong ago for me lol) :)

[JT]

No idea mate just fishing lol, trying to think like someone in there 20's(which was looong ago for me lol) :)

me too, but I like to think i'm still there!! :uglyhamme

[The Flying Moose]

Sorry for the late reply JT, i gave The Moose a couple of spare lamba's i had he might still have one to donate to you :)

I do indeed still have them James, and of course as they were free to me they would be to you JT if required.

Let me know.


oh no! you cant leave it like that!
spill the beans!!!!!:biggrin:

All will be revealed in due course!


Dont strip the s70 mate i can guess what your thinking lol, do a 855 much better, got the Mrs old one here you can have for scrap value :)

James, just wait and see. I may have spoke to you about my plans... I forget in ye olde age ;)

Nevertheless, you are all welcome to enjoy the outcome.


No idea mate just fishing lol, trying to think like someone in there 20's(which was looong ago for me lol) :)

Ok James, whatever, your still young my dear friend! Its not how old you are but how old you feel and how you use the experience you have gained.

As previously mensioned there is a plan in the pipework.

[JT]

I do indeed still have them James, and of course as they were free to me they would be to you JT if required.

Let me know.


Yes please I'll have one of those!

:)

[The Flying Moose]

Yes please I'll have one of those!

:)

No problem PM me your address and Ill send one out later this week for you.

[Jamest5r]

What's with the editing Mr Moose?? woke up and read what you put lol told you before drinking and internet are a dangerous combo strange things start turning up 48hrs later etc :)

[LiamT4]

What's with the editing Mr Moose?? woke up and read what you put lol told you before drinking and internet are a dangerous combo strange things start turning up 48hrs later etc :)

I agree. Plus, you can end up talking utter crap :wink:

[The Flying Moose]

What's with the editing Mr Moose?? woke up and read what you put lol told you before drinking and internet are a dangerous combo strange things start turning up 48hrs later etc :)

Damn, caught out!!!

For whatever reason I logged on after drinking alot after wining a pub quiz, seems I spiel utter nonsense when I drink ;)

[JT]

I had some tyres swapped around today

revealing the damage to the front left
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/15102011484.jpg
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/15102011485.jpg

good news though, the rear left is still round,so only needs a bit of a refurb:)

[Jim S70R]

Nah it's fine alittle clean up and it's ready to go again lol.

[JT]

Nah it's fine alittle clean up and it's ready to go again lol.

there's only 1 place thats going! :tombstone

lol

[Jim S70R]

Might be worth taking it to a metal scrap yard might get Afew quid for it??

[JT]

Might be worth taking it to a metal scrap yard might get Afew quid for it??

yea was gonna take it with the subframe,door and wing too.
not sure they are worth much,but it all adds up:)

[Jim S70R]

Every little helps...

[T4Rick]

Hi where did you get your steering wheel boss from mate

[p fandango]

revealing the damage to the front left
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/15102011484.jpg
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/15102011485.jpg
i'd still prefer to use that instead of Sam's old ugly wheels lol

[JT]

Hi where did you get your steering wheel boss from mate

Hi Rick,

If my memory is correct...

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/Motorsport/Vehicle/Volvo_850_T5_1994_2.3_Turbo/Steering_Wheels_Accessories/1764/46411

[T4Rick]

Nice one mate

[JT]

check it out....the Brands home page,

just scroll down a bit:)

http://www.brandshatch.co.uk/

[Jamest5r]

Think you have a new nick-name now Victor :)

[p fandango]

Think you have a new nick-name now Victor :)
that is brilliant

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/3719/johnnym.jpg

[JT]

shame I wont be racing:(

[p fandango]

shame I wont be racing:(
atleast we can still have a laugh & take the piss out of the Bimmer boys ;)

[AndysR]

That's sweet! :)

[JT]

not all good news though:(

tried to fit the subframe,kindly donated by Pedro, just to see if things would line up???

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/24102011489.jpg

oh dear........

