Oh dear...

[JelT5]

Had some smokey issues today which is pretty disappointing; also used half a litre of oil in just over 600 miles since I bought the car...hoping it's just a turbo return pipe problem and not an engine rebuild needed!
Obviously this wasn't visible when I looked at the car- maybe a bit coked up I guess...

*sighs*

Will be looking into it more deeply over the next month or so. Not too bothered if it's the turbo as I'm planning on an 18T or 19T in June anyway, but will be a tad peeved if it's a rebuild required :mad111:

[p fandango]

the oil return normally drips, i'd see about the PCV mate

[JelT5]

Hadn't thought about that mate- test is to remove dipstick when engine is running and check for smoke yeah?

[sen]

Hadn't thought about that mate- test is to remove dipstick when engine is running and check for smoke yeah?

Correct when up to temperature of course is best. Good luck with it

[JelT5]

Turbo oil seals? Seems to be a common problem.

[Flatout Phil]

Funny you should mention this, but when I followed you for a bit and you booted it, there was a puff of smoke - PCV I suspect

[JelT5]

Funny you should mention this, but when I followed you for a bit and you booted it, there was a puff of smoke - PCV I suspect

And you didn't say anything you git??? :D :D :D

Just did the dipstick test and it's pointing at an unwell PCV Phil.
Will be ordering bits and doing asap :)

I'm sure all will be well very soon!

[JelT5]

Quick update on this...I was being a divvy yesterday, checked the oil level again this morning when COLD and virtually none used

*hangs head in shame*

I panicked a bit when I saw the smoke and jumped to conclusions before checking properly, which is :pants:

So can really only be PCV valve/ system at fault. Will duly be replaced.

Thanks for all the input fellas :)

[danny-R]

Quick update on this...I was being a divvy yesterday, checked the oil level again this morning when COLD and virtually none used

*hangs head in shame*

I panicked a bit when I saw the smoke and jumped to conclusions before checking properly, which is :pants:

So can really only be PCV valve/ system at fault. Will duly be replaced.

Thanks for all the input fellas :)

hope you get it sorted, i've changed turbo and pcv and mine's still smoking when warmed up and idleing.

how does it compare to the v70 so far? apart from it's miles better looking

[JelT5]

hope you get it sorted, i've changed turbo and pcv and mine's still smoking when warmed up and idleing.

how does it compare to the v70 so far? apart from it's miles better looking

No smoke today so far Danny so it's looking good- I'll be surprised and really pi$$ed off it's the rings; it's be pretty unusual for a stock, under 100k miles car, but you never can tell I guess. We'll see...

There's no comparison to the V70 mate- the T5R is awesome. Handling is superior, it's just a lot more of a driver's car all round. Interior's a bit klunky but not bothered about that really. It's not as quick, obviously, as it's stock at the mo, but I reckon with the right mods it should run mid 13 second 1/4's which is good enough for me :D

So far 10/10 mate :)


Ordered all the kit to do the PCV from local ovlov stealer, it's coming tmrw morning.
My local 'garagiste' wants over €200 to do it- thieving git, so going to attempt it myself as €200 buys a lot of wine :D

[danny-R]

mine doesn't smoke everyday either, just occasionally i get the odd blue puff lol.

yours looks exactly how mine looked when i bought it(minus the spoiler).

what have you got planned for it? I went for the hlm 304 first but soon wanted more power so i'd say go straight down the 19t/kkk route.

[JelT5]

mine doesn't smoke everyday either, just occasionally i get the odd blue puff lol.

yours looks exactly how mine looked when i bought it(minus the spoiler).

what have you got planned for it? I went for the hlm 304 first but soon wanted more power so i'd say go straight down the 19t/kkk route.

For now, just HLM and a strut brace. Going to do the 302mm brake conversion, prob fit some Konis and the do IPD stage 3: 18T (or 19T), injectors, full zorst with race cat, custom MTE map. That'll be plenty to be getting on with.
If it turns out the rings are shot I'll rebuild the engine with non choccy rods and maybe go for a bit more power :)
(If I can afford it all of course)

[Flatout Phil]

And you didn't say anything you git??? :D :D :D

Just did the dipstick test and it's pointing at an unwell PCV Phil.
Will be ordering bits and doing asap :)

I'm sure all will be well very soon!

Ah, that's jealousy for you! No seriously, I thought it was probably just that it had been sat around for a bit, but it was not trailing like a Red Arrow. Not a fun job but not the end of the world: mine needs doing too I think.
Good luck!

