Engine Build

[leet5r]

rite guys some of yous may know that am after a fair bit of power from my car so i have getting hold of a spare engine that am goin to build to a good spec am after a few things and will require some help and info from yous lot cheers,

1st things 1st rods and pistons , am after some forged rods and some pistons the standard pistons are good for well over 400bhp so they will be good for me , but the rings have seen better days , does any 1 know where i can get some rings for standard size pistons , plenty ofplaces sell rods so they wont be a problem.
mains and big end bearings are still in good condiction but for safety am goin to put some new 1s in , standard 1s are easy to get but does any 1 know where you can get an uprated or harded shell . the turbo is going to be a well proven 1 for 400bhp on a 4cy car .
and is it worth stayin with genuine volvo bits for the oil pump head gasket etc cheers , and also a intercooler
thanks
lee


heres some pics of the old engine stripped down

[leet5r]

this isnt good lol

[S70T5Chris]

If you're looking at the 400bhp mark, standard volvo parts should be fine AFAIK. You'll get piston rings from the dealer, see Rufe for that. As for rods, you're right there are quite a few options, but don't spend a bomb mate. You'll get plenty of advice to stay away from 'cheap chinese rods' by people who have no experience of them, just what they 'think'. Go with what has been proven by others would be my advice. I'm personally using THS rods (cost about £300 IIRC), and know of plenty of other people using the same.

I believe Tim Williams has a couple Ally Intercooler's left (i may be wrong), so might be worth sending him a PM about them. I'm using the same one, as are quite a few others.

[Tim Williams]

As I said in a PM you cannot now get rings for the 850 Mahle pistons, you can still get them for the AE pistons fitted to the X70 cars.

[leet5r]

cheers lads i posted on here because its easyer for me to upload pics. i would ask what size pistons i need but yous would not be able to give a 100% answer with outh seen the engine , everything is in good workin order to the best of my knowlage. am goin to try and get the engine to a local engineering plave and see if they can wash the engine and see what they say about the size of pistons then al get back in touch, its a shame youus dont live nearer sunderland lol

[Jamest5r]

Have a look on top of the piston mate there will be a letter stamped on it, mine have a "D" stamped on it Rufe will need this if you call him, Volvo can supply the pistons and rings for £384 i spoke to him last week about mine.

If i was you i would get the engine rebored then you will have the exact measurement you need for new pistons, like what im doing.

[leet5r]

Have a look on top of the piston mate there will be a letter stamped on it, mine have a "D" stamped on it Rufe will need this if you call him, Volvo can supply the pistons and rings for £384 i spoke to him last week about mine.

cheers james , will i not need over sized pistons and rings or just over sized rings. av got the numbers off he mains and big ends , al have another look and get some numbers off the pistons , and try and get the block to a machine shop to see what size i will need
cheers

[Jamest5r]

Depends how much they think need machined mate have you got a lip at the top of the bore?

[leet5r]

Depends how much they think need machined mate have you got a lip at the top of the bore?

yes m8 where the ring stops with the piston , nothing bad al get it to a machine shop and probs will need over sive rings and pistons

[Jamest5r]

You can .5 and 1mm oversize from volvo, i only know this because smithy done the same on his redblock rebuild. Same man is building my engine.

[leet5r]

You can .5 and 1mm oversize from volvo, i only know this because smithy done the same on his redblock rebuild. Same man is building my engine.

cheers bud , its a shame yous lot are down south

[Jamest5r]

cheers bud , its a shame yous lot are down south

Mate i moved from London to Birmingham im up north to me lol

[leet5r]

Mate i moved from London to Birmingham im up north to me lol

pop round then m8 am in sunderland lol. you got any other parts for sale, i still after a gearbox but got no more room in the bat shed , as i have 3 engine and about 6 turbos lying about

[nobananas]

When I rebuilt my lump a couple of years ago I had no problem getting Volvo parts. Rings, mains and big ends were all available although it was damn expensive although the quality was excellent and you won't get the comprehensive set of mains shells to set up the crank if you get pattern. Did have a breakdown of all the prices posted somewhere on here but I'm damned if I can find it !

[leet5r]

When I rebuilt my lump a couple of years ago I had no problem getting Volvo parts. Rings, mains and big ends were all available although it was damn expensive although the quality was excellent and you won't get the comprehensive set of mains shells to set up the crank if you get pattern. Did have a breakdown of all the prices posted somewhere on here but I'm damned if I can find it !

what do you mean m8 , comprehensive set , it would be great if you could find the price list , it would help me price up

[Jamest5r]

pop round then m8 am in sunderland lol. you got any other parts for sale, i still after a gearbox but got no more room in the bat shed , as i have 3 engine and about 6 turbos lying about

I have a m56 g/box might have sold it to a new member on here but hes in ireland so just checking onn postage if not yours for £45 will know in the next couple of days, what else you after?