[The Flying Moose]

Really chuffed you got on the brands hatch homepage, proves the effort spent originally on the cars appearance was well worth it.

Shame about the sub-frame, im sure a bit of jiggering will see it fit right.

[Volvostorm]

I hope it will pull, have you got a porta-power?

[JT]

I hope it will pull, have you got a porta-power?

ur gonna have to explain what one of those is!?! :uglyhamme

[Volvostorm]

ur gonna have to explain what one of those is!?! :uglyhamme
One of these mate:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-Ton-Hydraulic-Porta-Power-Tool-Body-Frame-Repair-Kit-/380347292186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item588e771a1a

[JT]

One of these mate:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10-Ton-Hydraulic-Porta-Power-Tool-Body-Frame-Repair-Kit-/380347292186?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item588e771a1a

I like the look of that!!!
not sure i'm qualified to use it though?? lol

cheers mate

[The Flying Moose]

Not a bad price that, I once bought the Clarke version from machine mart for 100 notes.

[p fandango]

not all good news though:(

tried to fit the subframe,kindly donated by Pedro, just to see if things would line up???

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/24102011489.jpg

oh dear........
i'll bring Mr Angle Grinder & my pop-rivet gun, we'll soon get that subframe to fit lol

[JT]

i'll bring Mr Angle Grinder & my pop-rivet gun, we'll soon get that subframe to fit lol

Nooooooooooooooo!

you can keep Mr Grinder at home, nothing more to cut off my car! honest!

lol

[p fandango]

Nooooooooooooooo!

you can keep Mr Grinder at home, nothing more to cut off my car! honest!
are you having a laugh, nothing more to cut. Someone's gone & welded scaffolding bar inside it man, do you know how heavy that is? lol

[JT]

managed to get the car rolling today!

could only push it so far though! lol

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0014.jpg

and the not so good.....

not sure if the camera shows this very clearly,but the O/S front looks ok, but the N/S front looks like its about 75mm to far in???
That is the side that took the main impact.
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0015.jpg
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0016.jpg

anyhow, the car is now ready to be taken away and put on a jig. So everything crossed they can straighten it all out.

[p fandango]

a 75mm wheel spacer on the passenger side will sort it out lol

[T4Rick]

atleast we can still have a laugh & take the piss out of the Bimmer boys ;)


I have a bimmer lol nothing wrong with them

[JT]

finally got around to drilling out the bolts that hold the rad and I/C on today

think I might have found my boost leak!!:wallbash:

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0028.jpg

[p fandango]

if i were you mate i'd leave all the stripping to Sam, because it seems everything you take off is screwed :redface:

looking on the brightside, those Bimmers aren't going to know what hit them (no pun intended) once all the bits are fixed & the new mods in place

[JT]

if i were you mate i'd leave all the stripping to Sam, because it seems everything you take off is screwed :redface:

looking on the brightside, those Bimmers aren't going to know what hit them (no pun intended) once all the bits are fixed & the new mods in place

trying to work out when that happened, maybe my Oulton Park excursion did it?
you did say it didnt sound right afterwards?? lol

yea cant wait to get amongst the front half of the field,nearly did at Oulton too, till I binned it. P12 would have been a great result!!:)

[p fandango]

trying to work out when that happened, maybe my Oulton Park excusion did it?
you did say it didnt sound right afterwards?? lol
quite possible, was it the lower section of the intercooler that was trying to depart? on another note, it was Oulton park we went to then lol


yea cant wait to get amongst the front half of the field,nearly did at Oulton too, till I binned it. P12 would have been a great result!!:)
when is the first race of the new season

[JT]

quite possible, was it the lower section of the intercooler that was trying to depart? on another note, it was Oulton park we went to then lol


when is the first race of the new season

no, thats the top??????????

yes it was Oulton!
you had such a good day you forgot where you went???? lol

as for next year..........not a scooby!

