Baffled by steering

[Flash B]

Hi all, New member to this Volvo lark. Just upgraded from a tiny Fiat Panda 100 hp to a beautiful V70 (170) and can't stop smiling. Easily the best car I've owned and is a dream to drive, however, I've noticed that whilst driving at a normal pace around the windy roads of Mid Wales, the steering seems to go very light and 'jerky' on corners. This seems to be an intermitent problem and makes me feel a bit worried. I've checked everything obvious and all seems tight. Anyone got any ideas???? Ive noticed the power steering fluid reservoir is full but has clearly had a previous leak from the pipes, which now seems clear.
I need to sort this before I can do anything else.

[t5 stealth]

hi,
personally i would jack the car up & check the steering/suspension components to make sure theres no excessive movement,
then check for any leaks or unusual wear,if your not sure what your looking for then get it to your local garage to have it checked properly,dont take the chance with steering,its an important part of your fun.
juddering is usually bought on by belt slip,
check the condition of the belt,& all the small ribs in the belt.
when you say "it goes lite" do you meen after it judders,ie it goes back to normal lite steering or excessivly lite,
if its over lite then maybe a ps pump issue,faulty valve in the pump or rack.

[Flash B]

Thanks for that. I'll get the car up on ramps and have a more thorough look at her. The steering goes light when inputting steering at the apex of a bend and the judder (although slight) does make me a little nervous. It seems as if the power steering is working overtime. It can be resolved by more throttle, but I don't want to cover up a problem by just going faster - snowball effect!!!!

[But is it really a Volvo?]

I'd change your wishbones and track-rod ends first.
If it doesn't respond to that, then change all four shocks and your front strut top-mounts.
This all assumes that your front tyres have no internal issues (not to be dismissed in this day of ubiquitous speed humps and poor road maintenance).

[t5 stealth]

I'd change your wishbones and track-rod ends first.
If it doesn't respond to that, then change all four shocks and your front strut top-mounts.
This all assumes that your front tyres have no internal issues (not to be dismissed in this day of ubiquitous speed humps and poor road maintenance).

r u his bank manager ...cos u want him to spend a lot of cash there,
personally i wldnt change any of that until im sure its at fault cos all those items are not cheap......not good advice me thinks.........
at a guess id say your not a mechanic lol.......:frown:

[thebadger]

3 things.

1. Droplinks may be shot. This causes an audible knocking noise on bumps.

2. Shocks/springs. Could be a leaky shock or an unseated spring.

3. Lock stops/steering limiters. The V70 P2 (and S60s) can get full lock wheel arch rub. Check the inner front of the wheel arch (about 6-8" from the top of the arch in front of the strut) if the arch is shiny then you have it touching on full lock. This can be sorted with a set of new limiters (£8-12 each).

[But is it really a Volvo?]

r u his bank manager ...cos u want him to spend a lot of cash there,
personally i wldnt change any of that until im sure its at fault cos all those items are not cheap......not good advice me thinks.........
at a guess id say your not a mechanic lol.......:frown:
Well, I've changed the clutch slave, timing belt and rocker cover gasket on this car, maintained more than 20 cars owned over 30 years during which time I've stripped and rebuilt heads and engines, and I have an Honours Mech. Engineering degree.

So if that makes me no mechanic, I'm not sure what it makes you LOL :frown:

.... but I have my own ideas.

[thebadger]

I'd check the drop links & arches first. If it only happens in highspeed bends & it's a slight "movement" then that would be the ARB (droplinks), but if it's a bit of vibration & a light feeling at lock, then the wheel is touching the arches.

What size of tyres are you on?

Should be 225/xx/xx w/x/y to allow space.

[t5 stealth]

Well, I've changed the clutch slave, timing belt and rocker cover gasket on this car, maintained more than 20 cars owned over 30 years during which time I've stripped and rebuilt heads and engines, and I have an Honours Mech. Engineering degree.

So if that makes me no mechanic, I'm not sure what it makes you LOL :frown:

.... but I have my own ideas.

lol is that all.....................:)

[Baj]

I think advising to change out everything before diagnosis more than qualifies him as a mechanic.

[thebadger]

My mechanic is multi talented!

He can scratch his ass & make up huge prices at the same time!

Just kidding, my spanners is a star & always quotes me before he starts with parts!

Check the couple of areas I've mentioned first, then think about a garage visit.

[v70torslanda]

I think advising to change out everything before diagnosis more than qualifies him as a mechanic.

For a major 'fast fit'? ???

The 'shotgun' method, not my way of fixing cars but then I've been supplying bits, quite successfully, for nearly 30 years.

I'm a big fan of 'find out what the problem is first'.

I'm also a big fan of 'you asked for it and it's exactly what you asked for, exactly what is it that makes this the wrong part?' ;)

[thebadger]

Playing the game of "stick bits on till it works" is just a waste of cash.

Quality parts by J tho!

[PaulZX]

drop links have to be the starting point... fairly easy and not dead expensive...

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Playing the game of "stick bits on till it works" is just a waste of cash.
You don't half talk some cobblers.

[cornclose]

You don't half talk some cobblers.

Well, it is a waste of cash. It may get you the desired result, but you'll waste some cash in the process usually. So it isn't cobblers!

[T5ER]

Well, it is a waste of cash. It may get you the desired result, but you'll waste some cash in the process usually. So it isn't cobblers!

lol but in all defence the 3 volvos i have had (plus no doubt hundreds more) could do with wishbones arb bushes droplinks and track rods changing on them as most do or suffer from minor to major steering issues. As for the shocks would personally do the bounce test first to make sure there ok before replacing

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Well, it is a waste of cash. It may get you the desired result, but you'll waste some cash in the process usually. So it isn't cobblers!
I disagree.

A wishbone can LOOK fine - but like many steering and suspension components, can't be meaningfully tested other than by comparison with a replacement.

That's why he's talking cobblers (along with anyone who agrees with him).

[cornclose]

the 3 volvos i have had (plus no doubt hundreds more) could do with wishbones arb bushes droplinks and track rods changing on them as most do or suffer from minor to major steering issues.

Well I'm not disputing that, but in all fairness, 'advising' someone to change this and that and 'if it doesn't respond' change something else, without first looking at the problem and getting a proper diagnosis as has been suggested by others, is cobblers.

If in doubt about getting a proper diagnosis, take it to someone who knows. There are plenty about. I'm sure many an unscrupulous garage will be quite happy to swap parts out until the problem goes away, but then there are many Volvo specialists who'll find what the problem is and advise on what needs to be changed, and only what needs to be changed.

[T5ER]

oh no i agree on having it diagnosed first, but i think he may find that he will need to replace some suspension items though

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Well I'm not disputing that, but in all fairness, 'advising' someone to change this and that and 'if it doesn't respond' change something else, without first looking at the problem and getting a proper diagnosis as has been suggested by others, is cobblers.

If in doubt about getting a proper diagnosis, take it to someone who knows. There are plenty about. I'm sure many an unscrupulous garage will be quite happy to swap parts out until the problem goes away, but then there are many Volvo specialists who'll find what the problem is and advise on what needs to be changed, and only what needs to be changed.
More cobblers.

The most likely culprit is wishbones, followed by trackrod ends.

That you fail to recognize this as good advice doesn't say much for your knowledge of S80 steering and suspension.

That you go on to trash the advice of those who DO know, doesn't say much for your manners.

Remember : engage brain BEFORE opening mouth.

[v70torslanda]

You don't half talk some cobblers.

I DON'T NORMALLY DO THIS.

No! You do! <slap>

J

[T5ER]

More cobblers.

The most likely culprit is wishbones, followed by trackrod ends.

That you fail to recognize this as good advice doesn't say much for your knowledge of S80 steering and suspension.

That you go on to trash the advice of those who DO know, doesn't say much for your manners.

Remember : engage brain BEFORE opening mouth.

You are quiet correct about the knowledge of the S80 steering and suspension but as flash b has a V70 and not a S80 hence why

[But is it really a Volvo?]

You are quiet correct about the knowledge of the S80 steering and suspension but as flash b has a V70 and not a S80
V70 = S80 estate, for the uninitiated.

[PaulZX]

...get's popcorn, and thinks how cheap drop links are, compared to most other suspension bits, and thinks "that's where I'd start"

[T5ER]

V70 = S80 estate, for the uninitiated.

really hmmmmmm was not like that when i worked for volvo strangely enough V70 = S70 estate for the p1 cars and V70 = S60 for the p2 cars, now surely would not miss-inform me as i worked for them and spent a lot of time at the daventry plant ?????????? no i did not think so

[mds]

Have you considered the simplest item Tyres? What condition are they in, are the pressures correct and are they the dreaded P6000 ?
Then get the suspension checked by a reputable garage if you cant or dont want to do it your self. Worn or failing wishbone bushes are a well known problem.

[cornclose]

More cobblers.

The most likely culprit is wishbones, followed by trackrod ends.

That you fail to recognize this as good advice doesn't say much for your knowledge of S80 steering and suspension.

That you go on to trash the advice of those who DO know, doesn't say much for your manners.

Remember : engage brain BEFORE opening mouth.

I disagree. :lol:. Is it really a Volvo you're on about? For a start, Flash B is talking of a V70 not an S80. I know they're practically identical, but hey, lets not split hairs.

You referred to someone 'talking cobblers'. You stated that directly after that someone stated Playing the game of "stick bits on till it works" is just a waste of cash. Go back and read it again if you don't believe me.

Fact: It is a waste of cash. Thus, you're talking cobblers! If you fail to recognise this then it doesn't say much about your knowledge of anything.

It may very well be wishbones. It may very well be track rod ends, that I am not disputing. It's the method you're suggesting I (and others) are at odds with.

Anyway, really can't be arsed with all this, Flash B, take your car to a respected specialist if you want a proper diagnosis. I don't know of any near you put I'm sure someone will.

If you want to throw money at it changing stuff until it works thats fine, I'm sure 'But is it really a Volvo?' will assist you to spend your hard earned. :crazy:

And remember; :hihi: engage brain BEFORE opening mouth. :slap:

[But is it really a Volvo?]

really hmmmmmm was not like that when i worked for volvo strangely enough V70 = S70 estate for the p1 cars and V70 = S60 for the p2 cars, now surely would not miss-inform me as i worked for them and spent a lot of time at the daventry plant ??????????
Wow!
You honestly think the V70 is an S60 estate ?

[T5ER]

Wow!
You honestly think the V70 is an S60 estate ?

so you are now questioning volvo ???????? fair enough i suggest then that you take that up with them, strange how the s60 and v70 share the same floor pan, running gear, engine, suspension and other parts and the S80 does not ????? S80 is longer than a V70 and wider so why make the saloon longer and wider than the estate ????? does not add up oh and not forgetting there are 2 versions of the S80 aswell

[But is it really a Volvo?]

I disagree. :lol:. Is it really a Volvo you're on about? For a start, Flash B is talking of a V70 not an S80. I know they're practically identical
Let's forget FlashB.
He thinks the V70 = S60 estate.




It may very well be wishbones. It may very well be track rod ends, that I am not disputing.
Is it just me or do I hear the sound of frenzied backpedalling ?


It's the method you're suggesting I (and others) are at odds with.
I got it!
You have special powers that allow you to psychically 'feel' when a wishbone is 'hurting'.



Anyway, really can't be arsed with all this, Flash B, take your car to a respected specialist if you want a proper diagnosis. I don't know of any near you put I'm sure someone will.

If you want to throw money at it changing stuff until it works thats fine, I'm sure 'But is it really a Volvo?' will assist you to spend your hard earned. :crazy:

And remember; :hihi: engage brain BEFORE opening mouth. :slap:
Oi! Make up your own insults.

[cornclose]

Let's forget FlashB.
He thinks the V70 = S60 estate.

No he doesn't. Read it all again.


Is it just me or do I hear the sound of frenzied backpedalling ?

It's just you. Read it all again.


I got it!
You have special powers that allow you to psychically 'feel' when a wishbone is 'hurting'.

No I don't. But you seem to think you have by making a definative diagnosis over an internet forum.

:stupid:

I rest my case.

[thebadger]

oh no i agree on having it diagnosed first, but i think he may find that he will need to replace some suspension items though

I won't dispute that point, but £70 per wishbone from J is the best start if you're going down the "throw cash at it till it dissapears" route.

9 times out of 10 it's a basic service item, droplinks being the usual "weak link" in the suspension system.

I'd save the cash, get it confirmed what's wrong & get that fixed first.

The suspension is an expensive area to start dropping lots of cash, it will snowball till you've replaced every part, only to find that it was something easy to sort like tyre sizes or wheel alignment.

Be smart & fix it from the diagnosis rather than guessing & hoping.

[cornclose]

I won't dispute that point, but £70 per wishbone from J is the best start if you're going down the "throw cash at it till it dissapears" route.

9 times out of 10 it's a basic service item, droplinks being the usual "weak link" in the suspension system.

I'd save the cash, get it confirmed what's wrong & get that fixed first.

The suspension is an expensive area to start dropping lots of cash, it will snowball till you've replaced every part, only to find that it was something easy to sort like tyre sizes or wheel alignment.

Be smart & fix it from the diagnosis rather than guessing & hoping.

You don't half talk sense. :wave23d:

[T5ER]

i am not saying replace if its not broken badger that as said is a waste of cash and time, it deffo needs to be checked over first as everybody bar one person has said

[T5ER]

plus i cant believe volvo have made a huge mistake myself by telling everybody inc all there garages and employee`s that the V70 P2 is the estate version of the S60 when clearly somebody else knows better that it is a S80 estate. damn i am now going to write to volvo and ask them what compensation i can have after being miss-lead by themselves for all these years

[cornclose]

Come on irf!!

[But is it really a Volvo?]

The OP wanted opinions on what it might be.
I told him what the most likely culprits are, which would make a useful starting point for inspection.
And if that along with wider inspection provides no further insight, then replacing the wishbones would be a good starting point.

Unfortunately however, t5 stealth doesn't quite understand that most people would take this as implicit - and starts a strawman argument about people replacing parts without bothering to inspect first.

[cornclose]

Unfortunately however, t5 stealth doesn't quite understand that most people would take this as implicit - and starts a strawman argument about people replacing parts without bothering to inspect first.

No he didn't!! Stop reading things into a situation which aren't there!

T5 Stealth's very first post on the matter was;


hi,
personally i would jack the car up & check the steering/suspension components to make sure theres no excessive movement,
then check for any leaks or unusual wear,if your not sure what your looking for then get it to your local garage to have it checked properly,dont take the chance with steering,its an important part of your fun.
juddering is usually bought on by belt slip,
check the condition of the belt,& all the small ribs in the belt.
when you say "it goes lite" do you meen after it judders,ie it goes back to normal lite steering or excessivly lite,
if its over lite then maybe a ps pump issue,faulty valve in the pump or rack.

