con rods

[T5frankie]

Anybody got any knowledge of these con rods?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150392774342&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1539wt_1139

[p fandango]

look a very good price but some of the cop-outs within the policies look a bit iffy, using a gmail account makes it look like either a one man band (tho they do have a technical department lol) or a company trying to hide or disappear & move on whenever they feel like it

[T5frankie]

how hard are they to fit with an engine thats already out?

[p fandango]

how hard are they to fit with an engine thats already out?
should be very easy with the engine out, i've seen it done with the block still left in. Have to remove the head & sump to get the con-rods out which should be easier without the subframe to get in the way

[T5frankie]

how about fitting forged pistons?

[p fandango]

how about fitting forged pistons?
they come out with the con-rods, i'm sure i've read standard pistons are fine for about 400bhp

[T5frankie]

they come out with the con-rods, i'm sure i've read standard pistons are fine for about 400bhp

so con rods, big turbo, fueling and mapping for 400bhp?

[smithy]

your dualmass flywheel will not take it put a 850 1 in it ,and your really trying to be top of the tree lol keep trying mate this should be good next season

[GregE102]

Anybody got any knowledge of these con rods?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150392774342&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1539wt_1139

Yes they look ok! but so dose the Mona lisa from a distance!

Personally I would just get a set of rods from Don@kalmar Union or Get a set from THS, Don would be more helpful and i think? don't quote me on this? he supplies some stronger bolts to go with them!

Greg

[T5frankie]

your dualmass flywheel will not take it put a 850 1 in it ,and your really trying to be top of the tree lol keep trying mate this should be good next season

yeah mate can't wait, will a s60/v70r manifold bolt straight on

[smithy]

yeah mate can't wait, will a s60/v70r manifold bolt straight on

yes mate butr get the right 1 the are 2 different types and what turbo you going to use because the is no sense in going to big on the power stakes if you cannot put the power down on the floor ,if i was you go for a very powerful 350 bhp

[T5frankie]

yes mate butr get the right 1 the are 2 different types and what turbo you going to use because the is no sense in going to big on the power stakes if you cannot put the power down on the floor ,if i was you go for a very powerful 350 bhp

what manifold is it i need then mate? thinking about a gt3071

[Jamest5r]

so con rods, big turbo, fueling and mapping for 400bhp?

If your going to strip the engine to that extent mate your gambling on the bores being 100% which im sure they wont be, at least you will need to get them honed, if i was you i would take the block and rods to a pro engine builder and get them to put it together for you. If your going to do it might as well get it done properly.

Heres the link for Don....http://kalmar-union.com/parts/volvo-850_s70_v70_c70-engine/

Spoken to him and seems a really nice bloke, can take a bit of time to get back to you but i belive Tim Williams is running 400bhp on them. Better ask on t5d5 for more info about how's running them.

[T5frankie]

If your going to strip the engine to that extent mate your gambling on the bores being 100% which im sure they wont be, at least you will need to get them honed, if i was you i would take the block and rods to a pro engine builder and get them to put it together for you. If your going to do it might as well get it done properly.

big money big money though mate, you found any pistons yet?

[smithy]

what manifold is it i need then mate? thinking about a gt3071

i would get a gt2871 that will push 400 bhp but as i have said 350 will be enough .something else gt turbos are expensive to rebuild and make sure that it has a metal bearing casing because alot came with plasic 1s.

[T5frankie]

i would get a gt2871 that will push 400 bhp but as i have said 350 will be enough .something else gt turbos are expensive to rebuild and make sure that it has a metal bearing casing because alot came with plasic 1s.

i get the feeling with your advice to keep my power down is just to keep james ahead lol, still need to know what manifold if there is a difference

[smithy]

i get the feeling with your advice to keep my power down is just to keep james ahead lol, still need to know what manifold if there is a difference

fandago has a pick of the manifold you need and i dont need to keep james ahead i think he will do that anyway lol dont forget he is getting a bigger turbo too lol

[T5frankie]

fandago has a pick of the manifold you need and i dont need to keep james ahead i think he will do that anyway lol dont forget he is getting a bigger turbo too lol

lol good i think our cars are a good match at the minute

[Volvostorm]

big money big money though mate, you found any pistons yet?

