Volvo's "latest" cost for ETM replacement...?

[Al115]

I need another ETM replaced... the good old Magneti Marelli unit... what a surprise.

Anyone know what Volvo's latest pricing / policy is on this? I was just quoted:


ETM for 2001 V70 T5
£468 total price (part, software, fitting, VAT)

1.8h labour inc software update
£136 for the part
£who knows for the software

I told them that I paid half that last time round, and they said “last time round?” I said “yes, I’ve had two of these before” and they went quiet...

:P

[abdul]

what a rip off

[richiemat]

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/showthread.php?t=20137&highlight=etm

See my post #15 iirc it came to £247ish, just check they put yours back together properly :)

[Al115]

You found a Volvo main dealer that charges ~£55 per hour... wow!

I think that's probably the main reason for the variation in cost.

Where did you get it done?

Cheers...

[richiemat]

You found a Volvo main dealer that charges ~£55 per hour... wow!

I think that's probably the main reason for the variation in cost.

Where did you get it done?

Cheers...

We came to an agreement on the labour charge because I was unhappy, plus i enjoy the negotiation!

This work was down at Cambridge Volvo in Havant.

[richiemat]

I think that's probably the main reason for the variation in cost.



The other of course is that you were quoted 1.8 hrs and i paid for 1.3hrs

[Dangerous Dave]

You're telling me it takes 1.8 hours to unbolt a throttle pedal and bolt a new one in, then plug a laptop in and flash an ecu?

And I find it amazing that for years we have had the same kind of module on the throttle flap (i'm guesing the throttle position sensor works more or less the same as one would on the pedal) and they have different service lives, and its not like the TPS has an easy life, with engine heat and vibration, etc.

[Al115]

It's not the TPS, it's the ETM, which is under the inlet manifold.

1.8h still seems a bit steep though. I could do it myself in that.

[Dangerous Dave]

Ah right, so the motor bit is the problem.

So does the pedal module ever break?

[Al115]

Nah. Which is a shame as I have a spare :D

[cornclose]

Rich got his done cheaper because they didn't put the radiator back properly. I think the chap doing it stopped after 1 hr instead of 1.8 hrs.

[cornclose]

As far as I remember the software is pennies. So that must be a stonking hourly rate to get to £468 all in!

[LeeT5]

I need another ETM replaced... the good old Magneti Marelli unit... what a surprise.

Anyone know what Volvo's latest pricing / policy is on this? I was just quoted:


ETM for 2001 V70 T5
£468 total price (part, software, fitting, VAT)

1.8h labour inc software update
£136 for the part
£who knows for the software

I told them that I paid half that last time round, and they said “last time round?” I said “yes, I’ve had two of these before” and they went quiet...

:P

That's too much Al...i only paid £280 for my new ETM on my '99 V70R and that included the part. It's all pretty much the same stuff that's gotta come off. Which dealer m8?

[Al115]

Pillings in Welwyn Garden City.

[cookie]

get prices of rufe for part, and ask garage cost for software upload, and just fit the bit yourself, and get car recovered to dealer, from 1/2 a mile from home when you have some free time (RAC ain't gonna be able to fix at side of road are they) or drive in limp mode to garage, have you asked Braydons in Harlow?

[thebadger]

My "free clean" was preformed in 2008... The stealers forgot to re tighten the IC top pipe hose.

Got about 400 yards, gave it some beans & heard a loud POP.

Rev the t*ts off it before you leave the forecourt, that way the RAC will not be making two trips!

[LeeT5]

Spoke to Stu today about this and he said the dealer price is correct. The reason for the 1.8 hours is because on the late R's 03- the ETM wiring is routed behind the Starter motor rather than infront like on my '99 V70R. However i know your bringing the car to him anyway so it doesn't matter. It's also a little bit harder to do as the engine is tilted back more.

[Al115]

Interesting to understand the difference in book time - so basically it's harder on the later cars...

Why am I not surprised :D

[richiemat]

Spoke to Stu today about this and he said the dealer price is correct.

which price?

[LeeT5]

which price?

£468.

[Porcine_Aviator]

We had the ETM on Christine done, they fitted a Magneti Marelli unit saying it was a new unit. It died as I found out there are no new Magneti Marelli units the company went bust. So she went back and they fitted another Magneti Marelli unit, that died, so I hit the roof and they fitted a Bosch unit. I was told that Volvo would help with the cost of a new unit as the warranty had been extended on the unit, it seems that someone took a garage to court and won a case. The unit was not fit for purpose and the court said it should last a lot longer that it did.