Again I say, :hihi: engage brain BEFORE opening mouth. :slap:

Apart from that, it's bordering on a sensible post.

[Justin]

Gentlemen please, i will have to ring the fire brigade at this rate.

[PaulZX]

nom-nom-nom

[T5ER]

lol

[cornclose]

Damn, out of 'thanks' again...

[irf]

Come on irf!!

huh! what? leave me out of this!:P

seeing as i'm here, can i just say

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk74/Kaiserkrause/stfunoobbaby.jpg


and may i suggest, wether you're right or wrong, you read

http://lookgade.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/how-to-win-friend.jpg

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Unfortunately however, t5 stealth doesn't quite understand that most people would take this as implicit - and starts a strawman argument about people replacing parts without bothering to inspect first.
No he didn't!! Stop reading things into a situation which aren't there!
My, you really are getting confused.

Remember this ?

r u his bank manager ...cos u want him to spend a lot of cash there,
personally i wldnt change any of that until im sure its at fault cos all those items are not cheap

Looks like he might have been suggesting the OP inspect before replacing.
Whaddya reckon ?

[cornclose]

My, you really are getting confused.

Remember this ?

Looks like he might have been suggesting the OP inspect before replacing.
Whaddya reckon ?

Indeed he was! And no, tis not I that is confused...

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Indeed he was! And no, tis not I that is confused...
That's the wonderful thing about Alzheimer's ... you've never made any mistakes because the past doesn't exist.

First rule of the interweb : - Never argue with the senile.

[cornclose]

That's the wonderful thing about Alzheimer's ... you've never made any mistakes because the past doesn't exist.

First rule of the interweb : - Never argue with the senile.

Thanks for that. I will remember never to argue with you again.

[T5ER]

:ukliam2::blowingup:firedevil:cop::cop::cop::cop:

[But is it really a Volvo?]

No, you gotta make your mind up : -

First : -


No he didn't!!

Then : -


Indeed he was!

And I'M confused ?

[T5ER]

:cop::cop::cop::cop::cop::cop::cop::cop::cop::cop: :cop::cop::cop::cop::cop:

[cornclose]

Oh ffs... I'll say again, go back and read the whole thread to see who said what.

Why should I sit here and quote what was said when it's already written down ?

Should've gone to SpecSavers... :uglyhamme

[thebadger]

Oh where is this post going?

Look, he needs to get it seen about, something is wrong with it!

Assuming a specific part & saying "yes, that's what's wrong I know!" is just tosh & should be ignored by everyone.

Suggesting possible issues is helpful, which is the point of such forums, and can speed a solution to the issues.

Unless you are a mechanic who has personally viewed the specific car in question, I would only ever give suggestions, not solutions.

btw, But is it really a volvo, I assume by the sig you have an S80 & have made your assumption that it's the same as a V70 because you have a shiny Haynes Manual. Perhaps you could read through it & compare some of the specs & dimesions on the cars? Some suspension parts, wheels & in some cases, engines are all they have in common.

[T5ER]

:stupid: what he said

[But is it really a Volvo?]

btw, But is it really a volvo, I assume by the sig you have an S80 & have made your assumption that it's the same as a V70 because you have a shiny Haynes Manual. Perhaps you could read through it & compare some of the specs & dimesions on the cars? Some suspension parts, wheels & in some cases, engines are all they have in common.
What's the engine got to do with the price of fish ?

No, it's not 'cos I've got a shiny Haynes manual or for that matter, a copy of VADIS.
It's because I've got a pair of eyes.

If you honestly think the V70 = S60 estate, I can only suggest a trip to SpecSavers or that you stop to consider exactly what might possess Volvo to make their biggest estate based on the 2nd biggest saloon.

[T5ER]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm getting confused and wires crossed, oh and i hope that it is a genuine VADIS disc and not a copy, oh and VIDA is the one to use nowadays not VADIS

[But is it really a Volvo?]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm getting confused and wires crossed, oh and i hope that it is a genuine VADIS disc and not a copy, oh and VIDA is the one to use nowadays not VADIS
VIDA's on eBay already ?

[But is it really a Volvo?]

VIDA's on eBay already ?
It is, but I don't think I'll be splashing out just yet : -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VOLVO-VCT2000-SYSTEM-VIDA-2008a-DIAGNOSTICS-VCT-2000_W0QQitemZ200418253306QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Di agnostic_Tools_Equipment?hash=item2ea9dbd9fa

[T5ER]

i know i have eyes oh and also perfect vision as i have been to have my eyes tested last week thankyou. Now please take this which ever way you want but imho i think you getting peoples backs up on here now, you are a fairly new member and yes everybody has a opinion but telling people who work or have worked for VOLVO for years that they know nothing and that they are wrong is a insult, oh and copied version/pirated versions of any software are not condoned on here i am affraid

[thebadger]

If you honestly think the V70 = S60 estate, I can only suggest a trip to SpecSavers

And where in my post did I refer to an S60?

You are clearly afflicted with some kind of dillusional visual impairment.

I hope you don't drive near any built up areas, the impact may be biblical in the terror stakes.

[T5ER]

well said badger, with you there 100%

[But is it really a Volvo?]

i know i have eyes oh and also perfect vision as i have been to have my eyes tested last week thankyou. Now please take this which ever way you want but imho i think you getting peoples backs up on here now, you are a fairly new member and yes everybody has a opinion but telling people who work or have worked for VOLVO for years that they know nothing
When did I say that ?

I wonder why Haynes lump the V70 together with the S80 and not the S60 ?

I may be new, but you'll find that doesn't make me wrong.

[thebadger]

I wonder why Haynes lump the V70 together with the S80 and not the S60 ?

Because they share quite a few suspension parts & engines... (see it does have something to do with it)


I may be new, but you'll find that doesn't make me wrong.

Hmm.. guys, discuss!

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Because they share quite a few suspension parts & engines...
Seems Haynes think they share more than the V70 and S60 do.

But what do they know ?

[thebadger]

Haynes know some stuff, but lots of items get no mention at all...

So... I don't see the production of one book instead of two as being due to similarities, more as cost saving on the part of Haynes.

How many sections mention "for S80" and then "on V70".

[T5ER]

nobody said you were wrong nor did they say you were right, catch 22 by the looks of it

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Haynes know some stuff, but lots of items get no mention at all...

So... I don't see the production of one book instead of two as being due to similarities, more as cost saving on the part of Haynes.
Presumably they felt they could save more by lumping the V70 with the S80 than they could lumping it with the S60.

[thebadger]

I'm personally surprised that they didn't lump all 3 together, However this may be due to the fact that the S80 was the first to be made, then the V70 (P2) & finally the S60.

So Haynes probably made the S60 book on it's own as an after thought, but thought sod making two for the first ones, lets save some trees.

P2 platform release dates

S80 1998
V70 (P2) 1999
S60 2000

[But is it really a Volvo?]

nobody said you were wrong nor did they say you were right, catch 22 by the looks of it
Damn!
Foiled again.

Well I'm saying that anyone who reckons the V70 = S60 estate is wrong.

How d'ya like them onions ?

[T5ER]

so volvo sweden are wrong aswell then ????? as they share the same platform. Guess you best email them and tell them they have it all wrong

[v70torslanda]

New or not, mate. YOU ARE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you don't believe me check out Partsforvovlosonline, eurocarparts.com or even the dealer.

Some examples

S60/V70 (chassis YV1RS & YV1SW)

Front Wishbone. #8623957 Headlamp. #8693568 (->05)

S80 (chassis YV1TS)

Front Wishbone. #8623955 Headlamp. #9484257

Lots more to go at - S60/V70 Bonnet - identical. Wings - identical. Front doors . . .

Do you really want me to go on? Or find the 'Flogging a Dead Horse' smiley?

Please note - This isn't up for discussion. This is what I do for a living.

FACTS not OPINIONS.

[But is it really a Volvo?]

so volvo sweden are wrong aswell then ????? as they share the same platform. Guess you best email them and tell them they have it all wrong
All three share the same platform.

According to Parker's Guide, the V70 was followed by the S80.
Then along came the S60 two years later, which was basically a downsized S80.

Again the V70 = S80 estate.

I thought everybody knew that.

[cornclose]

All three share the same platform.

According to Parker's Guide, the V70 was followed by the S80.
Then along came the S60 two years later, which was basically a downsized S80.

Again the V70 = S80 estate.

I thought everybody knew that.

http://blog.internetnews.com/apatrizio/orly_owl.jpg

:smileypul

[T5ER]

you are talking of the first S80 not the later S80, as v70 torslanda said read his post, i said the V70 phase 2 version is the estate version of the S60

[T5ER]

nice 1 chris spot on, love it

[thebadger]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_D3_platform

[T5ER]

oh xc70 and 90 are the same as the v70 s60 and s80

[T5ER]

thankyou for that helpfull post badger that will lay the demons to rest, never said the S80 was totally different i said the v70 was a estate version of the S60

[thebadger]

According to Parker's Guide, the V70 was followed by the S80.
Then along came the S60 two years later, which was basically a downsized S80.

Again the V70 = S80 estate.

Tosh! Parkers have limited knowledge & use references from handbooks.
S80 in 1997
V70 in 1999
S60 in 2000

The V70 & S60 were refinements of the S80 chassis & use the same platform for many of the structural bits.

The S80 is a seperate buggy & has a different size and shape all together!


I thought everybody knew that.

They didn't cos it's Tosh!

[But is it really a Volvo?]

you are talking of the first S80 not the later S80, as v70 torslanda said read his post, i said the V70 phase 2 version is the estate version of the S60
There are three V70's :
96 - 04 original
04 - 07 facelift
07 - ... current

All three are S80 estates.

And as was stated before, the V70 and S80 are mechanically near identical - so it makes zero difference.

[cornclose]

There are three V70's :
96 - 04 original
04 - 07 facelift
07 - ... current

All three are S80 estates.


:wtf:

[T5ER]

i give up cus you are not listening or reading, and as i said then volvo must be wrong aswell as me and others on here and obviously you designed and built all those cars so you are RIGHT. Anyway can we get back on topic and help flash b out

[v70torslanda]

LET ME BE THE FIRST TO SAY THIS PUBLICLY.

F. O. A. D. TROLL

and from now on you will be the only one on my 'Ignore' list. . . .

[thebadger]

There are three V70's :
96 - 04 original
04 - 07 facelift
07 - ... current

All three are S80 estates.

And as was stated before, the V70 and S80 are mechanically near identical - so it makes zero difference.

Wrong again!

V70, P1 (1997-1999)
V70, P2 (1999-2003)
V70, P2 facelift (2004-2007)
V70, P3 (2008-present)

Sort yourself out & do a google search!

I now feel embarrased for you!

[T5ER]

:wtf:

lol here we are bit better

1st gen 1997-2000
2nd gen 1999-2007
3rd gen 2007 onwards

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_V70

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Wrong again!

V70, P1 (1997-1999)
V70, P2 (1999-2003)
V70, P2 facelift (2004-2007)
V70, P3 (2008-present)

Sort yourself out & do a google search!

I now feel embarrased for you!

same here. wikipedia is ace

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I 'm all out of 'thanks', I'm so lost without you
I know you were right, believing for so long
I 'm all out of 'thanks', what am I without you
I can't be too late, to say that I was so wrong


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[T5ER]

The Volvo V70 is a mid-size five-door station wagon / estate manufactured by Volvo Cars since 1996 — and closely related to the S70, S60 and S80 saloons as well as the four-wheel drive Cross Country (XC) and XC70.

Since its inception, the V70 has evolved through three generations — notably, the second generation designed by Peter Horbury.[1]

Over 80% of V70s are sold in Europe, one third in Sweden. The Volvo V70 has been the best selling car in Sweden for many years.[citation needed]

Contents [hide]
1 First generation (1997–2000)
1.1 First generation variants
1.2 First generation models
1.3 First generation straight-5 engines
1.4 Safety
2 Second generation (1999–2007)
3 Technical
4 Third generation (2007-present)
5 Comfort
6 Safety
7 References
8 External links


[edit] First generation (1997–2000)
First generation
Also called Volvo V70-XC
Production 1997–2000
Assembly Torslanda, Sweden
Ghent, Belgium
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, Volvo Halifax Assembly
Engine(s) 2.0L 126 hp I5

2.4L 162 hp I5
2.4L 190 hp I5
2.5L 190 hp I5
2.3L 240 hp I5
2.3L 250 hp I5
2.4L 265 hp I5


2.5L 140 hp I5 (diesel)
Transmission(s) 5-speed manual, 4-speed automatic, 5-speed automatic
Wheelbase 2,664 mm (104.9 in)
1998 AWD: 2,662 mm (104.8 in)
1999-2000 AWD: 2,654 mm (104.5 in)
Length 1998: 4,722 mm (185.9 in)
1999-2000: 4,729 mm (186.2 in)
1999-2000 XC: 4,735 mm (186.4 in)
Width 1,760 mm (69.3 in)
Height 1,427 mm (56.2 in) & 1,481 mm (58.3 in)
R: 1,453 mm (57.2 in)
Fuel capacity 68 L (18 US gal; 15 imp gal)
The original V70 was a development of the Volvo 850 station wagon and sedan series. The new name reflected Volvo's new strategy of naming vehicles depending on size and body style. Thus, the 850 was deemed to be a relative size 70. The name is then appended with the type of vehicle. So the station wagon adopted V (for Versatility), S (for Saloon) and C (for the new Coupé); these cars are respectively known as V70, S70 and C70. There were 1,800 improved and new parts in the design from the original 850, including upgraded passive and active safety, better handling and new engines. Gone were the 850's square edges and replaced by rounded corners to suit the late 90s style trend. Other changes included a new 'family face' for the V/S/C70 models, colour coded bumpers, clear indicator lenses, and a new dashboard fascia and materials. However, on the whole, one could say the car was similar to its predecessor, but nevertheless, a successful facelift.




[edit] First generation variants

Volvo V70-XCV70 variants included Torslanda — named after its assembly plant, Torslandaverken — SE and CD.

Option packages included:

Sports - with alloy wheels, rear spoiler, and fog lamps.
Comfort - child seat, air conditioning or electric sunroof, and trip computer.
Luxury - leather upholstery with electric driver's seat, climate control and cruise control,wood fascia trim, RTI, and Rear Seat Entertainment
Estate - roof rails, self-levelling rear suspension, and luggage net.
Winter - headlamp wash/wipe, heated front seats and traction control.
Design - red wood/leather steering wheel, red wood-effect trim, and leather upholstery.
[edit] First generation models
S70
S70 R (2.3 litre)
V70
V70 R (2.3 litre)
V70 R AWD (2.3-2.4 litre)
V70 XC AWD
T5 and R models are high-performance models. The T5 was equipped with a sport-tuned high pressure turbocharged 2.3L engine with maximum boost pressure set at 10.5 PSI, and 'turbine' alloy wheels, whereas the Turbo models had a low pressure turbocharged 2.4L engine with maximum boost pressure at 7-8 PSI. The R was fitted with a full factory fitted body kit (chin spoiler and rear spoiler, anthracite alloy wheels) a range of unique colours.

