19T turbo upgrade

[Giles]

this any good?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220738013843&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[stu_850t5]

ive was thinking about that for my 19t as mines goosed! let me know what its like if you do buy and fit it

[Giles]

he's got good feedback and seems to be genuine......

[stu_850t5]

my choice is re con mine or buy this. what turbo have you got at the moment?

[Giles]

my choice is re con mine or buy this. what turbo have you got at the moment?

Standard 16T ...... but, if it's as simple as the link, should just bolt straight in .... unsure as yet ...... have to think ...... but £340 delivered for a brand new 19T appeals .......

[Giles]

my choice is re con mine or buy this. what turbo have you got at the moment?

How much is it to recon it? Suppose it depends on what needs replacing etc

[Wobbly Dave]

I had a 19 for some years. They are a very capable turbo.

[Giles]

I had a 19 for some years. They are a very capable turbo.

Worth it? Better than a 15G or 16T? If unnoticable then may give it a miss...

[p fandango]

Worth it? Better than a 15G or 16T? If unnoticable then may give it a miss...
very different to a 15g. When i first got my 19t fitted tbh i was disappointed it was very laggy, it gave you a good chunk of power straight away but just kept building up & up with the revs unlike the 15g which gave all it can instantly. Since i've fitted the improved RIP kit & enlarged throttle body luckily i can say it has got as good as the 15g was

[Giles]

very different to a 15g. When i first got my 19t fitted tbh i was disappointed it was very laggy, it gave you a good chunk of power straight away but just kept building up & up with the revs unlike the 15g which gave all it can instantly. Since i've fitted the improved RIP kit & enlarged throttle body luckily i can say it has got as good as the 15g was

hmm......what i want is quick spool up and awesome power from 2,000rpm up to 7,000rpm ....... I have a 16T (aint tried it yet as not picked the car up yet - Lance is patient :) )

[Wobbly Dave]

I'd rate them - takes the bottom end of the power range in RPM up a little - maybe 3000 but with the right map will carry right through to what ever red line you set. I make 305bhp (crank) & only use 0.9 bar.

I will try & find the plot for you, as of last year at HLM's charidy RR day.

[p fandango]

hmm......what i want is quick spool up and awesome power from 2,000rpm up to 7,000rpm ....... I have a 16T (aint tried it yet as not picked the car up yet - Lance is patient :) )
the RIP & throttle body have got it so it spools faster than the 15g now, but yours being an auto means you can't fit the 3" pipes & some people don't like the larger throttle body saying it makes the accelerator too sensitive/jerky

[Giles]

the RIP & throttle body have got it so it spools faster than the 15g now, but yours being an auto means you can't fit the 3" pipes & some people don't like the larger throttle body saying it makes the accelerator too sensitive/jerky

Mine is manual :)

[p fandango]

Mine is manual :)
then you need to update your signature then son, but good on yah lol

[Giles]

then you need to update your signature then son, but good on yah lol

there we are ...... ;)

[p fandango]

there we are ...... ;)
http://www.computertrainingpattaya.com/images/big-tick.jpg
thats better :smile:

[lance]

The 19T is a better turbo than the 16T. Ive quoted below from my expierience.
15G 2000 rpm -5000 rpm is strong particularly at the lower revs but a little flat higher up as standard
16T 2400 rpm-5500 rpm very good between 3000-5500 a remap gives a bit more low down but you still get the most between 2400 and 5500 rpm. Feels more linier more reffined but less low down than 15g so can feel slower off the mark but quicker once rolling.
19T 2700 rpm-6500 rpm mind blowing quick from say 45 -100 mph in 3rd, equally mind blowing 90-130+ in 5th
I went from a 16T to a 19T and my power went from 230 WHP (266 BHP) to 280 WHP (322BHP) You will need a good map to get the best out of it mine was developing standard T5 power at just 3000 rpm (over 200 WHP) Below 2500 rpm she drove like a 16T not that quick but behond that she was in a different league!

[T5frankie]

you left out the 18t's lol

[Wobbly Dave]

you left out the 18t's lol
Here is my graph.

The torque is long & sustained which is great for overtaking. Perhaps not as high a peak as some but bear in mind that this map is still a work in progress - only 0.9 bar.

I couldn't find my 305 read out - so this is the graph prior to the bigger FMIC/injectors going in.

[Wobbly Dave]

Here is the close up. Solid 350NM all the way to 5.5 - by which time the rpm/ momentum carry it through to the red line. Ask those that have ridden in it - there is no sense of it dying off & it is reflected by the high speed through the line in the quarter mile (102 mph)

[lance]

you left out the 18t's lol

Ive never had or driven a car with an 18T just 15g 16T and 19T sorry but I guess its between a 16T and a 19T in characteristics

[t5 pete]

I wounder how the 18t compaires to the 19t weather the 18t also gives to better low down power as well as top end power

[Al115]

I bet it's really hard to tell the difference in real life.

[T5frankie]

having had a 15g a 16t and an 18t soon a 19t, i can say that the 15 was nowhere near as good as the 16 but i can say that there is not much difference between the 16 and 18 when standard

[lance]

19T is a lot better than a 16T but I think the 15g makes a better drag racer than a 16T. I wonder if anyone has done a twin turbo/ twin schroll like on the latest D5s that could be interesting. 12 or 13G then a 19T!

[LiamT4]

Here is the close up. Solid 350NM all the way to 5.5 - by which time the rpm/ momentum carry it through to the red line. Ask those that have ridden in it - there is no sense of it dying off & it is reflected by the high speed through the line in the quarter mile (102 mph)

I can say how quick daves car is. Its such a good power delivery, it just keeps pulling right through the revs (3 people in the car as well). A very quick car.

