Professional intercooler spray suppliers

[Justin]

Hi all, i had an interesting email from Andy at Canward racing technologies this evening, and i quote:

"Our newest product being a turbo intercooler spray misting system, this is also available to customers in DIY kit form.


We would also like to offer your website members a 10% discount on all of our products"

Thats a very nice gesture indeed i think, so here is the link.

www.canward.co.uk (http://www.canward.co.uk/)

Let me know if anyone try's it, i would like to see what you think ;)

[Bracer]

That is rude :worship:

I've just put one of them on my X Mass list :eek:

Anyone interested in a Group Buy ?

[monsterdark]

Hmmm sounds interesting

[grumpybob]

I'm interested as well.

Rob

[Bracer]

Ooo this looks like it could be popular.

Who want me to start a list :thewave:

[monsterdark]

Bracer you could be the guinea pig then pass on ur world of knowledge to the rest of us, & yes start the list
:rainfro:

[Bracer]

Bracer you could be the guinea pig then pass on ur world of knowledge to the rest of us, & yes start the list
:rainfro:

Yep I'm up for that :dgrin:

You lot have a whip round and buy me a kit and I'll fit it and tell you what I think :wink:


:hidesbehi

[madness]

can i just say that although i dont want anybody to be put off buying one of these ic spray kits they are banned at the pod . - cos we all know what they do to you if you drop water on their nice sticky rubber surface

dont we justin
:hidesbehi

[Bracer]

can i just say that although i dont want anybody to be put off buying one of these ic spray kits they are banned at the pod . - cos we all know what they do to you if you drop water on their nice sticky rubber surface

dont we justin
:hidesbehi

Yeah we all know there Banned but you will benifit from having one while on the road :wink:

[Justin]

I think Madness is refering to my ic spray, ie the water discharge from my aircon system, 10 mins i had to wait for a few drops of water :eek:

So if your spraying it out you wont be racing at the pod :(

[Bracer]

I think Madness is refering to my ic spray, ie the water discharge from my aircon system, 10 mins i had to wait for a few drops of water :eek:

So if your spraying it out you wont be racing at the pod :(

I would just turn off the IC spray @ the pod :wink:

And how do they get over those people with AC then, do they remind people to keep them switched off ?

[Justin]

No, thats why i had to wait 10 mins, it was 85°F on the day tho FFS:firedevil :rolleyes:

[Bracer]

No, thats why i had to wait 10 mins, it was 85°F on the day tho FFS:firedevil

Thats just plain crazy :crazy: Bet you were well :slap: :wallbash:

[madness]

yep thats the one. aircon i/c spray!! :eek:

[grumpybob]

Got some info from Canward - see below.

Anybody serious about a list??

Rob

"Hi there Rob,

Many thanks for your enquiry.

It would be no problem at all for us to provide you with an intercooler spray system tailored to suit your vehicle.

The fitting of the kit would take you around 60mins, full fitting instructions are provided along with the kit, unless you require us to install the kit for you ?

Am I to assume that you are using the standard intercooler, with no other modifications to the vehicle?

You will certainly notice a massive difference in the cooling efficency of the spray on the intercooler, based on data we have collected from an install recently to an impreza. Certainly in any turbo car such it is of primary importance to keep the intake temperatures as low as possible. This can either be done by fitting a larger intercooler, at a cost of £600+ for a flow rate increase of 20%, or by fitting an intercooler spray system to an existing intercooler, this has been proven to increase flow rates by between 5-9%, at a fraction of the cost of an uprated intercooler. An intercooler spray system is currently fitted as standard by the factory to the Mitsubishi Lancer EVO range of cars.

Our kit has undergone a vigorous development program, it doesnt use "crude" windscreen washer nozzles like some other kits on the market, but actually uses a micro fine misting nozzle, especially designed for this application.

The basic kit retails from £100.00+£4.99 P&P and includes, detailed fitting instructions, three misting nozzles, pump, switching unit, fuses, timer plus all of the cables & tubing required. You do not need to provide any additional parts, just a very basic tool kit.

We would recommend that for your intercooler that you actually increase the number of misting jets to 5, this would be at an additional cost of £25.00.

If you have any further questions then please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best regards

Andy Cannon
www.canward.co.uk
For all your performance needs!"

[Bracer]

Sounds tip top :wink:

[roy chu]

I am up for that, do we have to upgrade the intercooler.

Also the £120, does this require a larger intercooler. And how much would that be??

Sounds good though

Roy

[Pedro Fandango]

if he's done the tests on an Impreza which i believe have a top mounted intercooler which can't be as effective as ours to start with

[Bracer]

No upgrade IC required :thewave:

[canward]

Hi,

The data we obtained was from a Saab 9000 Aero, with a front mounted i/c just like the Saab.

You are correct to assume that any car with an engine top mounted intercooler is likely to benefit more from a spray system.

From sprays fitted to various different makes and models of cars we have seen peformance gains of between 5-10% those with top mounted intercoolers all at the top end of the performance gains.

HTH

Andy

[Bracer]

Hi,

The data we obtained was from a Saab 9000 Aero, with a front mounted i/c just like the Saab.