There were 3 phases of R-AWD produced for the United Kingdom market between 1997 and 2000:-

Phase 1 :- were produced from 1997 till February 1999 (UK P - S reg) and were available with either the B5234T-4 (2319cc) engine (18T turbo 250 bhp/350 Nm)and 5-speed manual gearbox or the B5234T-6 engine (16T turbo 240 bhp/310 Nm) and 4-speed 3 mode automatic gearbox. Both engines used the Motronic 4.4 engine management system. (0-60 7.3/8.1, 152/143mph)


1999–2000 Volvo V70 station wagon (Australia)Phase 2 :- were produced from March 1999 (UK S - T reg) and were only available with the B5234T-8 (2319cc) engine (18T turbo 250 bhp/310 Nm) and 4-speed adaptive automatic gearbox. These cars use the ME7 engine management system with fly-by-wire throttle and variable exhaust camshaft valve timing. (0-60 7.8 143mph)

Phase 3 :- were produced from September 1999 till March 2000 (UK V - W reg) and were only available with the larger B5244RT (2435cc) engine (19T turbo 265 bhp/350 Nm) and 5-speed adaptive automatic gearbox. Engine used stronger internal components. These also use the ME7 engine management system, Fly-by-wire and VVT. These cars were fitted with twin tail pipes (first time Volvo fitted twin exhaust system), WHIPS" system and larger side SIPS airbags for head protection and vented rear performance disc's. (0-60 7.2 155mph) Latest generation of Road Traffic Information Satellite Navigation used on the Phase III’s, this is the same CD based system used by Volvo up until 2003 and on the C70 till 2005. Roof rails were changed now the same as V70XC. Volvo sold 74 Phase III’s in the UK, split by colour: Black stone 5, Nautic Blue Pearl 10, Dark Olive Pearl 3, Silver Metallic 17, Laser Blue Metallic 33, Venetian Red Pearl 6

Trim and spec levels remained virtually un-changed throughout the 3 phases. Trim was Leather and Alcantara in either Beige or Grey/Black with aluminium trim on the dash and console (dark wood was an option on P1 and P2 cars). On P1 cars the steering wheel was also leather/alcantara, but phase 2 and 3 had a thicker rimmed leather only wheel. Phase II and III had blue engine covers. Phase 3 cars had the option of contrasting grey/beige trim. These cars were virtually "fully-loaded" with very few options available (mainly pro-logic (£600stg), 6 CD boot mounted changer (£600stg), RTI-Satellite Navigation(£2500stg)) as they cost £37,000stg when new.

All phases were available with either 16" or 17" wheels in either silver or anthracite with temp spare wheel. 17" Wheels were £100stg more expensive.

The colours available were as follows :-

Phase 1 :- Saffron, Black Stone, Nautic Blue, Silver, Regency Red

Phase 2 :- Laser Blue, Black Stone, Nautic Blue Pearl, Silver Metallic, Cassis, Venetian Red Pearl, Dark Olive Green

Phase 3 :- Laser Blue, Black Stone, Nautic Blue Pearl, Silver Metallic, Venetian Red Pearl, Dark Olive Green

[edit] First generation straight-5 engines
2.0 10v
2.0 Turbo 163 bhp (122 kW; 165 PS)
2.3
2.3 Turbo
2.3 R 236 bhp (176 kW; 239 PS) in 1998
2.3 R 247 bhp (184 kW; 250 PS) in 1999
2.4 R 265 bhp (198 kW; 269 PS) in 2000
2.4 10v 140 bhp (104 kW; 142 PS)
2.4 20v 164 bhp (122 kW; 166 PS)
2.4 Turbo 190 bhp (142 kW; 193 PS)
2.5 10v 140 bhp (104 kW; 142 PS)
2.5 20v 170 bhp (127 kW; 172 PS)
2.5 Turbo
2.5 AWD 193 bhp (144 kW; 196 PS)
2.5 T5 (Turbo 5-cylinder) 225 bhp (168 kW; 228 PS)
2.5 TDI (Audi engine)
[edit] Safety
The S70 scored four stars out of five in the EuroNCAP safety testing for adult occupant protection. Seven points were granted in the frontal impact test. Full marks, 16 out of 16 were granted in the side test. SIPS Side Impact Protection System was standard equipment on the 70 series and so the car was awarded a further two points in the pole test.

The S70 scored four of five stars for front impact protection for driver and front passenger in the NHTSA safety testing and five out of five stars for driver and rear passenger side impact protection.

The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety granted the 850/S70 their highest rating of "good" for front crash protection. Rear crash protection was rated as "good". Volvo's WHIPS system, 1999 and newer, prevents whiplash by a seatback hinge mechanism that is standard equipment. There were no side impact tests conducted on behalf of the IIHS for the Volvo V70.

[edit] Second generation (1999–2007)
Second generation
Production 2001–2007
Assembly Torslanda, Sweden
Ghent, Belgium
Platform Volvo P2 platform
Engine(s) 2.0L Turbo I5, 2.4L I5, 2.4L CNG/LPG I5, 2.4L Turbo I5, 2.5L Turbo I5, 2.4L Diesel I5
Transmission(s) 5-speed manual, 6-speed manual, 5-speed automatic, 6-speed automatic
Wheelbase 2,756 mm (108.5 in)
XC: 2,764 mm (108.8 in)
Length 4,709 mm (185.4 in)
XC: 4,732 mm (186.3 in)
Width 1,803 mm (71.0 in)
XC: 1,859 mm (73.2 in)
Height 1,491 mm (58.7 in)
XC: 1,562 mm (61.5 in)
2003-07: 1,466 mm (57.7 in)
R: 1,448 mm (57.0 in)
Fuel capacity 70 L (18 US gal; 15 imp gal)

Volvo V70 R (US)
2005-2007 Volvo V70 (US)In the end of 1999 (2001 for North America), Volvo released the all-new V70 based on the new P2 platform which itself was first used for the entirely Swedish-designed Volvo S80 sedan in 1997. This new car dispensed with the boxy shape of Volvos before it to take on a curvy profile much like the S40/S60 series, and added a new aggressive front end. Where the first generation V70 had a saloon variant (S70), the second generation lost the S70 as the new S80 was now seen to be the 'S70 for the new millennium'. The second generation of the V70 finished production for model year 2007.

The V70 shares the same sheet metal ahead of the B-pillar with the Volvo S60, although the grilles are different and the front bumpers are mildly different. The dashboard and the majority of the interior of both cars are the same.

The V70 XC received a major upgrade on its suspension and equipped with 8.2" min. ground clearance.

As was the case with all P2 platform Volvos, a minor refresh of the V70 occurred across all markets for the 2005 model year, which brought minor styling changes to the front fascia, tail lamps, along with several improvements and changes to the interior fittings.

[edit] Technical
In the US market the V70 is available as front or all-wheel drive (AWD) with automatic Geartronic 5-speed transmissions. A 5-speed manual transmission was offered on the base 2.4 version, but few dealers stocked it. As before, there is an AWD-only off-road version with raised suspension, plastic body cladding and an interior grab handle. This version previously known as the V70 XC (Cross Country) was renamed to XC70 for this new model line.

Also following on from the previous generation was the use of five-cylinder, 20 valve inline transverse-mounted engines. All but the bottom range 2.4 employ turbochargers with either low or high pressure depending on the model. The V70 five cylinder turbo engines in the US market are the base V70 2.5 L light-pressure turbo straight-5 with 208 hp (155 kW) at 5,000 rpm; Torque 236 lb·ft (320 N·m) at 1,500-4,500 rpm and the V70 T5 2.4 L high-pressure turbo straight-5 with 257 hp (192 kW) at 5,500 rpm; Torque 258 lb·ft (350 N·m) at 2,100-5,000 rpm. For the US market both of these engines are exclusively mated to a 5-speed Geartronic automatic transmission.
This 2.4 L high-pressure turbo straight-5 "T5" engine is used in a variety of Volvos and as with most stock performance turbo engines the power output is quite limited by the stock Volvo engine tuning. Volvo 2.4l T5 turbo engines can easily be "chip-tuned" to deliver 280 bhp (209 kW; 284 PS) and up to 315 bhp (235 kW; 319 PS) with a custom tune. The ultra high performance all-wheel drive V70R, using the same 2.5 L engine in ultra high performance tune produces 300 bhp (224 kW; 304 PS) and 400 N·m (300 ft·lbf). The V70R is equipped with Volvo's 4C multi-mode suspension developed in conjunction with suspension experts Öhlins allowing the driver to vary the cars handling depending on driving style and conditions. The V70R AWD has also larger Brembo brakes to provide high performance braking capabilities in line with its high performance characteristics.

[edit] Third generation (2007-present)
Third generation
Production 2007–present
Assembly Torslanda, Sweden
Class Executive car
Platform Y20 platform
Engine(s) 2.0L (4-cyl), 2.0L (Flexifuel, 4-cyl), 2.5L Turbo I5, 2.5L FT (Flexifuel, 5-cyl), 3.2L I6, 3.0L Turbo I6, 2.4L hp Diesel I5, 2.0L Diesel I4
Transmission(s) 5-speed manual, 6-speed manual, 5-speed automatic, 6-speed automatic
Wheelbase 2,816 mm (110.9 in)
XC: 2,815 mm (110.8 in)
Length 4,823 mm (189.9 in)
XC: 4,838 mm (190.5 in)
Width 2,106 mm (82.9 in)
XC: 2,119 mm (83.4 in)
Height 1,547 mm (60.9 in)
XC: 1,604 mm (63.1 in)
Fuel capacity 70 L (18 US gal; 15 imp gal)
Designer Thomas Alvoid

Volvo V70 (Europe)The third V70 was officially unveiled by Volvo on 2 February 2007. The new V70 car was positioned and equipped to be slightly more up-market than the previous model albeit being of the same size. Despite this fact the rear-seat legroom was increased by two centimetres and a revised tailgate design increases the load area volume by 55 L. The tailgate has optional motorized lift and closing action.

The Ford EUCD platform is used underneath the new V70 and much of the interior (other than the rear seats and loadbay) are shared with the second generation S80. Since the new V70 is only available as a FWD platform based on the new S80 platform the US market V70/XC70 AWD are only available with the S80 FWD drivetrain, a 3.2 L I6 engine producing 235 hp (175 kW) at 6,200 rpm; Torque 236 lb·ft (320 N·m) at 3,200 rpm mated to a 6-speed Geartronic automatic transmission. The S80 AWD engine choices, a 3.0L turbo-six with 281 hp (210 kW) at 5,600 rpm, Torque 295 lb·ft (400 N·m) at 1,500-4,800 rpm and a 4.4L V8 with 311 hp (232 kW) at 5,950 rpm, Torque 325 lb·ft (441 N·m) at 3,950 rpm are currently not available in the V70 since they require the S80 AWD platform. To date there are no plans known to bring a high performance AWD V70 on the US market.
The high performance V70R AWD as well as the 5-cylinder turbo engine range mated to a 5-speed Geartronic automatic transmissions of the previous V70 generation were all discontinued.
Even though it is the "corresponding" sedan, the US-market S60 series is still based on the older platform and offers two drivetrain options of older design, the 2.5 L light-pressure turbo straight-5 with 208 hp (155 kW) at 5,000 rpm; Torque 236 lb·ft (320 N·m) 1,500-4,500 rpm and the 2.4 L high-pressure turbo straight-5 with 257 hp (192 kW) at 5,500 rpm; Torque 258 lb·ft (350 N·m) at 2,100-5,000 rpm. Both US market S60 engines are turbo fives and are exclusively mated to a 5-speed Geartronic automatic transmission. No manual transmissions or diesel engines so popular in other world markets are available for the US market V70 or S60 at this time. A manual transmission is available in the S60R.

[edit] Comfort
The front seats and the rear bench are of orthopedic design to provide maximum comfort and support for all occupants. The V70 also features a high-end audio system. Dolby Pro Logic systems and sub-woofers are also available as upgrades to the standard audio system.

Options include DVD navigation with map data and remote control, a rear seat DVD entertainment system with two headrest monitors, headlamp washers, integrated child booster seats, an integrated home link remote control garage door opener, rear-door child-safety locks, rear park assist, power-adjustable passenger seats with 3-position memory and lumbar support, heated front seats, an integrated grocery bag holder, a rear view mirror compass, an integrated sunglass holder, an auto-dimming rearview mirror, a power glass moonroof, 12 volt power outlets, leather seats, rear tinted windows, and a rain sensor.

Anti-submarining seats and overhead-mounted seat belt reminder lights come standard. Other standard features for 2007 include Volvo on call roadside assistance for four years, rear window deactivation, safe approach and home safe lighting, a security system, engine immobilizer with encrypted ignition key, key integrated remote control with central power door locks, an outside temperature gauge, a tire pressure monitoring system, cruise control, a trip computer, driver information display, a power-adjustable driver seat with 3-position memory and lumbar support, ergonomically designed seats, 60/40 split-folding rear seats, flat-folding front passenger seats, aluminum integrated handle bar for front passenger, illuminated vanity mirrors in driver/front passenger sun visors, four reading lamps, cargo security cover, front center armrest, rear seat ventilation outlets on B-pillar, dual-zone electronic climate control, power windows with driver and passenger auto up/down with anti-trap feature, tilt/telescoping steering wheel with illuminated controls, remote audio controls in steering wheel, and much more.

[edit] Safety
As standard, the vehicle is equipped with driver, passenger, side and curtain airbags. Also featured is the WHIPS whiplash prevention system on the front seats.

An available option is third row seating; these seats are located in the crumple zone.

Later cars have the option of the BLIS blind-spot sensor system, that can detect vehicles otherwise hidden from view of the driver due to being just off to one side of the car.

As is typical for Volvos, all models feature daytime running lights to improve driver visibility and safety throughout the day. If an XC70 owner desires to have their daytime running lights turned off, they may do so at any authorized Volvo dealership.

The latest revision of the XC70 includes DSTC (standard on all models) - Dynamic Stability and Traction control, that combines the functions otherwise known as Electronic Stability Program and traction control.

EuroNCAP evaluated the V70 in 2007 awarding it 5 of 5 stars for adult occupant protection. The V70 scored 15 of 16 points in the front test and 16 of 16 in the side test. The car was penalised 1 point in the pole test for improper deployment of the curtain airbag in both the original test and the re-test. The car received one of two points available in the pole test. The V70 was granted an additional two points for seat belt reminders of three available in this catergory. The V70 received a total of 34 of 37 points and therefore five stars (33-37) in EuroNCAP's evaluation.