[smithy]

I can say how quick daves car is. Its such a good power delivery, it just keeps pulling right through the revs (3 people in the car as well). A very quick car.

yes i have to agree daves car is dam quick but my old generation 8v will give him a run for his money though.but daves car is very nice looking too

[LiamT4]

yes i have to agree daves car is dam quick but my old generation 8v will give him a run for his money though.but daves car is very nice looking too

Your old brick looks pretty mean though. :firedevil
If only wobbly could get the damn thing off the line!

[T5frankie]

Your old brick looks pretty mean though. :firedevil
If only wobbly could get the damn thing off the line!

does anyone know his best 60ft time?

[t5 pete]

You only have to look at smithness car hes running a 19t type turbo and really getting good times on the 1/4 mile ide just like to see what the 18t can do

[t5 pete]

does anyone know his best 60ft time?

I know a couple of years ago when me and wobbly raced at york the 15g in myne was much better off the mark than the 19t but as soon as i hit 50mph he went past me like a rocket

[smithy]

Your old brick looks pretty mean though. :firedevil
If only wobbly could get the damn thing off the line!

thanks mate and the car will look the same too this year with the same rims too just a few goodys under the bottom because the car is only slightly modded with 137 bhp lol

[smithy]

I know a couple of years ago when me and wobbly raced at york the 15g in myne was much better off the mark than the 19t but as soon as i hit 50mph he went past me like a rocket

wobbleys car flys when it is in second but it is rubbish in 1st i dont know what he is doing wrong or the map he has got is not setup for launching

[WOODY T5]

You only have to look at smithness car hes running a 19t type turbo and really getting good times on the 1/4 mile ide just like to see what the 18t can do
cheers pete will be hoping for a bit more this year get in to the 13s?

[t5 pete]

cheers pete will be hoping for a bit more this year get in to the 13s?

Hopefully im sure a few cars will easily be in 13's or even less this year with the mods people have done also with the new shell grip at york the launch should be loads better.

[smithy]

Hopefully im sure a few cars will easily be in 13's or even less this year with the mods people have done also with the new shell grip at york the launch should be loads better.

this should make the fwd guys happy with there launches and i will properly leave my diff and prop on the line when i launch lol

[t5 pete]

this should make the fwd guys happy with there launches and i will properly leave my diff and prop on the line when i launch lol

LOL it wil certainly give the fwd a better start than normal

[smithy]

LOL it wil certainly give the fwd a better start than normal

we are going to see some mad 13s this year off alot of you fwd cars .i better get my car running good i dont want to come last in the ranking lol

[p fandango]

we are going to see some mad 13s this year off alot of you fwd cars .i better get my car running good i dont want to come last in the ranking lol
13's pah

[t5 pete]

we are going to see some mad 13s this year off alot of you fwd cars .i better get my car running good i dont want to come last in the ranking lol

lol but with only 137bhp ide be worried but its taking part that counts lol plus you keep adding things so the car keeps getting heavier aswell lol

[t5 pete]

13's pah

Pedro get bt running first lol

[p fandango]

Pedro get bt running first lol
watch this space :wink:

well not actually "this space" because its the wrong thread, but after tonight i've got 6 days off so should be going within then

[LiamT4]

14.5 is my target for this year (with no power starts).

[T5frankie]

12.8 for me still

[smithy]

lol but with only 137bhp ide be worried but its taking part that counts lol plus you keep adding things so the car keeps getting heavier aswell lol

it is the taking part that counts mate and we will see how good 137 bhp can really be at york lol ps sorry for hijacking your thread

[p fandango]

12.8 for me still
you think? whats your current best

[t5 pete]

Ide like low 14's or even in 13's would be better

[T5frankie]

you think? whats your current best

15.0 lol

[p fandango]

15.0 lol
lmao ok then

[LiamT4]

15.0 lol

Not far to go then lol
When you gonna get a time in the saab?

[t5 pete]

frank did you ever run the car at 20psi on the 1/4 mile

[T5frankie]

Not far to go then lol
When you gonna get a time in the saab?

dunno what the point would be really..?

[T5frankie]

frank did you ever run the car at 20psi on the 1/4 mile

yeah that was it a 15.0 at 91mph my car struggles in the last half for some reason but i think it was the cat and now iv de-catted it so.........?

[LiamT4]

dunno what the point would be really..?

Just to see how quick it is, thought you had got it mapped?

[T5frankie]

Just to see how quick it is, thought you had got it mapped?

i bought one had it delivered then found out it was for an auto but still maybe work so put it in and nothing, apparantly the ecu has to be married to the car by a saab specialist with tech2 equpment, so i sold it on i'd rather put the money into my volvo hence my new 19t

[smithy]

i bought one had it delivered then found out it was for an auto but still maybe work so put it in and nothing, apparantly the ecu has to be married to the car by a saab specialist with tech2 equpment, so i sold it on i'd rather put the money into my volvo hence my new 19t

are you coming to york mate i would like to see you beat your personnel best mate

[smithy]

but you will still see the rear end of my car on the track though well i hope anyway .knowing my luck i will proberly pull a 16.5 lol

[Giles]

I may stick with the 16T - doesn't sound like much more of a gain?

[Volvostorm]

I'd like to be driving mine this year! lol

[smithy]

I may stick with the 16T - doesn't sound like much more of a gain?

it depends how much boost you want to run mate the 18t will make the car go very well and keep the torque in because of the small exhaust housing.the 19t has a larger exhaust housing for a 3in downpipe less torque .but if you use your exhaust housing with the 19t compressor you might keep the torque low down the rev range

[Wobbly Dave]

does anyone know his best 60ft time?
2.3 seconds last season. With the quaife/sachs clutch upgrade it will be much better this season.