[p fandango]

no, thats the top??????????
quite a few have gone because of bad crimping or the plastic ends cracking, wouldn't say it was anything really to do with the trip thru the kitty litter then


yes it was Oulton!
you had such a good day you forgot where you went???? lol
nope, just been to sleep since then lol


as for next year..........not a scooby!
waste of time ;) lol

[JT]

quite a few have gone because of bad crimping or the plastic ends cracking, wouldn't say it was anything really to do with the trip thru the kitty litter then


nope, just been to sleep since then lol


waste of time ;) lol

speaking of which, hows those rear springs of yours?? lol

[p fandango]

speaking of which, hows those rear springs of yours?? lol
i could answer that, but i'm sure the swear filter would kick-in (not impressed lets put it that way lol). Now the fronts i'm happy with :)

[Tomcat]

Johnny, have you managed to get a replacement front spoiler?.

[JT]

yes mate,this was the car at the weekend.
did you have something in mind?

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0014.jpg

[Tomcat]

Pm'd.

[Jim S70R]

yes mate,this was the car at the weekend.
did you have something in mind?

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0014.jpg

Good to see you found your boost leak, what you going to regarding replacing it, another standard one or a up rated one? good to see the car out in the day light again.

[JT]

Good to see you found your boost leak, what you going to regarding replacing it, another standard one or a up rated one? good to see the car out in the day light again.

Jamest5r kindly donated a standard replacement for me. I will look into and up rated 1 at a later date, unless you have 1 for sale ?
Yea was good to see it back on all 4 wheels, gave me a big shove to crack on and get it finished.

[Jim S70R]

Jamest5r kindly donated a standard replacement for me. I will look into and up rated 1 at a later date, unless you have 1 for sale ?
Yea was good to see it back on all 4 wheels, gave me a big shove to crack on and get it finished.

I wish I did, but if i did it would be in use on mine lol.

[JT]

I know what you mean! Lol

Just had the call, the cars being collected later today to go on the jig.
Fingers crossed! :worried::worried:

[p fandango]

Just had the call, the cars being collected later today to go on the jig.
Fingers crossed! :worried::worried:
did they give any indication how long before they actually get it on the jig? fingers crossed, i think it'll be alright just the leg to straighten a bit

[JT]

over the next couple of days..................

but they didnt sound over busy,hence collection today.
so i'll just have to wait and see

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0034.jpg

[Jim S70R]

over the next couple of days..................

but they didnt sound over busy,hence collection today.
so i'll just have to wait and see

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0034.jpg

Hope it all goes to plan...

[p fandango]

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0034.jpg
i've said it before & i'll say it again, those rear lights look s**t ;)

[Jim S70R]

i've said it before & i'll say it again, those rear lights look s**t ;)

Perhaps after the all clear, you could change to a later rear end??

[JT]

i've said it before & i'll say it again, those rear lights look s**t ;)

I couldnt get to the back of the car to change them!!
and whats the point if its twisted???

if it comes back straight,I'll change them,just for you! lol

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/03092011447.jpg

[p fandango]

I couldnt get to the back of the car to change them!!
and whats the point if its twisted???

if it comes back straight,I'll change them,just for you! lol
it'll be fine, & are you using that grill ;) lol

[JT]

it'll be fine, & are you using that grill ;) lol

it was brought as a spare
maybe something to modify.

do you need 1?

[p fandango]

it was brought as a spare
maybe something to modify.

do you need 1?
i'm stuck with what to do with the grill. I've got a mesh one but not sure what i fancy. Standard one's are too heavy, just messing but thanks

[JT]

i'm stuck with what to do with the grill. I've got a mesh one but not sure what i fancy. Standard one's are too heavy, just messing but thanks

have a chat with sam, he might do you a swap???

[p fandango]

have a chat with sam, he might do you a swap???
its a bit old & showing its age now (the grill) so probably drill more holes in it or something lol

[Jamest5r]

Hopefully it will only need a little tug to the corner :)

You got a race around the midland's next year(Donningon?) would'nt mind coming to have a butcher's

[JT]

Hopefully it will only need a little tug to the corner :)

You got a race around the midland's next year(Donningon?) would'nt mind coming to have a butcher's

cheers mate,lets hope so...

next years calendar hasnt been released yet, but if this years is anything to go by, it will continually change throughout the year anyway.

this year should have had Spa,Donington and another round at Brands....all cancelled! lol
I guess things change.....