The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety awarded the Volvo S80 (sedan varriant) their Top Safety Pick award. The S80 was granted the IIHS's highest rating of "good" in front, side and rear tests and has Electronic Stability Control as standard equipment to receive the award.

[edit] References
^ "Volvo V70 Marketing Positioning" (PDF). Volvoclub.org, Volvo Press Release. http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/press/volvo2003uk/v70/V70_Fulldoc.pdf.
[edit] External links
Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Volvo V70
Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Volvo XC70
Volvo V70
www.V70R.com
www.volvoforum.com Volvo Forum
2009 Volvo XC70 Review Automoblog.net

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I 'm all out of 'thanks', I'm so lost without you
I know you were right, believing for so long
I 'm all out of 'thanks', what am I without you
I can't be too late, to say that I was so wrong


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lol

[But is it really a Volvo?]

i give up cus you are not listening or reading, and as i said then volvo must be wrong aswell as me and others on here and obviously you designed and built all those cars so you are RIGHT. Anyway can we get back on topic and help flash b out
That's what I've been trying to do all along.

Hence my question as to what possible bearing the minor differences between V70, S80 and S60 might have on front suspension wear.

But some pedantic troll chose to pick an argument on V70 DNA.

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S60 spec

The Volvo S60 is a compact executive sedan produced by the Swedish automaker Volvo. An all-new S60 is expected for the 2011 model year.[citation needed]

Contents [hide]
1 First generation
1.1 S60 Police specification (UK & EU)
1.2 S60 R
1.3 Engines
2 Second generation
2.1 Concept
3 S60 in motorsport
4 See also
5 References
6 External links


[edit] First generation
First generation
Production 2000 – 2009[1]
Platform Volvo P2 platform
Engine(s) 2.4 L 168 hp I5
2.4 L 197 hp I5
2.5 L 208 hp I5
2.3 L 247 hp I5
2.5 L 300 hp I5
Transmission(s) 5-speed automatic
5-speed manual
6-speed manual
6-Speed automatic
Wheelbase 2001-02: 2,713 mm (106.8 in)
2003-08: 2,715 mm (106.9 in)
Length 2001-05: 4,581 mm (180.4 in)
2006-08: 4,602 mm (181.2 in)
2003-05 R: 4,605 mm (181.3 in)
4,638 mm (182.6 in)
Width 2001-05: 1,813 mm (71.4 in)
2006-08: 1,823 mm (71.8 in)
Height 1,433 mm (56.4 in)
2003-05 R: 1,397 mm (55.0 in)
2006-08 R: 1,436 mm (56.5 in)
Curb weight 1,462–1,552 kg (3,220–3,420 lb)
Fuel capacity 70 L (18 US gal; 15 imp gal)
Related Volvo V70
Volvo S80
Volvo XC90
The S60 marked a clean break for Volvo from the boxy design that many stereotyped the brand with in 1980s and 90s. Its design, done by a design team lead by Peter Horbury, built upon the styling of the S80 and was the most marked departure from traditional Volvo styling since Horbury joined the firm in 1992. Accordingly, Volvo marketed the car as heralding a “Revolvolution.”

It was built upon Volvo’s P2 platform,[citation needed] which was shared with three other Volvo models: the S80, the V70 and the XC90.

The S60 was refreshed in 2005. The exterior was updated with body-colored side moldings and bumpers, as well as new headlamps. The T5 engine received an increase of 10 bhp.

[edit] S60 Police specification (UK & EU)
Police specification models came about through Volvo’s extensive work alongside the users of the vehicles and Police Fleet Management departments. As a result the Police specification vehicles have a striking difference from original showroom model. Firstly the suspension was up-rated to deal the demands of Police work; this included fitting the front suspension of the D5 model variant (as the suspension was designed to deal with the heavier diesel engine). Nivomat self-levelling suspension was also fitted to the rear to ensure correct geometry of the vehicle, regardless of the weight carried. On early models, the clutch was also replaced with the stronger D5 unit.

A larger specification battery and 110A alternator was also fitted to run all the extra equipment, along with a dedicated Police fuse box in the boot. Extra wiring looms are also fitted specially for the Police radios and other equipment, including CCTV cameras. Additional electrical noise suppression has been added so as not to interfere with the sensitive electronics the police use.

The speedometers in the vehicles are calibrated from the factory and do not require recalibration unless the wheel and overall rolling diameters are changed.

305 mm (12.0 in) vented front disc brakes were also fitted alongside special brake pads (and wear indicators) specially designed to cope with high-speed pursuits.

From 2001–2004 the 2.3 T5 engine was used and 2005 onwards the 2.4 T5 engine is used. Also beyond common speculation and myths, the engines are not chipped or modified specially for police use: they are complete factory spec but in 'exceptional cases' the speed limiter (250 km/h) may have been removed.

[edit] S60 R

2004 Volvo S60RFirst introduced in 2003, Volvo's S60 R boasted AWD (Haldex) mated to a 300 hp (220 kW) / 295 lb·ft (400 N·m) engine. 2004–2005 models came with a 6-speed manual transmission, as well as a 5-speed automatic which allowed only 258 lb·ft (350 N·m) torque in 1st and 2nd gears. 2006–2007 models were available with a 6-speed manual or automatic transmission. The 2006-2007 Automatic Transmission allowed for the full torque of 295 lb·ft (400 N·m) in all gears. Other aspects which drew the R apart from standard S60's were the four piston brakes (BREMBO) front and rear, optional 18" 5 spoke "Pegasus" wheels, blue faced "R" gauges, standard HID headlights, as well as the 4C suspension system. (4C stands for "continuously controlled chassis concept") The 4C feature allowed the user to select from three modes; Comfort, Sport, and Advanced. This tightened the suspension progressively, and also made for a more aggressive throttle response when in "Advanced" mode. This is easily accomplished due to the fact the throttle is drive by wire, meaning the throttle is connected to the accelerator pedal via electronics instead of a traditional cable design. This allows for different throttle maps to be in place, which can be electronically altered to give a different feel when the accelerator is depressed. The S60 R continued the tradition of "R" cars for Volvo beginning in 1995 with the introduction of the 850 T-5 R.

Top Gear reviewed the car in episode 9[2] of series 2. They panned the overly complicated and intrusive traction control system, and it set a slow lap time of 1:35.0. But they also found it to be very comfortable and civilized, and especially recommended the estate version. Jeremy Clarkson noted "More like a miniature version of the Rolls-Royce Phantom than a serious competitor to the BMW M3.

[edit] Engines
2.4; 103 kW (140 PS; 138 hp) , 220 N·m (160 lb·ft) , petrol
2.4i: 125 kW (170 PS; 168 hp) , 230 N·m (170 lb·ft) , petrol
2.0T: 132 kW (179 PS; 177 hp) , 240 N·m (180 lb·ft) , petrol, turbo
2.4T: 145 kW (197 PS; 194 hp) , 285 N·m (210 lb·ft) , petrol, turbo (2001 - 2004)
2.5T 155 kW (211 PS; 208 hp) , 320 N·m (240 lb·ft) , petrol, turbo (2005 - 2009)
2.3 T5: 184 kW (250 PS; 247 hp) , 330 N·m (240 lb·ft) , petrol, turbo (2001 - 2004)
2.4 T5: 191 kW (260 PS; 256 hp) , 350 N·m (260 lb·ft) , petrol, turbo (2005 - 2009)
R: 224 kW (305 PS; 300 hp) , 400 N·m (300 lb·ft) , petrol, turbo
D: 96 kW (131 PS; 129 hp) , 280 N·m (210 lb·ft) , diesel, turbo (2002 - 2005)
D: 93 kW (126 PS; 125 hp) , 300 N·m (220 lb·ft) , diesel, turbo (2006 - 2009)
2.4D: 120 kW (163 PS; 161 hp) , 340 N·m (250 lb·ft) , diesel, turbo (2001 - 2005)
D5: 136 kW (185 PS; 182 hp) , 400 N·m (300 lb·ft) , diesel, turbo (2006 - 2009)
2.4 Bi-Fuel CNG: 103 kW (140 PS; 138 hp) , 192 N·m (142 lb·ft) , CNG/petrol
2.4 Bi-Fuel LPG: 103 kW (140 PS; 138 hp) , 192 N·m (142 lb·ft) , LPG/petrol
[edit] Second generation
Second generation Production start 2010
Assembly Ghent, Belgium
Platform Volvo P24 platform
Engine(s) 1.6 L I4 130/150-180 hp
2.0 L I4 200+ hp
2.5 L I5 LPT
3.2 L I6
2.4 L I5 turbodiesel
The second generation S60 will begin production in Ghent, Belgium in early summer 2010. Official photos were released in November 2009, and the car will be publicly unveiled at the Geneva Motor Show in March 2010.[3]

This new sedan will show off Volvo's completely new design language already seen in the Volvo XC60 concept. It will ride on the same platform as the XC60. Volvo has confirmed that the new S60 will become the true new rival for the Mercedes C-Class, Audi A4 and the BMW 3-series, as Volvo is undergoing new product alignment. The S60 will shrink in size to fit this role more precisely and avoid any confusion with the S80. New features would include the new large Volvo iron symbol, parallel to the grille day running lamps, and larger spaced letters in the brand name on rear. A new safety feature, Pedestrian Detection, will be added to automatically apply brakes if a pedestrian is detected in front of the car and the driver does not react in time.

[edit] Concept

The S60 Concept at the 2009 Geneva Motor ShowIn 2008, Volvo Cars announced the Volvo S60 Concept, which features a four-cylinder 1.6L petrol engine using highly-efficient Gasoline Turbocharged Direct Injection (GTDi) developed by Ford (mechanical clone of the new Ford EcoBoost 1.6L engine).[4] The concept car was exhibited in several automobile shows in 2009, and SimBin has released a free game based on the GTR game engine that lets you drive the S60 Concept.

[edit] S60 in motorsport
In 2006, At Speed Motorsports entered an all-wheel-drive S60R in five races of the Speed World Challenge GT class. It was driven by Michael Galati and finished 14th in the overall standings, winning one race (at Mosport). The S60 is the car of the factory Volvo team in the Swedish Touring Car Championship, where it has finished 2nd in the drivers' championship twice and won the manufacturers' title once.

In 2009, two S60s will contest the full Speed World Challenge GT Championship run by K-Pax Racing, with former champion Andy Pilgrim and defending champion Randy Pobst as drivers.

The 2004 S60 R is featured in the Xbox 360 games Forza Motorsport 2 and Race Pro.

[edit] See also
Volvo 850
Volvo S40
[edit] References
^ "Volvo S60 ceases production in Ghent". autoblog.com/2009/04/10. http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/10/volvo-s60-ceases-production-in-ghent/. Retrieved 2009-04-11.
^ BBC - Top Gear - Episode Archive - Series 2 - Episode 9
^ Volvo Cars (2009-11-10). "Sculpted to move you - first pictures of the all-new Volvo S60". Press release. http://www.volvocars.com/intl/top/about/news-events/Pages/default.aspx?itemid=102.
^ 2010 Volvo S60 Concept Offers Look at EcoBoosted 1.6-liter Engine
[edit] External links
Volvo S60 - Official page
Volvo S60 Review
Widebody S60R - S60R Build Sponsored By AtSpeed Motorsports
IIHS Safety Test for Volvo S60
S60R Owner & Enthusiast Site
New Volvo S60 & V60 - news blog

[thebadger]

The years overlap a bit as they stopped production, but the message is on point.

V70 is not an estate S80.

[T5ER]

That's what I've been trying to do all along.

Hence my question as to what possible bearing the minor differences between V70, S80 and S60 might have on front suspension wear.

But some pedantic troll chose to pick an argument on V70 DNA.

so now i am a pendantic troll am i

[T5ER]

The years overlap a bit as they stopped production, but the message is on point.

V70 is not an estate S80.

thankyou badger

[cornclose]

Oh, what are you thinking of?
What are you thinking of?
Oh, what are you thinking of?
What are you thinking of?

:o

[T5ER]

LET ME BE THE FIRST TO SAY THIS PUBLICLY.

F. O. A. D. TROLL

and from now on you will be the only one on my 'Ignore' list. . . .

thankyou, lol hopefully its not me who you will be ignoring

[thebadger]

Could be me, but I've been in an S80, I own a V70 & I really cannot see how anyone would say they're the same car.

I'd guess he (and yes, you know I mean you "But is it really a Volvo") aspires to own a V70 & thus assumes he has one... with a different boot?

[But is it really a Volvo?]

This thread is hilarious.

But a bit worrying quite how angry certain contributors have become.

Blame t5 stealth.
He started it all.

[thebadger]

Substitute anger for bemusement....

[cornclose]

Substitute anger for bemusement....

Or amusement...

[S60-MBS]

For a second I thought I logged back on to "other" Volvo forums.

[thebadger]

Yeah, he's a bit of a.....https://www.totalofficesupplies.co.uk/catalog/images/166241.jpg

[T5ER]

pmsl badger that is quality

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Some posters need to calm it down a bit.

They just don't seem to realise how undignified their bitching makes them look.

[gazbak1]

can you please let Volvo's Daventry training centre know that the s80 = v70 as when i did my apprenticeship there they told me s60 = v70!!!

plus a honors degree in mechanics!! **** me even Jeramey Clarkson can get one of them and he know **** all about car mechanics.

if you work in the motor trade **** me im leaving it. i would hate to be in the same job type as you

[dave stew]

Or amusement...

Or exhaustion... I've just sat down with a sandwich and a brew at work for a bit of a surf around and instead been amused and confused by this monumental thread.

Wow.

Change the drop links.

I reckon.

[cornclose]

And it's not even Friday Dave!

[dave stew]

Oh, for what it's worth I have replaced by S80 estate's front suspension with the following components:

Track rods and track rod ends - why? Slight clunk on full lock and a bit of steering play.
Then... wishbone bushes - why? Excessive torque steer and an MOT advisory
Then... Drop links - why? Loud clonking over speed ramps
Then... New dampers all round - why? 145,000 miles and a feeling a bit baggy.

I am a very lucky guy. Volvo built my S80 estate with a five pot T5 engine and manual transmission. Just like quite a few S60s....

[But is it really a Volvo?]

can you please let Volvo's Daventry training centre know that the s80 = v70 as when i did my apprenticeship there they told me s60 = v70!!!
Shame on them.


plus a honors degree in mechanics!! **** me even Jeramey Clarkson can get one of them and he know **** all about car mechanics.
Now now, you're starting to sound like you've got a chip.
(And BTW, its spelt Honours)


if you work in the motor trade **** me im leaving it. i would hate to be in the same job type as you
Well at least we can agree on something, can't we (me old ££££) ? ;)

[dave stew]

And it's not even Friday Dave!