[JelT5]

Phil, I did a little bit of checking online and found the MOT history- it appears to have been smoking for the last three MOTs...the seller didn't mention that at all, yet he must have known. I'm somewhat concerned now and wondering what to do next!

[Alan M]

Valve stem seals seem to be a favourite seal to die slowly. Carry out a PCV replacement first and give the car a good service with a clean to all components you can. Also replace your turbo return seal and gasket if leaking as even a small leak loses lots of oil when out on the road. After your service and tidy see how you go and take the next stpes from there.

[RT MECHANICS]

For now, just HLM and a strut brace. Going to do the 302mm brake conversion, prob fit some Konis and the do IPD stage 3: 18T (or 19T), injectors, full zorst with race cat, custom MTE map. That'll be plenty to be getting on with.
If it turns out the rings are shot I'll rebuild the engine with non choccy rods and maybe go for a bit more power :)
(If I can afford it all of course)

Hi Jel

Looks like you got a good car one the pcv is sorted :)

A turbo tuner would be a good idea then you can tweek the map to suit your fuel and mods as you go....

Good luck

[Jimmie]

If your French is good you wont have any problems getting parts ,otherwise.lol

[JelT5]

Hi Jel

Looks like you got a good car one the pcv is sorted :)

A turbo tuner would be a good idea then you can tweek the map to suit your fuel and mods as you go....

Good luck

Thanks Russ, hopefully it is just the PCV mate. We'll see I guess!
Yeah, maybe Turbo Tuner is the way to go :D

[JelT5]

If your French is good you wont have any problems getting parts ,otherwise.lol

Mon Francais tres mauvais, but I managed to get all the parts I need mate :D

[JelT5]

Valve stem seals seem to be a favourite seal to die slowly. Carry out a PCV replacement first and give the car a good service with a clean to all components you can. Also replace your turbo return seal and gasket if leaking as even a small leak loses lots of oil when out on the road. After your service and tidy see how you go and take the next stpes from there.

Thanks for the info (again) Alan. I'll do all that first before panicking some more lol
BTW thanks for the running lights tip- sorted now :D

[Alan M]

No problem.

[JelT5]

Update on this ere thread...

Did the PCV last Thursday and the SOB still smokes. Seriously contemplating getting rid of said vehicle as I don't want to waste loads of cash chasing a problem, when I could be driving an AMG instead!!

Talk me out of it fellas ;)

[p fandango]

you won't be wasting money investing in a 19t instead of buying some German sh*te (which'll probably be an automatic)

assuming it is the turbo thats smoking & not the piston rings gone, in which case you buy a 2.5 block

[JelT5]

you won't be wasting money investing in a 19t instead of buying some German sh*te (which'll probably be an automatic

:partysmil I knew you'd react like that mate lol

I'll stick with it...maybe ;)

[p fandango]

:partysmil I knew you'd react like that mate lol

I'll stick with it...maybe ;)
i walked straight into your trap, but i couldn't resist the bait lol

i'd of thought the turbo has got to be the most likely thing now, how about getting a rebuild kit from fleabay & getting it checked out

[JelT5]

i walked straight into your trap, but i couldn't resist the bait lol

:D:D:D:D:D ///AMG for life :D:D:D:D:D


i'd of thought the turbo has got to be the most likely thing now, how about getting a rebuild kit from fleabay & getting it checked out

I'll avoid the middle man and just get a bigger turbot mate- probably go for an hybrid 16T or similar. FFM has given me loads of interesting info on his ex (lol) sounds like it was a good spec (from Alanm) at a reasonable cost- the results were pretty good on the 1/4 :)

[p fandango]

:D:D:D:D:D ///AMG for life :D:D:D:D:D
its a good job the forums got a swear filter lol


I'll avoid the middle man and just get a bigger turbot mate- probably go for an hybrid 16T or similar. FFM has given me loads of interesting info on his ex (lol) sounds like it was a good spec (from Alanm) at a reasonable cost- the results were pretty good on the 1/4 :)
sounds like a good plan/excuse to me mate

[JelT5]

its a good job the forums got a swear filter lol

:ices_rofl



sounds like a good plan/excuse to me mate

That's what I thought mate :)

[Jamest5r]

Hi mate, ive got a couple of 16t's lying around that need refurbing you can have one for £40 if you want and Alan M is within 5ish miles of me, or i have a spare 15g lying around as well not sure of condition as it wasnt on my car but it wasnt smoking on the car it was on as far as i know,(donor car i used for my conversion) you could have this and if its any good pay me £40 or send it back, might be worth a go?.