I will put a 2012 calendar asap

[Jamest5r]

Would do Donny only 40mins up the road from me, come up the night before and have a few beer's might help the racing :)

[LiamT4]

Hopefully i'll be coming to a few of your races next year.

[Volvostorm]

Donny is about 1.5hrs away from me, I might pop along too.

[JT]

Would do Donny only 40mins up the road from me, come up the night before and have a few beer's might help the racing :)

not sure about that, but it doesn't usually stop me!! lol


Hopefully i'll be coming to a few of your races next year.

be good to see you again, maybe you could come along in BT?? lol


Donny is about 1.5hrs away from me, I might pop along too.

I think a visit to Oulton Park is on the cards, I thought that was a bit closer for you, but dont let that stop you! lol


Thanks again for all the support!

JT

[LiamT4]

Are we allowed to come in the pits on the day?

As long as BTs been tested, then i wouldn't mind - as long as its not windy or it could blow away! lol

[JT]

Are we allowed to come in the pits on the day?

As long as BTs been tested, then i wouldn't mind - as long as its not windy or it could blow away! lol

yea, pits are usually open.

and there I was thinking the chutes on the back of drag cars are there to slow them down..........
now I realise they are there to help them land when the wind gets up!!:B_thumb:

[JT]

Had a pic sent to me today..........

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/IMG_0037.jpg

having never see a jig,that looks like a complicated bit of kit!

as suspected the front left chassis leg is down but the whole leg has also gone backwards.

they are hoping they can pull it out..............

[Tomcat]

Oh that's a sad sight, let's hope it does pull out otherwise it'll be a disaster.

[Jamest5r]

Looking good in a wrong sort of way lol, when they going to pull it?

[JT]

Looking good in a wrong sort of way lol, when they going to pull it?

I haven't spoken to them since,but i assume as its taking up space in the workshop it wont be long

[JT]

ok........................

phone call just came in...........

they have pulled it, but......
its not 100%. to get it 100% would require a new chassis leg or a new chassis.

we are talking 3mm's difference!
so we are good to go, it wont pass an insurance inspection(would need to be 2mm), but I dont care about that! lol

good news me thinks!!

:):):):):)

[p fandango]

excellent news mate, bet you can't wait to get it back & crack on with again now can you

[Jim S70R]

That's good news!!! Now you can change the rear end of your car.....then crack back on with the track action lol ;) ;)

[AndysR]

Excellent news the JT Volvo lives to fight again, now get those rear lights switched and that R spoiler fitted ;)

[JT]

who looks at the back end at a race????? lol
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/5894275543_2bc375d6a0_o.jpg

[p fandango]

who looks at the back end at a race????? lol
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/5894275543_2bc375d6a0_o.jpg
no-one, all the bloody Bimmers are in front (again lol)

[AndysR]

who looks at the back end at a race????? lol
http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/5894275543_2bc375d6a0_o.jpg

Everyone when your in front ;)


Forgot to say you can really see the camber on your rear wheels now looking at the shot of it on the back of the recovery lorry earlier...

[JT]

ok ok!

I get the message! get to the front! lol
:eclipsee_

[Jamest5r]

Top result mate :)

[JT]

Forgot to say you can really see the camber on your rear wheels now looking at the shot of it on the back of the recovery lorry earlier...

yea its proper camber angle!!

looks like they are gonna fall off!! lol

can see it here after it had been loaded up yesterday

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/untitled-1.jpg

[p fandango]

i'm still tempted with the 5degree kit lol

[AndysR]

yea its proper camber angle!!

looks like they are gonna fall off!! lol

can see it here after it had been loaded up yesterday

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/aa454/johnnytempest/untitled-1.jpg

and what angle did you opt for in the end?

Will look miles better with the R spoiler and later lights ;)