I have spent most of the morning arguing with scaffolders and the next door tenants. Joy.

Makes the S80 idiot in this thread look quite knowledgable.

[But is it really a Volvo?]

And it's not even Friday Dave!

No, Dave.

[dave stew]

Oh yes, a quick thought. I was trying to buy a 4WD S80R with a 2.5litre T5 engine in it.

Couldn't find one.

There is an S60 version though. Spooky.

[dave stew]

No, Dave.

Oh dear.

Back to those scaffolders, can't be arsed with you today.

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Oh dear.

Back to those scaffolders, can't be arsed with you today.
Come back another day. ;)

[irf]

http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/6/17/633492616264331910-arrogance.jpg

[But is it really a Volvo?]

I have spent most of the morning arguing with scaffolders and the next door tenants.
Why was that ?

[irf]

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/fetus_eater/Ignorance.png

[T5ER]

you have been told by a volvo mechanic, a volvo employee that the V70 is not a S80 estate and yet you still think you are right so as i have said ARE VOLVO THEMSELVES WRONG IF SO CONTATC THEM. Jesus give me strength

[T5ER]

love the second pic irf pure quality

[T5ER]

and as my mother in law says " YOU CANT EDUCATE A IDIOT " rings true me thinks to some people

[But is it really a Volvo?]

you have been told by a volvo mechanic, a volvo employee that the V70 is not a S80 estate and yet you still think you are right so as i have said ARE VOLVO THEMSELVES WRONG IF SO CONTATC THEM. Jesus give me strength
I'm not saying they're not entitled to their opinions.
Of course they are.

[irf]

http://passionweiss.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/idiot2.jpg

[MIKESC70T5]

Is my c70 really a c70 then, if it's not i hope i can call it a phase 3 v70r as it's about the same sort of length lol.

[But is it really a Volvo?]

and as my mother in law says " YOU CANT EDUCATE A IDIOT " rings true me thinks to some people
Well, the UK university system managed pretty well with this one, eh ?

[T5ER]

really lol, did not go to uni i am affraid so i dont fall into that category

[irf]

http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/67/94/2425620613_029a8913b0.0.0.0x0.300x337.jpeg

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Is my c70 really a c70 then, if it's not i hope i can call it a phase 3 v70r as it's about the same sort of length lol.
No, in my considered opinion, that's as much a C70 as makes no difference.

But as you say, the similarity in length might to the uninitiated, cause some confusion.

[But is it really a Volvo?]

really lol, did not go to uni i am affraid so i dont fall into that category
Trust me, you don't need a degree to be an idiot.

[MIKESC70T5]

Trust me, you don't need a degree to be an idiot.

So your were just an idiot but now your an idiot with letters after your name.

[thebadger]

I'd say four letters.... one of them's a T...

[But is it really a Volvo?]

I'd say four letters.... one of them's a T...
Is that a recognized qualification ?

BTW, are you The Badger off the telly ?

[T5ER]

right here is to clarify another point but please NOTE THAT THIS ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR THE NEW V70 NOT ANY OF THE OLDER VERSIONS

The Volvo S80 is a mid-size executive sedan from Swedish automaker Volvo and was introduced in 1998 as a replacement for the rear-wheel drive Volvo 960/S90 sedan. The Volvo S80 was built at the Torslanda Plant (Torslandaverken) in Gothenburg, Sweden. Unlike most Volvo models, it did not have a station wagon version for its first generation. Now, the third generation V70 wagon is marketed as the estate version for the second generation S80 sedan. This is a part of a major product overhaul at Volvo, including a most luxurious large estate and sedan.

The first generation was notable for being one of the first Volvos to depart from the company's traditionally boxy, conservative styling. The S80's styling, with its pronounced beltlines and tail lights that narrow and go from curves to points as they go up, was later adopted throughout the Volvo line, especially on the S60 and S40 sedans.

The Volvo S80 engines have developed a reputation for reliability and excellent performance, proving a match for BMW, Mercedes Benz and other comparable executive car manufacturers.

The first generation Volvo S80 had one of the highest crash test ratings in the world for five years.[citation needed] The second generation Volvo S80 in June 2007 scored the highest "good" rating in the IIHS crash test performance for frontal, side, and rear impacts [1], continuing in the success of the first S80 sedan, earning it the IIHS Top Safety Pick. The second generation S80 is better engineered than the previous model, in part due to a stiffer more rigid chassis.

Contents [hide]
1 First generation
1.1 Engines
2 Second generation
2.1 Engines
2.2 S80L
2.3 2010 update
3 See also
4 References
5 External links


[edit] First generation
First generation
Production 1998–2006
Platform Volvo P2 platform
Engine(s) 2.0 I5 LPT
2.4 L I5
2.4 L CNG/LPG I5
2.5 L I5 LPT
2.9 L I6
2.8/2.9 L twin-turbocharged I6
2.4 L I5 Turbo Diesel
2.5 L I5 Turbo Diesel [2]
Transmission(s) 4 speed geartronic automatic
5-speed automatic
5-speed manual
6-speed manual
Wheelbase 2,790 mm (109.8 in)
Length 4,820 mm (189.8 in)
2004-06: 4,849 mm (190.9 in)
Width 1,830 mm (72.0 in)
Height 1,435 mm (56.5 in)
Fuel capacity 70 l (15.4 imp gal; 18.5 US gal) (2.4 & Diesels)
80 l (17.6 imp gal; 21.1 US gal) (others)
Related Ford Five Hundred
Ford Freestyle
Mercury Montego
Volvo S60
Volvo V70
Volvo XC90
The first generation S80 is based on the Ford D3 platform. More than 368,000 first generation S80s were built before the introduction of the new model.[3]. The all-new S80's styling, with its pronounced beltlines and tail lights that narrow and go from curves to points as they go up, is often jokingly referred to as "In S80, S stands for Sexy".

This S80 sedan being Volvo's flagship model was heavily equipped with numerous safety systems to ensure all occupants safety, including SIPS and WHIPS.[4]

The S80 has three firsts for passenger cars. The first was the use of a built-in, fully integrated GSM phone, complete with both a hands free function and a lift-up hand-set. The second was the fitment of the straight six engine in a transverse mounting. Volvo claims to be the first manufacturer to succeed in mass producing this configuration "in modern time"[4], although this is quite false, since British Leyland produced passenger cars using the E6 engine from 1970 to 1981 in cars such as the Austin Kimberley and Austin Princess.[5] No existing manual gearbox would fit in the engine bay with the six cylinder engine, so Volvo had to develop their own, claimed to be the world's smallest manual gearbox, the M65. The previous record holder was also a Volvo gearbox, the M56 developed to fit the wide 5 cylinder transverse engine first used in the 850 series cars.[6] Thirdly, the S80 was the world's first car with an environmental specification, covering aspects such as those directly relating to the car such as allergens from textiles and fuel economy and the life cycle of the car from production to dismantling.[7]

For Volvo, the S80 was a major step forward into the age of modern car design, particularly with the use of multiplex wiring.[8] It is said that the S80 has more than 40 onboard computers, with at least one in every door. A popular expression says there's more electronics in the S80 than in the F15 fighter.

The S80 was initially available with four different engines. Starting the range was a detuned 2.4-litre 140 hp 5-cylinder. This was also available as a CNG and as an LPG version. The fully tuned version produced 170 PS (125 kW). Next up was a 2.9 L 196 PS (144 kW) 6-cylinder, then 272 PS (200 kW) T6 and finally, the 140 PS (102 kW) 2.5 L TDI (diesel). The 2.9 has a Straight-6 engine while the T6 was powered by a destroked twin-turbocharged version.[4] In 2000 there was the addition of the 200 hp (149 kW) 2.5T, available with standard all-wheel drive. The 2.5T model featured a light-pressure turbocharger. Late 2001 introduced the 163 PS (120 kW) 5 cylinder common rail diesel D5, detuned to 130 PS (96 kW) and sold as 2.4D in some markets.[2][9] In some European countries the entry level S80 came with a 2.0 litre five-cylinder turbocharged engine producing 182 PS. These were sold in countries where larger capacity engines were penalized by heavy taxes. Minor exterior design changes occurred between 2003 and 2004 versions, notably front grille styling (in pre-2004 version (pictured above), it has vertical metallic pattern - herited from 960 series - , while in 2004 (pictured right) a gray plastic brick-wall pattern was introduced).

[edit] Engines
Year Model Displacement Engine Fuel Power Torque
1998 – 2006 2.4 (140) 2435 cc I5 Petrol 103 kW (140 PS; 138 hp) 220 N·m (162 ft·lbf)
1998 – 2006 2.4 2435 cc I5 Petrol 125 kW (170 PS; 168 hp) 225 N·m (166 ft·lbf)
2000 – 2006 2.0T 1984 cc LPT I5 Petrol (132 kW (180 PS; 178 hp) 280 N·m (207 ft·lbf)
1998 – 2003 2.4T 2435 cc LPT I5 Petrol 147 kW (200 PS; 197 hp) 285 N·m (236 ft·lbf)
2003 – 2006 2.5T 2521 cc LPT I5 Petrol 155 kW (211 PS; 208 hp) 320 N·m (236 ft·lbf)
1998 – 2001 2.9 2922 cc I6 Petrol 150 kW (204 PS; 201 hp) 280 N·m (207 ft·lbf)
1991 – 2004 2.9 2922 cc I6 Petrol 144 kW (196 PS; 193 hp) 280 N·m (207 ft·lbf)
1998 – 2001 T6 2783 cc twin-turbo I6 Petrol 200 kW (272 PS; 268 hp) 380 N·m (280 ft·lbf)
2001 – 2006 T6 2922 cc twin-turbo I6 Petrol 200 kW (272 PS; 268 hp) 380 N·m (280 ft·lbf)
1998 – 2001 TDI (Audi engine) 2460 cc turbocharged I5 Diesel 102 kW (139 PS; 137 hp) 280 N·m (206 ft·lbf)
2001 – 2006 2.4D 2401 cc turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 96 kW (131 PS; 129 hp) 280 N·m (206 ft·lbf)
2001 – 2006 D5 2401 cc turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 120 kW (163 PS; 161 hp) 340 N·m (250 ft·lbf)

[edit] Second generation
Second generation
Production 2006–present
Platform Y20 platform
Engine(s) 1.6L (4cyl diesel), 2.0L (4cyl), 2.0L (Flexifuel, 4-cyl), 2.0L (4cyl diesel), 2.5 L I5 LPT
3.0/3.2 L I6
4.4 L Yamaha V8
2.4 L I5 turbodiesel
Transmission(s) 6-speed automatic
6-speed manual
Wheelbase 2,835 mm (111.6 in)
Length 4,849 mm (190.9 in), 4989mm? (S80L), 5000+mm? (S80R)
Width 1,861 mm (73.3 in)
Height 1,490 mm (58.7 in)
Fuel capacity 70 l (15.4 imp gal; 18.5 US gal)
Related Volvo V70
Land Rover Freelander
Ford Mondeo
On January 31, 2006, Volvo unveiled the first pictures of the second generation S80. Generally all features of the car were upgraded substantially. The new S80 will feature a new 3.2 L straight-6 or 4.4 L V8 engine in combination with available four-wheel drive. The second-generation S80 is the first Volvo sedan model to become available with Volvo's compact, transversely fitted V8 with a power output of 315 PS (232 kW; 311 hp) and 440 N·m (320 lb·ft) of torque developed jointly by Volvo Cars engine unit Skövde and Yamaha but built by Yamaha of Japan. With four catalytic converters and advanced electronics, this engine, which was first introduced in the Volvo XC90, is one of the cleanest V8s on the market. The exterior is similar to that of the first generation but is greatly improved with more high strength boron steel in the body for safety. The interior is seen as one of the most comfortable in the automotive industry.

This second generation S80 is no exception to Volvo's on going improvements and inventions of safety. The second generation S80 has been given the IIHS 2007 Top Safety Pick Award in overall safety protection. Also again in November the IIHS awarded the 2008 Volvo S80 with Top Safety Award. This S80 performed outstandingly above its German and Japanese rivals. Scores were perfect for frontal, side, and rear impacts. The car was unveiled at the Geneva Motor Show on February 28, and sales began on June 2006. The new S80 is based on the Ford EUCD platform (called P24 by Volvo), also used for vehicles including Ford's S-MAX, Mondeo and Galaxy large MPVs.[10] Some of these Ford vehicles, whilst sharing this platform, and some parts, are distincly different from each other as they compete in different auto market segments. Volvo vehicles on this platform tend to use more high tech parts and more expensive underpinnings.

Volvo's Personal Car Communicator (PCC) remote control will also be an optional feature with the new S80. This feature is fairly new to the automotive industry. Before a driver gets to their car, they are able to review the security level and know whether they have set the alarm and if the car is locked. Additionally, there is a heartbeat sensor that warns if someone is hiding inside the car.


