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smithy
Monday 12th April 2010, 17:01
hello everyone just abit of fun i took my car for a quick tune today on the rollers.i could only run 17 psi due to not being able to fuel anymore so after some s60r greens please.but anyway guess the power at the crank and torque .the car has a standard turbo cam in it .dont forget its only an 8v redblock running at 17 psi on standard ecus no chips ,dont be silly with the figuires its an old 940t at the end of the day ps old technology

princepugh
Monday 12th April 2010, 17:14
185 bhp?

t5_monkey
Monday 12th April 2010, 17:20
at 17psi... fairly long crank engine.... 2.0 litre?

I'm guessing... 165bhp @ crank?

smithy
Monday 12th April 2010, 17:26
at 17psi... fairly long crank engine.... 2.0 litre?

I'm guessing... 165bhp @ crank?

2.3 b230fk engine

Jamest5r
Monday 12th April 2010, 17:28
136???? if your lucky mate

smithy
Monday 12th April 2010, 17:30
more like 137 bhp lol but keep guessing mate lol

Jamest5r
Monday 12th April 2010, 17:40
Here's the spec for those that don't know....http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20220&highlight=smithy+940

t5 pete
Monday 12th April 2010, 18:15
127bhp and thats pushing it lol

smithy
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:01
your being abit conservative there mate lol

danny-R
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:05
210 bhp?

smithy
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:08
getting warmer

Wobbly Dave
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:09
230BHP. I reckon with the big pieces in that engine you will have decent torque.

danny-R
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:13
270?? if it's still on the standard map, if and when is it getting hamish'd?

smithy
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:13
230BHP. I reckon with the big pieces in that engine you will have decent torque.

well put it this way the car is produing 343 pounds foot of torque at 5k rpm so guess the bhp now then .because i have a vernier pully i was able to advance the cam slightly ,and the cam is the standard t cam not the performance 1.

smithy
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:15
270?? if it's still on the standard map, if and when is it getting hamish'd?

hamish can not do anything with this car mate ive already spoke to him about it .

Dangerous Dave
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:20
Oh, missed this thread, so based on 343 lbft its about 326bhp?

thebadger
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:22
I repeat from the Gen/offtop post, 283bhp.

danny-R
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:24
hamish can not do anything with this car mate ive already spoke to him about it .

so do you have any other plans for it, or just keeping it on standard map?

go on then, the suspense is killing me??...

smithy
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:29
i know people are subjective about different rolling roads and different ones but i only took the car to get the fuelling to boost sorted so i now what the next step is going to be.but i dont think this figuire will be far off because my clutch started to melt and that is a uprated turbo diesel clutch.but the power was said to be 358 bhp at 6066 rpm.this turbo i fitted to the car off the v70 is better suited to the engine

danny-R
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:33
i think you've done v well there, especially knowing there's more to be had....


137 MY ARS@!

smithy
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:35
when i get the bigger injectors in ,240mm billet flywheel and a heavier duty clutch then get the car tuned again at the same rolling road.when the car is setup then i will get some figuies on different RR to compair the figuires so i can get an average figuire for comparion.but i will say something its pretty quick .

thebadger
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:49
No kidding, Russ must be getting nervous of the potential challenger!

Thats a lot of power, I can see it being a handful.

smithy
Monday 12th April 2010, 21:52
No kidding, Russ must be getting nervous of the potential challenger!

Thats a lot of power, I can see it being a handful.

thanks mate it might be a handful but it will be fun .

p fandango
Tuesday 13th April 2010, 07:39
excellent one, interested to see what it does at Avon

smithy
Tuesday 13th April 2010, 08:19
thanks lads at avon im hoping that the clutch will hold up till i sort it.

danny-R
Tuesday 13th April 2010, 08:44
a few videos would be nice! ;)

smithy
Tuesday 13th April 2010, 09:03
a few videos would be nice! ;)

of avon seeing me crawl doing a 17s quater lol

timbo_1975
Tuesday 13th April 2010, 09:21
That big turbo is going to be pumping alot of volume, little exhaust restriction and at 17psi thats alot of air. Lovely big i/c too. :) I am surprised that the stock cam allowed it to hold peak power to 6k, but the torque must be amazing!

Is it abit laggy though?

A stock F or ET is meant to be 190hp on a good day, amazing you have almost doubled it using a stock ecu etc!

smithy
Tuesday 13th April 2010, 09:28
That big turbo is going to be pumping alot of volume, little exhaust restriction and at 17psi thats alot of air. Lovely big i/c too. :) I am surprised that the stock cam allowed it to hold peak power to 6k, but the torque must be amazing!

Is it abit laggy though?

A stock F or ET is meant to be 190hp on a good day, amazing you have almost doubled it using a stock ecu etc!

i have a vernier pully so i advanted the timing abit and the RR guy and me where surprised how much power it was pushing and to burn out a td clutch too witch are good for 350 bhp was surprising .the turbo is very smooth not laggy at all due to the big piping ,big i/c,and the 960 throttle body helped alot.and now ive drove it on the road it pulls like a steam train and dont give up at all.

Jamest5r
Tuesday 13th April 2010, 19:17
Just waiting for smithy to turn up so i can have a blast in the new beast.....will report back later if i live lol

leet5r
Tuesday 13th April 2010, 22:07
of avon seeing me crawl doing a 17s quater lol

aye in reverse lol

smithy
Tuesday 13th April 2010, 22:26
Just waiting for smithy to turn up so i can have a blast in the new beast.....will report back later if i live lol

well picked up james tonight to go to a private estate i know to see if the clutch can hold up,all i can say is i will let james tell you but the car is so SLOW that a 1litre fiesta will take it to the cleaners what is next i wonder lol

Jamest5r
Tuesday 13th April 2010, 22:26
FRIGGING HELL...feels brutal but in a very different way to my 850, so much torque and where as mine tails of after 4k this is not peaking til 5k and still pulling strong. When there's a decent clutch in it to handle the boost it's going to be an animal lol. cheers smithy. ok off now to find a cheap 940 to bolt my spare 16t onto lol.

smithy
Tuesday 13th April 2010, 22:27
FRIGGING HELL...feels brutal but in a very different way to my 850, so much torque and where as mine tails of after 4k this is not peaking til 5k and still pulling strong. When there's a decent clutch in it to handle the boost it's going to be an animal lol. cheers smithy. ok off now to find a cheap 940 to bolt my spare 16t onto lol.

lol

smithy
Wednesday 14th April 2010, 20:15
ok done some investigating today and i have a set of brand new injectors from hlm hamish thanks mate.they are delpi 578 cc that should fuel the 940 very well on the rollers .im also getting a clutch made by a company in leeds that do road and racing clutches ,i spoke to them about my car and said they are going to supply me with a 6 pad clutch so things are coming together ready for the next stage tune with boost set at 24 psi i wonder what the torque and bhp will be then .mmmmmmmm

leet5r
Sunday 18th April 2010, 18:19
how much was the injectors m8y