Oh by the was dont sell it mate ive been through hell and back with mine but its going to be worth it. AMG=Another Mancky German

[JelT5]

Hi mate, ive got a couple of 16t's lying around that need refurbing you can have one for £40 if you want and Alan M is within 5ish miles of me, or i have a spare 15g lying around as well not sure of condition as it wasnt on my car but it wasnt smoking on the car it was on as far as i know,(donor car i used for my conversion) you could have this and if its any good pay me £40 or send it back, might be worth a go?.

Oh by the was dont sell it mate ive been through hell and back with mine but its going to be worth it. AMG=Another Mancky German


Hahah love the AMG bit James, PMSL!!!

Like the idea of the 16T esp if Alan can do a bit of extra work to it for me-ie 19T internals; won't be able to do anything until the beginning next month atm due to being a tad skint because of a very demanding T-5R lol

Will have some dosh in June, which will go on the car, mods etc now that you, Pedro and my missus have talked me out of getting rid and buying Another Manky German :D

[Jamest5r]

Mate i will send you the 15g if you want to try it you can pay me in a month or so no probs, if its no good just send it back, nothing worse than driving round in a car that smokes

[JelT5]

No don't worry about that mate, I'll go for the full monty lol
PM'd you :)

[Jamest5r]

Good choice mate, i think i remember seeing a vid of FFM doing a 13.9 with one of Alan's hybrids on it, i want some of that lol(just having an 18t refurbed at the moment back on friday im looking for very low 14's maybe 13.9 with the wind behind me, i would be a very happy man then.)

[JelT5]

A man after my own heart lol I won't be happy til I'm in the mid 13s or lower lol
Gotta give Pedro a run for his money, the BIGT5R ;)

[danny-R]

Mate i will send you the 15g if you want to try it you can pay me in a month or so no probs, if its no good just send it back, nothing worse than driving round in a car that smokes

Tell me about it!!

I agree, don't sell it. You're most definatley in the same boat i am......
PCV- done
Turbo - Replaced and damn thing still smokes but these things are sent to try us.


Not good i know, but i think a replacement motor is on the horizon :(

[Jamest5r]

Hi Danny was the turbo you put on refurbed? both my 16t's smoked and that was on different engines, is the smoke clear on start up and until the car/oil warms up then turns blue? do you get a build up while sitting in traffic then a big cloud when you pull off?

[danny-R]

Hi Danny was the turbo you put on refurbed? both my 16t's smoked and that was on different engines, is the smoke clear on start up and until the car/oil warms up then turns blue? do you get a build up while sitting in traffic then a big cloud when you pull off?

hit the nail right on the head there mate, and i was told by tonyt5 when i bought it that it had been recon'd and have no reason to believe it hasn't.

[Jamest5r]

Do a compression test on the engine mate that will tell you if its the piston rings or not but it sounds like the turbo smoking, if you just leave the car idleing and stand by the exhaust is there faintish blue smoke?.

Also take the air pipe off to the turbo and see if there is any play in the shaft.

I could well be wrong mate im only going by own experiances some clever person will be along im sure to explain the theories lol

[danny-R]

Do a compression test on the engine mate that will tell you if its the piston rings or not but it sounds like the turbo smoking, if you just leave the car idleing and stand by the exhaust is there faintish blue smoke?.Also take the air pipe off to the turbo and see if there is any play in the shaft.

I could well be wrong mate im only going by own experiances some clever person will be along im sure to explain the theories lol

Yes mate, till you pull away and get a blue cloud.
When I put it on it checked it and and there was very minimal play, nowhere near as much as the 15g it replaced anyway.

Compression test is a good idea, suppose it will cheaper than a new block plus fitting lol

[Jamest5r]

Mate my last engine was knackered so i put another in with the same turbo and it smoked, replaced the turbo with another i had lying around and it still smoked now i have an 18t being refurbed and back on friday so i think it should be a fair run been me and you next weekeng lol

[danny-R]

we should have a smoking competition:) lmao

[danny-R]

So you're saying yours could still smoke after you fit refurbed 18t? will keep my fingers crossed for you mate

[Jamest5r]

So you're saying yours could still smoke after you fit refurbed 18t? will keep my fingers crossed for you mate

Got the engine from salvo 130,000m auto NOT SMOKING with 3month guarrentee but yes mate if the bitch smokes after this i will burn it myself lol

[danny-R]

Hope it all goes well for ya mate, will let jelt5 have his thread back and i'll see you at york.

[PaulZX]

I'd have won the smoke-out competition if the zed qualified for it..... James Bond woulda been well chuffed with the amount the zed was puttin out... lol