Blind spot detector on side mirrors.The all new S80 is the first Volvo model to feature Adaptive cruise control (ACC) with Collision Warning and Brake Support (CWBS). Adaptive cruise control helps ensure comfort and relaxed driving by letting the driver select the desired speed and the minimum time gap to the vehicle in front of them. When a radar sensor detects a slower vehicle in front of them, Adaptive Cruise Control adapts to that vehicle by applying the brakes as necessary. As the Collision Warning System senses an impending collision, it alerts with a flashing light on the windshield and an audible alarm. Meanwhile Brake Support offers additional assistance by preparing the braking system so that the car can begin stopping faster and avoid a potentially dangerous situation before it happens. Volvo S80 is also available with a new safety innovation called Blind Spot Information System (BLIS, first seen in Volvo S40) which senses when a person enters the drivers blind spot and Active Bi-Xenon Lights (ABL) to illuminate around curves in the dark. Volvo is known for making historic strides in the production of intuitive new safety systems. BLIS system has been recently introduced at Mercedes-Benz's higher specification cars, nearly two years after Volvo.[11] The second generation Volvo S80 is much more luxurious than the previous generation, and it flaunts its "Scandinavian Luxury" design language. The second generation S80 has already won awards in best mid size luxury sedan interior.[12]

[edit] Engines
Year Model Displacement Engine Fuel Power Torque CO2 emissions/km
2006- V8 4414 cc V8 Petrol 232 kW (315 PS; 311 hp) 440 N·m (320 lb·ft)
2006- 3.2 3192 cc I6 Petrol 175 kW (238 PS; 235 hp) 320 N·m (240 lb·ft)
2008- T6 2953 cc I6 Petrol 210 kW (285 PS; 281 hp) 400 N·m (300 lb·ft)
2006-2009 2.5T 2521 cc LPT I5 Petrol 147 kW (200 PS; 197 hp) 300 N·m (220 lb·ft)
2008-2009 2.5FT 2521 cc LPT I5 E85/Petrol FlexiFuel 147 kW (200 PS; 197 hp) 300 N·m (220 lb·ft)
2008-2009 2.0 1999 cc I4 Petrol 107 kW (145 PS; 143 hp) 185 N·m (136 lb·ft)
2008-2009 2.0F 1999 cc I4 E85/Petrol FlexiFuel 107 kW (145 PS; 143 hp) 185 N·m (136 lb·ft)
2009- 2.0 1999 cc I4 Petrol 107 kW (145 PS; 143 hp) 190 N·m (140 lb·ft)
2009- 2.0F 1999 cc I4 E85/Petrol FlexiFuel 107 kW (145 PS; 143 hp) 190 N·m (140 lb·ft)
2009- D5 2400 cc twin-turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 151 kW (205 PS; 202 hp) 420 N·m (310 lb·ft)
2009- 2.4D 2400 cc turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 129 kW (175 PS; 173 hp) 420 N·m (310 lb·ft)
2006-2009 D5 2400 cc turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 136 kW (185 PS; 182 hp) 400 N·m (300 lb·ft)
2006-2009 2.4D 2400 cc turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 120 kW (163 PS; 161 hp) 340 N·m (250 lb·ft)
2008- 2.0D 1997 cc turbocharged common rail I4 Diesel 100 kW (136 PS; 134 hp) 320 N·m (240 lb·ft)
2009- 1.6D DRIVe 1560 cc turbocharged common rail I4 Diesel 80 kW (109 PS; 107 hp) 240 N·m (180 lb·ft) 129g
2009- 2.5T 2521 cc LPT I5 Petrol 170 kW (231 PS; 228 hp) 340 N·m (250 lb·ft)
2009- 2.5FT 2521 cc LPT I5 E85/Petrol FlexiFuel 170 kW (231 PS; 228 hp) 340 N·m (250 lb·ft)

[edit] S80L
A long wheelbase version manufactured in China, called the Volvo S80L, was launched locally in November 2008. It is 140 mm (5.5 in) longer, to increase rear passenger legroom.[13]

[edit] 2010 update
New features include a choice of 5-cylinder 2.4L D5 twin turbo diesel, 2.4L diesel, or 1.6L diesel engine. Also the 2.5T and 2.5FT were modified to produce more power and have a lower fuel consumption. The car's exterior was modified to give the S80 a lower, longer and wider stance. More chrome trim were added to the front, the rear end the doors to look like the S80 Executive. The 2010 Volvo S80 facelift also comes with a choice between a comfort-enhancing standard chassis or a sport one that offers better handling dynamics. The 2010 S80 will be available with a S80 R-design interior package to give the inside a sportier look. The interior package contains a new sports steering wheel, sports pedals, Dynamic leather seats, sports gearshift knob and a new combi instrument with blue background.

The car was unveiled in 2009 Geneva Motor Show.[14]

[edit] See also
Volvo ECC
[edit] References
^ IIHS S80 Report
^ a b Volvo 2003 S80 Specification
^ Volvo Owners Club UK S80 production data
^ a b c Volvo Owners Club UK Summary of S80 Launch Press Release
^ Austin Rover.co.uk E series engines
^ Volvo Owners Club UK M65 Gearbox Press Release
^ Volvo Owners Club UK S80 Environment Press Release
^ Volvo Early S80 Press Release
^ Volvo S80 1999 Specifications
^ Wim Oude Weernink and Bradford Wernle. "Building Blocks: Ford learns a lesson from Lego". AutoWeek. http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060330/FREE/60327009/1024/LATESTNEWS. Retrieved March 30 2006.
^ Tech Watch: Mercedes-Benz Ups the Safety Ante With New Blind-Spot Assist
^ Volvo S80 (06-) 3.2 SE Sport 4dr Saloon - Autocar.co.uk
^ Volvo S80L long wheelbase launched in China
^ Geneva Preview: Volvo readies updated S80 for Swiss debut
[edit] External links
Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Volvo S80
Volvo S80 - Official International Volvo S80 Site
Nilsson Special Vehicles - Special vehicles such as limousines based on the Volvo S80 chassis

THIS IS FOR THE NEW V70 AND NEW S80 I.E 2ND GEN S80 AND 3RD GEN V70

[But is it really a Volvo?]

So your were just an idiot but now your an idiot with letters after your name.
Even idiots need respect.

[thebadger]

Look in a mirror, if you recognize who you see in it, congratulations! You've just qualified!

[But is it really a Volvo?]

right here is to clarify another point but please NOTE THAT THIS ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR THE NEW V70 NOT ANY OF THE OLDER VERSIONS

The Volvo S80 is a mid-size executive sedan from Swedish automaker Volvo and was introduced in 1998 as a replacement for the rear-wheel drive Volvo 960/S90 sedan. The Volvo S80 was built at the Torslanda Plant (Torslandaverken) in Gothenburg, Sweden. Unlike most Volvo models, it did not have a station wagon version for its first generation. Now, the third generation V70 wagon is marketed as the estate version for the second generation S80 sedan. This is a part of a major product overhaul at Volvo, including a most luxurious large estate and sedan.

The first generation was notable for being one of the first Volvos to depart from the company's traditionally boxy, conservative styling. The S80's styling, with its pronounced beltlines and tail lights that narrow and go from curves to points as they go up, was later adopted throughout the Volvo line, especially on the S60 and S40 sedans.

The Volvo S80 engines have developed a reputation for reliability and excellent performance, proving a match for BMW, Mercedes Benz and other comparable executive car manufacturers.

The first generation Volvo S80 had one of the highest crash test ratings in the world for five years.[citation needed] The second generation Volvo S80 in June 2007 scored the highest "good" rating in the IIHS crash test performance for frontal, side, and rear impacts [1], continuing in the success of the first S80 sedan, earning it the IIHS Top Safety Pick. The second generation S80 is better engineered than the previous model, in part due to a stiffer more rigid chassis.

Contents [hide]
1 First generation
1.1 Engines
2 Second generation
2.1 Engines
2.2 S80L
2.3 2010 update
3 See also
4 References
5 External links


[edit] First generation
First generation
Production 1998–2006
Platform Volvo P2 platform
Engine(s) 2.0 I5 LPT
2.4 L I5
2.4 L CNG/LPG I5
2.5 L I5 LPT
2.9 L I6
2.8/2.9 L twin-turbocharged I6
2.4 L I5 Turbo Diesel
2.5 L I5 Turbo Diesel [2]
Transmission(s) 4 speed geartronic automatic
5-speed automatic
5-speed manual
6-speed manual
Wheelbase 2,790 mm (109.8 in)
Length 4,820 mm (189.8 in)
2004-06: 4,849 mm (190.9 in)
Width 1,830 mm (72.0 in)
Height 1,435 mm (56.5 in)
Fuel capacity 70 l (15.4 imp gal; 18.5 US gal) (2.4 & Diesels)
80 l (17.6 imp gal; 21.1 US gal) (others)
Related Ford Five Hundred
Ford Freestyle
Mercury Montego
Volvo S60
Volvo V70
Volvo XC90
The first generation S80 is based on the Ford D3 platform. More than 368,000 first generation S80s were built before the introduction of the new model.[3]. The all-new S80's styling, with its pronounced beltlines and tail lights that narrow and go from curves to points as they go up, is often jokingly referred to as "In S80, S stands for Sexy".

This S80 sedan being Volvo's flagship model was heavily equipped with numerous safety systems to ensure all occupants safety, including SIPS and WHIPS.[4]

The S80 has three firsts for passenger cars. The first was the use of a built-in, fully integrated GSM phone, complete with both a hands free function and a lift-up hand-set. The second was the fitment of the straight six engine in a transverse mounting. Volvo claims to be the first manufacturer to succeed in mass producing this configuration "in modern time"[4], although this is quite false, since British Leyland produced passenger cars using the E6 engine from 1970 to 1981 in cars such as the Austin Kimberley and Austin Princess.[5] No existing manual gearbox would fit in the engine bay with the six cylinder engine, so Volvo had to develop their own, claimed to be the world's smallest manual gearbox, the M65. The previous record holder was also a Volvo gearbox, the M56 developed to fit the wide 5 cylinder transverse engine first used in the 850 series cars.[6] Thirdly, the S80 was the world's first car with an environmental specification, covering aspects such as those directly relating to the car such as allergens from textiles and fuel economy and the life cycle of the car from production to dismantling.[7]

For Volvo, the S80 was a major step forward into the age of modern car design, particularly with the use of multiplex wiring.[8] It is said that the S80 has more than 40 onboard computers, with at least one in every door. A popular expression says there's more electronics in the S80 than in the F15 fighter.

The S80 was initially available with four different engines. Starting the range was a detuned 2.4-litre 140 hp 5-cylinder. This was also available as a CNG and as an LPG version. The fully tuned version produced 170 PS (125 kW). Next up was a 2.9 L 196 PS (144 kW) 6-cylinder, then 272 PS (200 kW) T6 and finally, the 140 PS (102 kW) 2.5 L TDI (diesel). The 2.9 has a Straight-6 engine while the T6 was powered by a destroked twin-turbocharged version.[4] In 2000 there was the addition of the 200 hp (149 kW) 2.5T, available with standard all-wheel drive. The 2.5T model featured a light-pressure turbocharger. Late 2001 introduced the 163 PS (120 kW) 5 cylinder common rail diesel D5, detuned to 130 PS (96 kW) and sold as 2.4D in some markets.[2][9] In some European countries the entry level S80 came with a 2.0 litre five-cylinder turbocharged engine producing 182 PS. These were sold in countries where larger capacity engines were penalized by heavy taxes. Minor exterior design changes occurred between 2003 and 2004 versions, notably front grille styling (in pre-2004 version (pictured above), it has vertical metallic pattern - herited from 960 series - , while in 2004 (pictured right) a gray plastic brick-wall pattern was introduced).

[edit] Engines
Year Model Displacement Engine Fuel Power Torque
1998 – 2006 2.4 (140) 2435 cc I5 Petrol 103 kW (140 PS; 138 hp) 220 N·m (162 ft·lbf)
1998 – 2006 2.4 2435 cc I5 Petrol 125 kW (170 PS; 168 hp) 225 N·m (166 ft·lbf)
2000 – 2006 2.0T 1984 cc LPT I5 Petrol (132 kW (180 PS; 178 hp) 280 N·m (207 ft·lbf)
1998 – 2003 2.4T 2435 cc LPT I5 Petrol 147 kW (200 PS; 197 hp) 285 N·m (236 ft·lbf)
2003 – 2006 2.5T 2521 cc LPT I5 Petrol 155 kW (211 PS; 208 hp) 320 N·m (236 ft·lbf)
1998 – 2001 2.9 2922 cc I6 Petrol 150 kW (204 PS; 201 hp) 280 N·m (207 ft·lbf)
1991 – 2004 2.9 2922 cc I6 Petrol 144 kW (196 PS; 193 hp) 280 N·m (207 ft·lbf)
1998 – 2001 T6 2783 cc twin-turbo I6 Petrol 200 kW (272 PS; 268 hp) 380 N·m (280 ft·lbf)
2001 – 2006 T6 2922 cc twin-turbo I6 Petrol 200 kW (272 PS; 268 hp) 380 N·m (280 ft·lbf)
1998 – 2001 TDI (Audi engine) 2460 cc turbocharged I5 Diesel 102 kW (139 PS; 137 hp) 280 N·m (206 ft·lbf)
2001 – 2006 2.4D 2401 cc turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 96 kW (131 PS; 129 hp) 280 N·m (206 ft·lbf)
2001 – 2006 D5 2401 cc turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 120 kW (163 PS; 161 hp) 340 N·m (250 ft·lbf)

[edit] Second generation
Second generation
Production 2006–present
Platform Y20 platform
Engine(s) 1.6L (4cyl diesel), 2.0L (4cyl), 2.0L (Flexifuel, 4-cyl), 2.0L (4cyl diesel), 2.5 L I5 LPT
3.0/3.2 L I6
4.4 L Yamaha V8
2.4 L I5 turbodiesel
Transmission(s) 6-speed automatic
6-speed manual
Wheelbase 2,835 mm (111.6 in)
Length 4,849 mm (190.9 in), 4989mm? (S80L), 5000+mm? (S80R)
Width 1,861 mm (73.3 in)
Height 1,490 mm (58.7 in)
Fuel capacity 70 l (15.4 imp gal; 18.5 US gal)
Related Volvo V70
Land Rover Freelander
Ford Mondeo
On January 31, 2006, Volvo unveiled the first pictures of the second generation S80. Generally all features of the car were upgraded substantially. The new S80 will feature a new 3.2 L straight-6 or 4.4 L V8 engine in combination with available four-wheel drive. The second-generation S80 is the first Volvo sedan model to become available with Volvo's compact, transversely fitted V8 with a power output of 315 PS (232 kW; 311 hp) and 440 N·m (320 lb·ft) of torque developed jointly by Volvo Cars engine unit Skövde and Yamaha but built by Yamaha of Japan. With four catalytic converters and advanced electronics, this engine, which was first introduced in the Volvo XC90, is one of the cleanest V8s on the market. The exterior is similar to that of the first generation but is greatly improved with more high strength boron steel in the body for safety. The interior is seen as one of the most comfortable in the automotive industry.

This second generation S80 is no exception to Volvo's on going improvements and inventions of safety. The second generation S80 has been given the IIHS 2007 Top Safety Pick Award in overall safety protection. Also again in November the IIHS awarded the 2008 Volvo S80 with Top Safety Award. This S80 performed outstandingly above its German and Japanese rivals. Scores were perfect for frontal, side, and rear impacts. The car was unveiled at the Geneva Motor Show on February 28, and sales began on June 2006. The new S80 is based on the Ford EUCD platform (called P24 by Volvo), also used for vehicles including Ford's S-MAX, Mondeo and Galaxy large MPVs.[10] Some of these Ford vehicles, whilst sharing this platform, and some parts, are distincly different from each other as they compete in different auto market segments. Volvo vehicles on this platform tend to use more high tech parts and more expensive underpinnings.

Volvo's Personal Car Communicator (PCC) remote control will also be an optional feature with the new S80. This feature is fairly new to the automotive industry. Before a driver gets to their car, they are able to review the security level and know whether they have set the alarm and if the car is locked. Additionally, there is a heartbeat sensor that warns if someone is hiding inside the car.