They did "help" with the cost, £23 towards the total which by the time they had finished was well over £1200.

SO don't let them fit a Magneti Marelli unit they are just bodged old units that have failed already.

[richiemat]

I need another ETM replaced... the good old Magneti Marelli unit... what a surprise.

Anyone know what Volvo's latest pricing / policy is on this? I was just quoted:
ETM for 2001 V70 T5
£468 total price (part, software, fitting, VAT)
1.8h labour inc software update
£136 for the part
£who knows for the softwareI told them that I paid half that last time round, and they said “last time round?” I said “yes, I’ve had two of these before” and they went quiet...

:P


£468.

Al i think you were right in your original post, about half that quote is what it should amount to as mine is same year and model as yours.

[Al115]

Hmm, "last time round" was on a 1999 T5 though, so the simpler one to change. Cheers for the input though! Still working on it.

[Al115]

So to close this one...

I paid £136 + VAT for the part (that's cost price I believe)
I spent 2-3h cursing and doing the swap on my driveway
I paid £60 inc for the software loading

Total about £220 and 3h of my time in the cold and a trip to the dealer. Versus £468 for the dealer price. You can decide if your time is worth the difference in price!

Thanks to Stuart at SW Autos for the advice on the swap and cheapest way out of the problem.

[Porcine_Aviator]

I need another ETM replaced... the good old Magneti Marelli unit... what a surprise.

Anyone know what Volvo's latest pricing / policy is on this? I was just quoted:


ETM for 2001 V70 T5
£468 total price (part, software, fitting, VAT)

1.8h labour inc software update
£136 for the part
£who knows for the software

I told them that I paid half that last time round, and they said “last time round?” I said “yes, I’ve had two of these before” and they went quiet...

:P

I would be inclined to hit them with a claim and tell them that the units were not fit for purpose. It has been proved in court that the ETM is faulty and the court said that the unit should last longer than the time it does.

If this is now your third it shows that the unit are defiantly not fit for purpose.

You should ask for the Bosh replacement the Magnetti Marelli ones are just refurbished rubbish.

I had the same thing on Christine and threatened to take Taunton Volvo to court if they failed to sort out the problem.

If you do some research on ETM you will find that Volvo extended the warranty on them to 200,000 miles, but you do have to have the full service history. However you can point out that Volvo have admitted that the unit is a problem and they will bow under pressure.

Don't take what the dealers say as gospel it's not, the bloody Magnatti Marelli units are plain crap and Volvo know it.

[cookie]

So to close this one...

I paid £136 + VAT for the part (that's cost price I believe)
I spent 2-3h cursing and doing the swap on my driveway
I paid £60 inc for the software loading

Total about £220 and 3h of my time in the cold and a trip to the dealer. Versus £468 for the dealer price. You can decide if your time is worth the difference in price!

Thanks to Stuart at SW Autos for the advice on the swap and cheapest way out of the problem.

now perhaps My maths is wrong, but as I read it, Job time is 1.8hrs and so is all a main dealer is allowed to charge for fitting

only difference between the way you did job, and taking car, handing keys to dealer and collecting working car is the 1.8hr labour charge for fitting unit

so 468-220= £248 divide that by 1.8 = over £137 an hour labour charge

you have earnt effectively £83 an hour for working on car in cold, I'd happy spend 3 hours in cold working on car for £83 an hour, in fact I'd offer you 10% forum discount and do it for £72.70 an hour, if you keep me supplied with tea

[LeeT5]

now perhaps My maths is wrong, but as I read it, Job time is 1.8hrs and so is all a main dealer is allowed to charge for fitting

only difference between the way you did job, and taking car, handing keys to dealer and collecting working car is the 1.8hr labour charge for fitting unit

so 468-220= £248 divide that by 1.8 = over £137 an hour labour charge

you have earnt effectively £83 an hour for working on car in cold, I'd happy spend 3 hours in cold working on car for £83 an hour, in fact I'd offer you 10% forum discount and do it for £72.70 an hour, if you keep me supplied with tea

Lipscomb Volvo dealer - hourly rate is £98.50. (plus vat:yikes:)