Have I got a different turbo fitted?

[Major Frank Squiff]

Browsing through some old paperwork that came with the car when I got it I found that it had a new turbo fitted in November 2005. The part number is shown as 8601238.
After checking on various sites this seems to be for a T5R and is a TD04 HL-16T-7.
As the car is a 1996MY 855 T5 is this a result?
And does it explain why I have trouble with traction?

[phil_woods]

Iirc correctly I think your car should have had a 15g or whatever it's called and as such you have a free upgrade :)

[p fandango]

i'm sure the T-5R had a 15g, the extra bhp was created by the ECU having a 30second overboost. The manual 850R had a 16t

[Major Frank Squiff]

The interesting thing is that the car is an automatic. The Engine ecu number is 0261 203 074 which is the correct one for a t5 automatic. However there isn't any sign of the retaining nut/bolt thing on the strap that goes across the ecu so has it been taken out and chipped?
Even with good tyres on it is a bit difficult to maintain grip when I kickdown and watching the standard boost gauge at high revs it does seem to show a marked increase for a short time.

[p fandango]

sure the ECU retaining strap didn't come in till 1996 so you may not of had one

[Jamest5r]

The t5r's come with 15g so you have had an upgrade, also no strap on the ecu box like p fan said on cars before '96, if you want to know if its been mapped keep your eye on your boost gauge standard goes about 3/4 into the white with a map it will leave the end of the white section by a couple of mill then settle by the end

[p fandango]

looks like you may have a 16t after all, but off a S70 not a 850 T-5R

LINK (http://www.turbo-product.com/Mitsubishi_1/TD04H.ASP)

[PNuT]

personally i cant believe you are working out what turbo is fitted using a part number on paperwork....

[p fandango]

looks like you may have a 16t after all, but off a S70 not a 850 T-5R

LINK (http://www.turbo-product.com/Mitsubishi_1/TD04H.ASP)
actually, looking at the list it just says S70 doesn't actually say T-5 so may not be 16t

[Major Frank Squiff]

personally i cant believe you are working out what turbo is fitted using a part number on paperwork....

As the part number is a OEM number on the invoice from Braydon Motors who carried out the work it seems a logical place to start.

How would you suggest that the turbo is identified otherwise?

[Major Frank Squiff]

I have found these two sites which appear to give a definitive list of turbo applications.

http://www.arturbo.co.uk/catalogue_turbos.asp?Make=42
http://www.dieselevante.it/turbochargers.asp?idmarca=98&idcat=2

I look forward to your comments

[p fandango]

I have found these two sites which appear to give a definitive list of turbo applications.

http://www.arturbo.co.uk/catalogue_turbos.asp?Make=42
http://www.dieselevante.it/turbochargers.asp?idmarca=98&idcat=2

I look forward to your comments
i'm afraid both those sites must use the same source for there information because they are both wrong. The T-5R uses a 15g like normal T-5's, they were only made in 1995 not 96-97 as it says on there. They've got there info mixed up with the 850R manual which does come with a 16t & made in the correct years they state

what else is on the invoice as i think the downpipe would need changing as well to swop from a 15g to a 16t

[Major Frank Squiff]

The invoice shows part number 30637866 "O ring turbo pipe 850", part number 9471644 "tube", part number 1389574 "elbow" and an inlet manifold gasket.
The tube cost £21.40 plus vat>

[p fandango]

The invoice shows part number 30637866 "O ring turbo pipe 850", part number 9471644 "tube", part number 1389574 "elbow" and an inlet manifold gasket.
The tube cost £21.40 plus vat>
the O ring is the seal on the oil return pipe to the turbo
the tube is from the PCV system
& the elbow is on the end of the breather pipe on the inlet manifold

atleast they've done the PCV clean as well which is always a good idea

[PNuT]

As the part number is a OEM number on the invoice from Braydon Motors who carried out the work it seems a logical place to start.

How would you suggest that the turbo is identified otherwise?

by reading the plate on the turbo itself.....

[Major Frank Squiff]

Could you give me an idea whereabouts the plate is on the turbo?
A piccy wuld be helpful.

[PNuT]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLVO-850-Turbo-Turbocharger-TD04HL-13G-6-49189-01410_W0QQitemZ120495053456QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_C arsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item1c0e109a90