Blind spot detector on side mirrors.The all new S80 is the first Volvo model to feature Adaptive cruise control (ACC) with Collision Warning and Brake Support (CWBS). Adaptive cruise control helps ensure comfort and relaxed driving by letting the driver select the desired speed and the minimum time gap to the vehicle in front of them. When a radar sensor detects a slower vehicle in front of them, Adaptive Cruise Control adapts to that vehicle by applying the brakes as necessary. As the Collision Warning System senses an impending collision, it alerts with a flashing light on the windshield and an audible alarm. Meanwhile Brake Support offers additional assistance by preparing the braking system so that the car can begin stopping faster and avoid a potentially dangerous situation before it happens. Volvo S80 is also available with a new safety innovation called Blind Spot Information System (BLIS, first seen in Volvo S40) which senses when a person enters the drivers blind spot and Active Bi-Xenon Lights (ABL) to illuminate around curves in the dark. Volvo is known for making historic strides in the production of intuitive new safety systems. BLIS system has been recently introduced at Mercedes-Benz's higher specification cars, nearly two years after Volvo.[11] The second generation Volvo S80 is much more luxurious than the previous generation, and it flaunts its "Scandinavian Luxury" design language. The second generation S80 has already won awards in best mid size luxury sedan interior.[12]

[edit] Engines
Year Model Displacement Engine Fuel Power Torque CO2 emissions/km
2006- V8 4414 cc V8 Petrol 232 kW (315 PS; 311 hp) 440 N·m (320 lb·ft)
2006- 3.2 3192 cc I6 Petrol 175 kW (238 PS; 235 hp) 320 N·m (240 lb·ft)
2008- T6 2953 cc I6 Petrol 210 kW (285 PS; 281 hp) 400 N·m (300 lb·ft)
2006-2009 2.5T 2521 cc LPT I5 Petrol 147 kW (200 PS; 197 hp) 300 N·m (220 lb·ft)
2008-2009 2.5FT 2521 cc LPT I5 E85/Petrol FlexiFuel 147 kW (200 PS; 197 hp) 300 N·m (220 lb·ft)
2008-2009 2.0 1999 cc I4 Petrol 107 kW (145 PS; 143 hp) 185 N·m (136 lb·ft)
2008-2009 2.0F 1999 cc I4 E85/Petrol FlexiFuel 107 kW (145 PS; 143 hp) 185 N·m (136 lb·ft)
2009- 2.0 1999 cc I4 Petrol 107 kW (145 PS; 143 hp) 190 N·m (140 lb·ft)
2009- 2.0F 1999 cc I4 E85/Petrol FlexiFuel 107 kW (145 PS; 143 hp) 190 N·m (140 lb·ft)
2009- D5 2400 cc twin-turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 151 kW (205 PS; 202 hp) 420 N·m (310 lb·ft)
2009- 2.4D 2400 cc turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 129 kW (175 PS; 173 hp) 420 N·m (310 lb·ft)
2006-2009 D5 2400 cc turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 136 kW (185 PS; 182 hp) 400 N·m (300 lb·ft)
2006-2009 2.4D 2400 cc turbocharged common rail I5 Diesel 120 kW (163 PS; 161 hp) 340 N·m (250 lb·ft)
2008- 2.0D 1997 cc turbocharged common rail I4 Diesel 100 kW (136 PS; 134 hp) 320 N·m (240 lb·ft)
2009- 1.6D DRIVe 1560 cc turbocharged common rail I4 Diesel 80 kW (109 PS; 107 hp) 240 N·m (180 lb·ft) 129g
2009- 2.5T 2521 cc LPT I5 Petrol 170 kW (231 PS; 228 hp) 340 N·m (250 lb·ft)
2009- 2.5FT 2521 cc LPT I5 E85/Petrol FlexiFuel 170 kW (231 PS; 228 hp) 340 N·m (250 lb·ft)

[edit] S80L
A long wheelbase version manufactured in China, called the Volvo S80L, was launched locally in November 2008. It is 140 mm (5.5 in) longer, to increase rear passenger legroom.[13]

[edit] 2010 update
New features include a choice of 5-cylinder 2.4L D5 twin turbo diesel, 2.4L diesel, or 1.6L diesel engine. Also the 2.5T and 2.5FT were modified to produce more power and have a lower fuel consumption. The car's exterior was modified to give the S80 a lower, longer and wider stance. More chrome trim were added to the front, the rear end the doors to look like the S80 Executive. The 2010 Volvo S80 facelift also comes with a choice between a comfort-enhancing standard chassis or a sport one that offers better handling dynamics. The 2010 S80 will be available with a S80 R-design interior package to give the inside a sportier look. The interior package contains a new sports steering wheel, sports pedals, Dynamic leather seats, sports gearshift knob and a new combi instrument with blue background.

The car was unveiled in 2009 Geneva Motor Show.[14]

[edit] See also
Volvo ECC
[edit] References
^ IIHS S80 Report
^ a b Volvo 2003 S80 Specification
^ Volvo Owners Club UK S80 production data
^ a b c Volvo Owners Club UK Summary of S80 Launch Press Release
^ Austin Rover.co.uk E series engines
^ Volvo Owners Club UK M65 Gearbox Press Release
^ Volvo Owners Club UK S80 Environment Press Release
^ Volvo Early S80 Press Release
^ Volvo S80 1999 Specifications
^ Wim Oude Weernink and Bradford Wernle. "Building Blocks: Ford learns a lesson from Lego". AutoWeek. http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060330/FREE/60327009/1024/LATESTNEWS. Retrieved March 30 2006.
^ Tech Watch: Mercedes-Benz Ups the Safety Ante With New Blind-Spot Assist
^ Volvo S80 (06-) 3.2 SE Sport 4dr Saloon - Autocar.co.uk
^ Volvo S80L long wheelbase launched in China
^ Geneva Preview: Volvo readies updated S80 for Swiss debut
[edit] External links
Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Volvo S80
Volvo S80 - Official International Volvo S80 Site
Nilsson Special Vehicles - Special vehicles such as limousines based on the Volvo S80 chassis

THIS IS FOR THE NEW V70 AND NEW S80 I.E 2ND GEN S80 AND 3RD GEN V70

WTF have I started ? :eek:

[T5ER]

oh look the xc90 has the same platform as the 1ST GEN S80 ????? strange

The Volvo XC90 is a mid-size luxury crossover SUV produced by Volvo Cars since it was unveiled at the Detroit Motor Show 2002. It is based on the P2 platform, shared with the first generation Volvo S80 and other large Volvo cars. As Volvo's top-selling vehicle in the United States, the XC90 is also Volvo's best selling model worldwide with 85,994 cars sold in 2005.

At its launch as a 2003 model, it was presented with a choice of two models, the 2.5T and the T6. The 2.5T was the entry level version and offered a 2.5L 20 valve turbocharged inline 5 engine putting out 210 hp (160 kW; 210 PS) and 236 ft·lbf (320 N·m) mated to an Aisin co-developed AW55-50/51 5 speed automatic. The T6 offered a 2.9L 24 valve twin turbocharged inline 6 with 272 hp (203 kW; 276 PS) and 280 ft·lbf (380 N·m) mated to a GM-sourced, Volvo modified 4T65EV/GT 4 speed automatic. While the 2.5T came standard with front wheel drive, a Haldex Traction all wheel drive system was optional. The T6 was offered only with the AWD system.

A new Ford/Yamaha V8 engine was added in 2005. This 4.4 L Volvo V8 engine produces 311 hp (232 kW; 315 PS) and 325 ft·lbf (441 N·m) of torque. The XC90 V8 will be priced at just over US$45,000 and it is expected that more than 15,000 would be sold per year.

The XC90 won the North American Car of the Year award and Motor Trend magazine's Sport/Utility of the Year for 2003.

The XC90 was updated for 2007 with a restyled front and rear and a revised interior. The 235 hp (175 kW; 238 PS) 3.2 L SI6 straight-6 engine replaced the 208 hp (155 kW; 211 PS) B524T2 straight-5 in the base model for the US market. The 2007 XC90 debuted in April 2006 at the New York Auto Show.

The XC90 is produced at Volvo's Torslanda Plant (Torslandaverken) in Sweden.

Contents [hide]
1 Safety
2 Reliability
3 The 2007 recall
4 Second generation
5 References
6 External links


[edit] Safety

2004-2006 Volvo XC90 photographed in USA.The XC90 is also known for the world's best performance in the SUV roll over test in 1997- 2009 (now), as many other premium brands neglect to test this feature on their models.[citation needed] The Volvo XC90 front end is specifically designed to absorb frontal impacts and also deflect any pedestrians up on to the hood of the vehicle rather than underneath the bonnet. Volvo has patented the unique frontal structure that has renowned crumple zones, and a pre-determined positions for the engine and other ancillaries during a frontal impact.[citation needed]

The XC90's roof is reinforced with ultra high strength steel to help prevent a collapse in the passenger cavity in the event of a roll over. This Volvo system is called ROPS, and is closely associated with the RSC, DSTC, and SIPS systems of Volvo to prevent and ultimately minimize effects of a pending accident.

This Volvo SUV has been designed on the rear end to absorb impact energy, but the occupants are also protected by one of the world's most advanced whiplash protection systems. This Volvo WHIPS system cradles the entire body of the occupants when jolted in a rear end collision.

The XC90 has scored the highest rating of "Good" in the IIHS crash test; notably the rear impact, side impact, and roll over for several years since its debut and most recently on.[citation needed] This has earned the XC90 a IIHS Top Safety Pick.

[edit] Reliability
Many owners of the T6 variant have reported very early transmission failures, many before 60,000 miles (97,000 km).[1][2][3] Some owners have reportedly gone through two transmissions in that time.[4] The GM-sourced 4T65EV/GT transmissions usually show symptoms of failure by suddenly slipping while in gear. There has not been a recall for this issue, but the faults are widely known and documented. Various causes have been claimed, ranging from engine coolant entering the transmission fluid to problems arising from Volvo's modification of the original GM valve body[5] unit inside the transmission, but none have been substantiated. Non-GM sourced transmissions have not suffered unusual failings of this type.

[edit] The 2007 recall
At the end of July 2007, Volvo Car Corp. announced the recall of 42,211 2005 year XC90's in order to check their batteries to avoid the risk of an internal short circuit and fire. The vehicles were manufactured in the Swedish Torslandaverken between June 7, 2004 and May 13, 2005.[6] The recall only applies to cars in the U.S. and Canada.[7] There have been no reports of short circuiting in the vehicles.

[edit] Second generation
The updated XC90 that was scheduled for 2010 introduction, has been canceled. Instead, the current model will undergo a facelift that will keep it on the market until 2012.[8] Volvo has stated that the second generation XC90 is not canceled altogether[9], as rumored, but its introduction could be delayed. The next generation was sent back to the engineering board to improve the vehicles weight, handling, and most important of all, its fuel efficiency. Volvo engineers will improve on engine fuel efficiency through the use of hybrid technology and other innovations such as start-stop technology. The 2012 XC90 will borrow heavily from the design of the current XC60. The vehicle will feature a larger third row seat. Also, it can be expected that the vehicle will have an optional panoramic sunroof.

[edit] References
^ "Volvo XC90 T6 Transmission - CarSpace Automotive Forums". Townhall-talk.edmunds.com. http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f18a651/9. Retrieved 2009-07-21.
^ "2003 Volvo XC90 T6 Comments (r69842), Page 4". Carsurvey.org. http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/volvo/xc90/r69842/comments/page-4/. Retrieved 2009-07-21.
^ [1][dead link]
^ "2003 Volvo XC90 T6 Comments (r69842), Page 5". Carsurvey.org. http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/volvo/xc90/r69842/comments/page-5/. Retrieved 2009-07-21.
^ "Common Faults and Diagnosis Volvo And Saab". Swedeserve.com.au. http://www.swedeserve.com.au/fault-finding.htm. Retrieved 2009-07-21.
^ "Volvo recalls SUVs due to fire risk". Bloomberg News / The Arizona Republic. 2007-07-25. http://www.azcentral.com/business/consumer/articles/0725biz-volvorecall25-ON.html. Retrieved 2007-07-27.
^ Volvo to recall 42,000 cars in North America because of short circuit risk - International Herald Tribune
^ SUVs are in their death throes - Dec. 18, 2007
^ New Volvo XC90 will arrive in 2012 - Newemotion 05.29.2009
[edit] External links


so does this mean then that the S80/V70 and xc90 are all the same car then

[cornclose]

Unforgettable, that's what you are
Unforgettable, though near or far
Like a song of love that clings to me
How the thought of you repulses me
Never before has someone been more... erm... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8tRTZIx298)

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Look in a mirror, if you recognize who you see in it, congratulations! You've just qualified!
Well, if I had to look at an idiot, I'd rather it were me than you.
No offence like.

[thebadger]

None taken, I'd rather you were out of sight at all times...

[But is it really a Volvo?]

None taken, I'd rather you were out of sight at all times...
Some say I'm pretty outa sight.
Others say I designed the V70 (from scratch).

All I know is I'm called .... But is it really a Volvo?

[T5ER]

no its a FORD

[thebadger]

Many would say pretty unknowledgeable....

[T5ER]

lol badger, cant believe him tbh

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Many would say pretty unknowledgeable....
Many once claimed that the Earth was flat.
Some still do.

Me ?
I say the V70 is more cake than biscuit.

[But is it really a Volvo?]

lol badger, cant believe him tbh
Come on!
That was just a joke about designing the V70 (from scratch)

[cornclose]

AlanG ?

[T5ER]

Come on!
That was just a joke about designing the V70 (from scratch)

which obviously you have and based it on a S80 because according to you volvo are wrong and you are right so you must have designed the V70 and the S80. end of

[T5ER]

AlanG ?

lol i is confused now

[cornclose]

Well biscuits were mentioned...

[thebadger]

Yeah, he got banned for being such a troll....

[T5ER]

Well biscuits were mentioned...

arghhhhh with you now lol

[thebadger]

That and the shameful insult of the mods & refusing to apologise.

[T5ER]

That and the shameful insult of the mods & refusing to apologise.

naughty naughty boy, not good insulting members let alone mods

[PaulZX]

so anyway, the cheapest option, if you aint gonna get the suspension checked first is the drop links....

but I think the general consensus, is to get her checked out by someone in the know...

[But is it really a Volvo?]

so anyway, the cheapest option, if you aint gonna get the suspension checked first is the drop links.......
Unless the links are knocking, I'd have gone for the wishbones first.

[But is it really a Volvo?]

Yeah, he got banned for being such a troll....
My, but you're an angry badger.

Pram, dummy.

[dave stew]

I'm an admin on another forum and I'd have banned this incredibly confrontational, sensationalist idiot. Any takers or is it the season of good will?

[v70torslanda]

I'm an admin on another forum and I'd have banned this incredibly confrontational, sensationalist idiot. Any takers or is it the season of good will?

I'd second that . . .

[But is it really a Volvo?]

I'm an admin on another forum and I'd have banned this incredibly confrontational
Banned for daring to express an opinion you don't share.