I've got these in mine now:
http://yhst-26451710505916.stores.yahoo.net/rsituwawhpi.html

Look almost too good to put in the engine! Only thing is, they are 0.5mm oversized, so you will need a rebore

[GregE102]

what manifold is it i need then mate? thinking about a gt3071

Any Garrett will coast you serious money full stop!
And not going down the wrought of what has been suggested to you in, getting it done properly, i.e. strengthened, built properly, not to say you can't do it! but your talking serious power with a Garrett so much so that there is a lot of things that have to be done for it have any longevity!!
I have been in 850's and V70's both with the GT28 & 30 both are mind bogglingly quick and command serious respect! and respect when being built!
I personally if I was you go for a KKK24 with mods to suit and custom map.
you will hit you 350 figure for a couple of grand less

Greg

[Volvostorm]

Any Garrett will coast you serious money full stop!
And not going down the wrought of what has been suggested to you in, getting it done properly, i.e. strengthened, built properly, not to say you can't do it! but your talking serious power with a Garrett so much so that there is a lot of things that have to be done for it have any longevity!!
I have been in 850's and V70's both with the GT28 & 30 both are mind bogglingly quick and command serious respect! and respect when being built!
I personally if I was you go for a KKK24 with mods to suit and custom map.
you will hit you 350 figure for a couple of grand less

Greg

Fair point, I think my engine rebuild has cost about £500 in parts, and £500 in machining, that doesn't include the pistons and rods I have in there, then I have the price of the new turbo, yes, its a Garrett ;)

[smithy]

i can get my garrett for around 750 and that thing can boost to 32 psi lol

[Volvostorm]

The GT28/30 is around £980, then your need a wastegate housing

[T5frankie]

to start me off i will need an s60r manifold yes is this because of the 3" downpipe? i want really 380-400bhp, i want something a little different, a v70r turbo in a v70 r is not extreme enough, i dunno lets see what funds are available in the new year

[p fandango]

you want the S60R manifold purely because its better flowing, the downpipe bolts to the turbo (which bolts to the manifold)

[T5frankie]

you want the S60R manifold purely because its better flowing, the downpipe bolts to the turbo (which bolts to the manifold)

i got told there are two types which do i need mate?

[p fandango]

i got told there are two types which do i need mate?
not sure theirs 2 but the one i got is V30637921, £305 from Rufe

http://www.ipdusa.com/uploads/images_products_large/1855.jpg

[T5frankie]

not sure theirs 2 but the one i got is V30637921, £305 from Rufe

http://www.ipdusa.com/uploads/images_products_large/1855.jpg

and they just bolt straight on with no problems?

[p fandango]

and they just bolt straight on with no problems?
yep, main dealer even fitted mine (plus 19t & Ferrita) with no problem, the only thing they said was one of the bolts didn't line up on the original heatshield

[smithy]

and they just bolt straight on with no problems?

i fitted 1 to my v70 and yes straight bolt on

[T5frankie]

i fitted 1 to my v70 and yes straight bolt on

what boost can a 18t go up to?

[Martin-t5r]

With very careful mapping a 19t should make 350. Don't forget you will want custom feeds with a Garrett

[T5frankie]

With very careful mapping a 19t should make 350. Don't forget you will want custom feeds with a Garrett

ive seen 19t's with 300bhp at 1 bar has anybody turned this turbo up to 1.5 bar?

[smithy]

ive seen 19t's with 300bhp at 1 bar has anybody turned this turbo up to 1.5 bar?

the piping for a garrett is easy to do and you can run a 19t safely 1.4 bar after they start to heat up like the 18ts do also.these turbo where designed to give a big bang at low boost were the garretts are designed to run high boost

[T5frankie]

so if say at 300bhp is at 1 bar what would 1.4 bar reach i like high boost lol

[smithy]

so if say at 300bhp is at 1 bar what would 1.4 bar reach i like high boost lol

the me7 can with 7.5 k rev limit and vvt makes a big difference mate and also its the way the car drives that counts also not always about figuires

[T5frankie]

the me7 can with 7.5 k rev limit and vvt makes a big difference mate and also its the way the car drives that counts also not always about figuires

my car reached peak torque and bhp at only 4000rpms

[smithy]

my car reached peak torque and bhp at only 4000rpms

your car needs checking mate

[T5frankie]

your car needs checking mate

no point just gonna stick that other engine in, then gonna decat the car thinking maybe straight through exhaust as well

[T5frankie]

your car needs checking mate

where should peak bhp be at then?

[smithy]

where should peak bhp be at then?

6.2krpm mate and i had a problem like that is was the injectors

[T5frankie]

6.2krpm mate and i had a problem like that is was the injectors

well remember when my car was standard, you told me at avon that my low terminal speed must be due to having low top end power and it has, but ive changed the injectors since then

[smithy]

well remember when my car was standard, you told me at avon that my low terminal speed must be due to having low top end power and it has, but ive changed the injectors since then

get them checked by jimathan and cleaned aswell because i dont put any injectors in my car unless he has done his thing with them mate

[T5frankie]

the car is fueling lovely mate, the engine is getting worn and losing power, its getting smoky it failed the emissions at the mot,