[leet5r]

I have a m56 g/box might have sold it to a new member on here but hes in ireland so just checking onn postage if not yours for £45 will know in the next couple of days, what else you after?

if you can sell it then sell it as i have no more room just yet , any performance bits

[Jamest5r]

Knowing you mate and your mission for 400bhp i doubt very much if ive got anything hanging around that would be any good to you lol

[leet5r]

Knowing you mate and your mission for 400bhp i doubt very much if ive got anything hanging around that would be any good to you lol

haha am alwasy temped to buy stuff when av got a bit spare cash on bits that i dont need or will max out sooner rather than later lol

[Jamest5r]

Spare cash??? what's that then? all mine's gone into my engine rebuild lol but like you i will have a new engine but mine has to be a daily drive so 300bhp and 470n/m will be fine for me would be well happy with that

[leet5r]

Spare cash??? what's that then? all mine's gone into my engine rebuild lol but like you i will have a new engine but mine has to be a daily drive so 300bhp and 470n/m will be fine for me would be well happy with that

what spec is it

[Jamest5r]

The engine will be standard mate it pulled 288bhp and 456n/m before the rebuild..spec was 16t ported, me7 manifold, miltec cat back (no cat), now i will have extra a fmic, 3" throttle body and of course a rebuilt engine so im not asking too much lol

[nobananas]

what do you mean m8 , comprehensive set , it would be great if you could find the price list , it would help me price up

I've searched the site but I can't find it (anyone seen it ?). I remember it was about a grand with machining work (it had a full seat and valve re-cut, a head skim, crank mic-up and polish, bore check for 'ovalarity' and wear, bore glaze bust,little end assessment and probably a few other things I can't remember !) Then the engine was built up with new seals, piston rings, big end bearings and mains. It didn't start off that expensive but when I got all the receipts together and added it all up it was a real 'holy £££££' moment ! I'll see if I can dig out any of the receipts over the weekend and post them up.

[leet5r]

I've searched the site but I can't find it (anyone seen it ?). I remember it was about a grand with machining work (it had a full seat and valve re-cut, a head skim, crank mic-up and polish, bore check for 'ovalarity' and wear, bore glaze bust,little end assessment and probably a few other things I can't remember !) Then the engine was built up with new seals, piston rings, big end bearings and mains. It didn't start off that expensive but when I got all the receipts together and added it all up it was a real 'holy £££££' moment ! I'll see if I can dig out any of the receipts over the weekend and post them up.

cheers pal , very good of you, and i will tr to get the block to a machine shop soon and get things sizes up

[Tomcat]

Fixed yer thread title.

[cameron]

Sorry for the slight hijack, but Jim i cant wait to see what your car will do after the conversion and rebuild, should give the good lady something to think about this year ;)

[leet5r]

Fixed yer thread title.

cheers i relised i typed the title in to fast and wrong lol

[nobananas]

Right, some prices for you.

Main bearing set £86
Big end bearing 5 X £22.80 (£114)
Piston ring kit 5 X £18.60 (£93)
Chemical gasket (between engine block sandwiches) £28
Collection of gaskets and seal totaling £37.45

Total parts from Volvo including VAT £421.18

Other stuff

Head bolt set £29.68
Head gasket set £90.47
Cambelt kit £90.00
Waterpump £35

Machine work

Pressure test head £35.40
Head skim £23.83
Valve re-cut £32.40
Valve seat re-cut £42.80
Remove/replace valves and springs £24.35

Total head work including VAT £186.57

Have lost the invoice for the bottom end but it had a mic-up, polish, light glaze bust/hone and the crank and flywheel were balanced.

I also rebuilt the turbo at the same time and the prices were from early 2007 so may be different now. Hope this is of some use.

[leet5r]

Right, some prices for you.

Main bearing set £86
Big end bearing 5 X £22.80 (£114)
Piston ring kit 5 X £18.60 (£93)
Chemical gasket (between engine block sandwiches) £28
Collection of gaskets and seal totaling £37.45

Total parts from Volvo including VAT £421.18

Other stuff

Head bolt set £29.68
Head gasket set £90.47
Cambelt kit £90.00
Waterpump £35

Machine work

Pressure test head £35.40
Head skim £23.83
Valve re-cut £32.40
Valve seat re-cut £42.80
Remove/replace valves and springs £24.35

Total head work including VAT £186.57

Have lost the invoice for the bottom end but it had a mic-up, polish, light glaze bust/hone and the crank and flywheel were balanced.

I also rebuilt the turbo at the same time and the prices were from early 2007 so may be different now. Hope this is of some use.

cheers bud