You are correct to assume that any car with an engine top mounted intercooler is likely to benefit more from a spray system.

From sprays fitted to various different makes and models of cars we have seen peformance gains of between 5-10% those with top mounted intercoolers all at the top end of the performance gains.

HTH

Andy

Well if you want a demo car I'm more than happy to donate SAM :wink:

[canward]

Im sure we could sort out an installation to your car on a demo basis!

[Bracer]

Im sure we could sort out an installation to your car on a demo basis!

I'm liking the sound of this :wink:

[canward]

Without sounding like trying to advertise our product unduly, we have put our development vehicle on the rolling road today, putting our money where our mouth is so to speak !

The figures were very impressive indeed.

We didnt cheat either!, the figures were obtained independently and the intercooler spray run was carried out after the non spray run.

Check out our website for the graphs.

[grumpybob]

Go on Bracer

That sounds like an offer too good to be refused - give us the full rundown.

Rob

[Justin]

So what actual gains were achieved?

I've seen the graphs, power is slightly lower on the sprayed run consistently, but that could be down to temps....?

But at higher RPM its a constant curve with no dips ;)

Cheers

[canward]

Hi

The first run was carried out without any spray being used, the fans were then switched off in the dyno cell, the engine on the car left running for a good 3-4 minutes, allowing obviously a massive amount of heat to build up.

The spray was triggered as soon as the car started moving on the rollers, so yes, the slightly lower reading for the first part of the run could be down to the engine being hot, once the revs increase though the power is considerably more with the spray in operation, with no dips at all in the delivery.

The torque plot is equally impressive too, what shocked me more was over 280lbft right from 2500rpm-5500rpm, with a peak of 320lb/ft.

[Pedro Fandango]

what do you use to activate spray on your kits, is it off WOT or off boost pressure?

[canward]

On our basic spec kit we actually operate the system manually, with an in car switch, which activates a timer circuit, which runs the spray for a pre-determined length of time.

We have looked at all of the other methods of triggering the spray system, such as WOT, most of these are actually too late for the spray to be fully effective, the best method is to actually trigger the spray prior to applying full throttle, so that the intercooler is "cooled" prior to having warmer air passed through it, so we thought the best method was to leave the driver in control of the operation.

However, we are also able to trigger the system by using a boost trigger switch if need be, basically, you specify what you want and we will tailor a system to suit YOUR requirements.

An example of this, we draw the water supply from the existing washer reservoir, but, we also over a bladder reservoir for those that want to keep the water supplies seperate.

[Pedro Fandango]

i've made a basic system myself but need a trigger, how much for just a boost pressure switch (inc p&p)

many thanks Duane

[Bracer]

I think we need to sort the fine details out Canward, like when can you fit :wink:

[canward]

Hi,

No problem, if you email me directly then we can sort something out for you

[Bracer]

Hi,

No problem, if you email me directly then we can sort something out for you

Whats your email then mate ? :wink:

[canward]

Email addy is info@canward.co.uk

[Bracer]

email sent :wink:

[grumpybob]

Any update on this yet, have you got it fitted Bracer?

[hamish]

This sounds fantastic ! there are 2 bits of road that i am thinking of , I don't let the speed drop below 1 mph except for the 30 limits , however this will go on for 30mins. How much water will i need ? because by my calculations an i/c spray would be more use directed at my brakes as per WRC !!

Best Regards,
Hamish.
Hamish Lindsay Motorsport

[Bracer]

Any update on this yet, have you got it fitted Bracer?

Booked in for the 22nd :thewave:

:wink:

[grumpybob]

Alright Bracer

This been fitted yet?

What do you think.

Rob

[Bracer]

Alright Bracer

This been fitted yet?

What do you think.

Rob

I'm actually having these fitted on the 12 of feb, so I'll let you know how it goes

http://www.tvr-3000m.co.uk/canward/images/sixnozzlewater.jpg

6 Misting Nozzle timer system (large intercoolers), complete with, 6 misting nozzles, spray timing box, in car switch, pump, tubing, cabling, fuse & fuse holder & mounting plates, comes complete with 2.25 litre bladder reservoir and adjustable boost switch.

And

http://www.tvr-3000m.co.uk/canward/images/waterinjectionkit.jpg

Deluxe High Performance Dual Stage Kit 100psi pump, water solenoid, 2 brass injectors, low profile injector holders, low profile brass fittings, adjustable boost pressure switch, 25ft high psi water hose, all other fixings and fittings for kit.

[grumpybob]

Top class

Do you reckon you need both - I would have though the water injection would have been enough.

That's another thing on the list to look into - but been put off by the £300-400 costs. Have seen a couple of good ones on ebay going for just over £120 but missed out. Results will be v.interesting as I think there was plenty discussion on the other T5 forum and people thinking that water injection wasn't that efficient or required on T5s.

Have you got a air charge temp gauge on your motor? i had one on the previous Rover Tomcat and it was v.ineteresting watching the temps go through the roof when you were giving it some shoe. Should have got one bfore the RICA for before and after comparisons but hey ho..

Rob