I thought mods were picked for their impartiality, fairness and good judgement, not for their desire to stifle the opinions of those they disagree with ... particularly when people haven't resorted to name-calling.

Which forum is it, if I may ask ?

[Jamest5r]

AlanG ?

Im sure Justin could check that, but for now carry on lads im just getting comfy, cold carling ready, overhaulin on sky....

I love this forum, makes me smile everyday.:hail:

[thebadger]

I'd like to third the motion.

It's nothing to do with opinions shown, it's a lack of respect of the users of this forum & a lack of will on your part to accept the advice of (i'd guess by now) 10 other users who have all agreed on a sensible course of action to investigate the issue based on suggestions of both DIY mechanics & professional mechanics (some trained by Volvo!).

Your lack of understanding that mechanical issues can often be simple things to fix IF you diagnose the issue first, saving you money & the mechanic time, just shows that you either enjoy giving poor advice or have a distinct lack of reasoning.

I feel very sad that a Volvo is suffering at your hands, constantly having new parts put on to different areas in an attempt to repair the most obvious fault in the car.

But luckily you must have to get out of the poor thing once in a while.

I have also added you to my ignore list, as I'm getting tired of this purile drivvle which you continue to spout.

Save us all mods!

[t5 stealth]

well apparently iv started something,
according to a certain member (good use of word)
the basis of this forum is to try & help each other,not fleece them,
if a person is looking for help on here,its usually because they are unsure or dont know,so ask for help,
if i didnt know anything about cars & some (member) told me i should change so many parts & at a huge cost to cure it & then find i still had a problem i dont think id be very happy with that person who pretends to know so much when really knows very little,i remember there being a thread on here a while ago about people making & giving opinions on repairs etc without the real knowledge or having good advice...i think this qualifys....
i dont think your bit of paper really stands up for you,anyone can get a degree etc,you can even do it at home....thats easy....the skill is when you lift the bonnet & get involved with the problem....iv got qualifications as a mechanic,& iv been doing it since i was 14 so i think i know roughly what im talking about,im not gona make someone spend a huge amount without knowing what the problem is,
i know many people with qualifications on paper but they dont know ££££.
so while this has all been going on & harpin on about floor pans on which model poor ole flash b still hasnt got any help...
so id just like to say flash b please take your car to a local garage or someone with some knowledge of this kind of thing/vehicle as most of us here have said,if its a drop link or a lower arm then thats good that its found & your car is restored to a safe condition again,& hopefully at a reasonable cost.i feel this thread is wasted & pointless now as it seems its just up for a heckling......another sad day on vpcuk

[T5ER]

well said t5 stealth i am with you 100% on this

[Justin]

Tis the season of good will lads, hence he is still here.

Lmao at this thread, how not to introduce yourself.

[But is it really a Volvo?]

I'd like to third the motion.
Perhaps there's a good reason you're not a mod in that case.


It's nothing to do with opinions shown, it's a lack of respect of the users of this forum & a lack of will on your part to accept the advice
I refuse to recant, not least because I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition (nobody does, after all).


of (i'd guess by now) 10 other users who have all agreed on a sensible course of action to investigate the issue based on suggestions of both DIY mechanics & professional mechanics (some trained by Volvo!).
All of whom are fully entitled to their personal opinions.


Your lack of understanding that mechanical issues can often be simple things to fix IF you diagnose the issue first, saving you money & the mechanic time, just shows that you either enjoy giving poor advice or have a distinct lack of reasoning.
I suggested he start with the most likely suspects, if he's thinking of ordering parts ahead of inspecting.
Guess that makes me pretty evil by any measure.


I feel very sad that a Volvo is suffering at your hands,
That's very touching, but it gets only what it needs, thanks all the same.


constantly having new parts put on to different areas in an attempt to repair the most obvious fault in the car.

But luckily you must have to get out of the poor thing once in a while.
Quite frequently, as it goes.


I have also added you to my ignore list, as I'm getting tired of this purile drivvle which you continue to spout. I refer you to my earlier quote : 'Pram, dummy'.


Save us all mods!
Your intolerance, distortion and hostility don't really conjure up an image of vulnerability.

But Merry Christmas anyway.

PS : - You never said whether you were The Badger off the telly.

[v70torslanda]

I don't often get personal. This is, after all, a cyberspace forum where people just get together and chat and work out their solutions. I am, however, willing to make an exception in this case.

Mr 'Ican'tbelieveit'snotaVolvo' has singularly rejected, misconstrued and willfully misunderstood anything that has been offered to him by anyone on this forum.
That makes him, in my book, a nasty little troll. I think I said earlier 'F O A D' or something along those lines.

I am now going to ask the good people of this forum to use their imagination for a moment. Just imagine that we could physically show Mr 'Ican'tbelieveit'snotaVolvo' that he is wrong in his assertions but we need a way to get his undivided attention. I would suggest gripping his upper lip with both hands and NOT LETTING GO. Yes, I think Mr 'Ican'tbelieveit'snotaVolvo' would have to sit up and take notice pretty sharpish. After this 'education session' we should then introduce him to my friend, Mr Shovel . . .

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your climate control system (that's assuming the piece of crap you have spent such humungous ampounts of money on isn't an ex-plod and is in fact fitted with some standard spec Volvo equipment . . . )

Oh! BTW, I forgot. A pox on your first born, you ugly wart on a salamander's tongue!

[Redbrick]

Hate to feed the Troll but I've heard the V70 is an S80 estate as well... just odd it has the S60 interior and dash. S60 doesn't feel as wide but it must be. Leg room in the back of an S60 is less than a V70. Maybe its the £££££££ love child of an S60/S80? But then the dates don't match up...

Is there not more in life to get upset about?

[T5ER]

I don't often get personal. This is, after all, a cyberspace forum where people just get together and chat and work out their solutions. I am, however, willing to make an exception in this case.

Mr 'Ican'tbelieveit'snotaVolvo' has singularly rejected, misconstrued and willfully misunderstood anything that has been offered to him by anyone on this forum.
That makes him, in my book, a nasty little troll. I think I said earlier 'F O A D' or something along those lines.

I am now going to ask the good people of this forum to use their imagination for a moment. Just imagine that we could physically show Mr 'Ican'tbelieveit'snotaVolvo' that he is wrong in his assertions but we need a way to get his undivided attention. I would suggest gripping his upper lip with both hands and NOT LETTING GO. Yes, I think Mr 'Ican'tbelieveit'snotaVolvo' would have to sit up and take notice pretty sharpish. After this 'education session' we should then introduce him to my friend, Mr Shovel . . .

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your climate control system (that's assuming the piece of crap you have spent such humungous ampounts of money on isn't an ex-plod and is in fact fitted with some standard spec Volvo equipment . . . )

Oh! BTW, I forgot. A pox on your first born, you ugly wart on a salamander's tongue!

:jaw: well put sir, bit more diplomatic than me lol

[But is it really a Volvo?]

I don't often get personal. This is, after all, a cyberspace forum where people just get together and chat and work out their solutions. I am, however, willing to make an exception in this case.

Mr 'Ican'tbelieveit'snotaVolvo' has singularly rejected, misconstrued and willfully misunderstood anything that has been offered to him by anyone on this forum.
That makes him, in my book, a nasty little troll. I think I said earlier 'F O A D' or something along those lines.

I am now going to ask the good people of this forum to use their imagination for a moment. Just imagine that we could physically show Mr 'Ican'tbelieveit'snotaVolvo' that he is wrong in his assertions but we need a way to get his undivided attention. I would suggest gripping his upper lip with both hands and NOT LETTING GO. Yes, I think Mr 'Ican'tbelieveit'snotaVolvo' would have to sit up and take notice pretty sharpish. After this 'education session' we should then introduce him to my friend, Mr Shovel . . .

May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your climate control system (that's assuming the piece of crap you have spent such humungous ampounts of money on isn't an ex-plod and is in fact fitted with some standard spec Volvo equipment . . . )

Oh! BTW, I forgot. A pox on your first born, you ugly wart on a salamander's tongue!

You seem upset.

[v70torslanda]

La la-la la-laaa! I'm not listening :)

[PaulZX]

If I eat much more pocorn, I'm gonna go corn crazy......

[t5 stealth]

If I eat much more pocorn, I'm gonna go corn crazy......

nothin worse than a corn crazy man lol

[v70torslanda]

Corn? That's not troll food, is it?

[PaulZX]

nothin worse than a corn crazy man lol

actually I'm telling fibs, I've got one jam n custard jammy dodger left.... :(

then it's a full pack of original jammies :wiggle:

[t5 stealth]

Corn? That's not troll food, is it?

i thought it was road runners :)

[PaulZX]

cue the forums favorite topic.... bickies... :D

[t5 stealth]

cue the forums favorite topic.... bickies... :D

lol shut up :)

[kyebosh]

corn? That's not troll food, is it?

7742

[PaulZX]

It's ok guys, I've found the solution...

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t164/zaxtax/258Troll_spray.jpg

[t5 stealth]

It's ok guys, I've found the solution...

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t164/zaxtax/258Troll_spray.jpg

pmsl

[v70torslanda]

I think I WD like about 40 cans of that, please! ;)

[v70torslanda]

Oh. Has he finally gone?

[PaulZX]

Oh. Has he finally gone?

troll spray works buddy, you saw it here first... ;)

[T5ER]

lol lads dont hold ya breath, ya should allways check the bottom of the screen at active users lol

[But is it really a Volvo?]

oh. Has he finally gone?
Nope.
And won't be 'til I've gotten my apology.
:D

[T5ER]

hell will freeze over first before you get a apology me thinks from anybody sorry to say

[v70torslanda]

Nope.
And won't be 'til I've gotten my apology.
:D

You'll get a blowjob off the Pope first!

FOXTROT

ROMEO

OSCAR

[But is it really a Volvo?]

hell will freeze over first before you get a apology me thinks from anybody sorry to say
Well it snowed here today, so I'm keeping my options open.

[S60-MBS]

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l204/s60mbs/i_accept_your_apology_sticker-p2174.jpg

[But is it really a Volvo?]

You'll get a blowjob off the Pope first!

FOXTROT

ROMEO

OSCAR
I'm sensing a little hostility from you, S80EstateTorslanda.

[T5ER]

tbh i think you may have just crossed the line now, oh i would not worry about the snow not now anyway

[v70torslanda]

Oh! You have NO idea! Trust me.

[T5ER]

i suppose its one way to get his post count up, just wondering what the quickest somebody has been banned lol

[But is it really a Volvo?]

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l204/s60mbs/i_accept_your_apology_sticker-p2174.jpg
That would be a neat trick.

I'm prepared to call a truce in exchange for a admission of incorrectitude plus grovelling apology.

Don't say I don't look after you. ;)

[T5ER]

i cant be bothered with this ££££ now its stupid, way off topic and just causing trouble, more intrested in ghostrider and watching my car sell on ebay

[T5ER]

how to p1ss people of and not influence them, must be his number 1 subject

[But is it really a Volvo?]

i suppose its one way to get his post count up, just wondering what the quickest somebody has been banned lol
You're not particularly sporting, are you ?

[T5ER]

nope and never have been, only to people who know me.

[But is it really a Volvo?]

nope and never have been, only to people who know me.
Well, you're pretty honest I guess.

[T5ER]

that i am, tbh this is now not worth a w4nk anymore

[PaulZX]

this is where the tube of thread lock should come out....

[But is it really a Volvo?]

this is where the tube of thread lock should come out....
Seconded.

I think any hope of the OP getting any more out of it is pretty much finished.

Finito la musica.

[MrMopp]

Wow I can't believe I've just wasted 15 minutes of life reading that ****e lol, is it really a volvo is a pure genius :mischievo

[T5ER]

and is now well off topic so the poor guy who originally posted wont have a bloody clue now

[kyebosh]

Nope.
And won't be 'til I've gotten my apology.
:D

"OK MISTER, how many times do I have to flush before you go away?"

[Flash B]

This is all getting very interesting...keep going chaps!!

Saucers of milk may be required soon.

[t5 stealth]

wot happened.....wot hav i missed ?

[Al115]

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7755&stc=1&d=1261164797

[t5 stealth]

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7755&stc=1&d=1261164797

so i see............but he seemed such a nice guy....wot happened lol

[nobananas]

This is all getting very interesting...keep going chaps!!

Saucers of milk may be required soon.

Bloody hell Flash B are you still here ?!. I would have thought you would have legged it by now !. Apologies for the direction your thread has taken. it's not usually like this.

[t5 stealth]

[QUOTE=
Originally Posted by Flash B
This is all getting very interesting...keep going chaps!!

Saucers of milk may be required soon.

all this was for you flash b..........do you see how good we are,
fighting for the little guy :)

[Justin]

http://www.vpcuk.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7755&stc=1&d=1261164797

lmfao :)

[T5ER]

i take it he was banned for his general ignorance and behaviour then

[cameron]

Or was it the fact that he was just a total Prrick :D

15 minutes of my life wasted by reading a load of drivel all caused by one persons stupidity, and the fact that he was proven to be wrong and still argued made him look even worse :doh:

Thought i was on the " Other " site for a minute when the O RLY pictures started, some quality ones by Irf as usual.

[T5ER]

Or was it the fact that he was just a total Prrick :D

15 minutes of my life wasted by reading a load of drivel all caused by one persons stupidity, and the fact that he was proven to be wrong and still argued made him look even worse :doh:

Thought i was on the " Other " site for a minute when the O RLY pictures started, some quality ones by Irf as usual.

well there is that aswell lol

[cornclose]

Cool, this thread is still going! I must say the ban couldn't have happened to a nicer chap lol.

[Flash B]

I've just finished reading this whole thread...I'm still waiting for a solution (joke!!!)
Thanks for the smiles.

[LeeT5]

I've just finished reading this whole thread...I'm still waiting for a solution (joke!!!)
Thanks for the smiles.

So what was the fault then?

[crespo]

So what was the fault then?


He never did find out as this thread went on the main tangent.:doh:

[Harvey]

Hi all, New member to this Volvo lark. Just upgraded from a tiny Fiat Panda 100 hp to a beautiful V70 (170) and can't stop smiling. Easily the best car I've owned and is a dream to drive, however, I've noticed that whilst driving at a normal pace around the windy roads of Mid Wales, the steering seems to go very light and 'jerky' on corners. This seems to be an intermitent problem and makes me feel a bit worried. I've checked everything obvious and all seems tight. Anyone got any ideas???? Ive noticed the power steering fluid reservoir is full but has clearly had a previous leak from the pipes, which now seems clear.
I need to sort this before I can do anything else.

Found this old thread wasted 1/2 hour reading it got a bit heated near the end,I think it's the power steering pump ,sound like the pressure blow off valve inside pump body.
Did anyone get to hear what was wrong?.