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cornclose
Thursday 2nd July 2009, 15:42
...does anyone know how they attach to the roof ? There seem to be loads of them available, but none tell you how they're mounted. Some special fixings for the head-lining perhaps ?

PaulZX
Thursday 2nd July 2009, 15:44
pink grip fill should do it lol

cornclose
Thursday 2nd July 2009, 15:49
you've lost me there....

p fandango
Thursday 2nd July 2009, 16:50
you can either pull the roof lining down & downwards so the screws are facing downwards, or you can screw upwards if you know there is a reinforcement the other side of the lining

cornclose
Thursday 2nd July 2009, 16:56
Cheers. So they're typically screw mounted then ? No special fittings ?

p fandango
Thursday 2nd July 2009, 16:57
not that i know of mate

cornclose
Friday 3rd July 2009, 07:10
Right'O. I'm wondering what's behind the roof lining for screws to screw into though....

Thanks

Enigma666
Friday 3rd July 2009, 08:43
A lot of these screens come with a metal plate that you put into the head lining, then screw into that. Best talk to a specialist about how they do it perhaps?

Linky1 (www.caraudiodirect.com)

or

Linky2 (www.caraudiocentre.com)

Might be able to offer advice :D

cornclose
Friday 3rd July 2009, 12:13
Cheers mate!

p fandango
Friday 3rd July 2009, 14:14
Right'O. I'm wondering what's behind the roof lining for screws to screw into though....

Thanks
there are stengthening beams running across the inside of the roof anyway mate, just don't use screws too long or you'll go thru the roof skin lol

cornclose
Friday 3rd July 2009, 15:28
Had a feel around in the head lining this lunchtime - can't feel any beams running across the roof though...

Will try again later, this time a more thorough inspection.

Baj
Friday 3rd July 2009, 15:31
Do note that if you fit one in the middle you cant see out the rear view when it is down. Gets annoying quickly.

cornclose
Friday 3rd July 2009, 16:46
Thanks Baj, thought of that, but as I'd most likely be towing the caravan it wouldn't matter...

laughjimbo
Thursday 16th July 2009, 16:01
Sometimes they bond a piece of wood to the roof metal and then screw to that. I have had it done on a couple cars in the past, better than just screwing to the headlining from otherside as some cars have a vert flisy roof lining and you can just pull the screen and it damages the roof lining. Best talk to a specialist as they can normally fit a screen in a couple of hours!!

Tomcat
Thursday 16th July 2009, 16:31
Would you not be better putting them in the rear of the headrests?.

cornclose
Friday 17th July 2009, 08:53
I did consider a headrest mounted system. Downsides are mainly cost. I would want the proper Volvo headrests, and they aren't cheap. You can get replacement headrests of course, but they look crap/cheap tac.

Tomcat
Friday 17th July 2009, 09:16
I'm sure any decent auto retrimmer would be able to fit some LCD's into your headrests.

cornclose
Friday 17th July 2009, 09:52
Yeah - had not really considered that option. I'll investigate a bit. Cheers.

thebadger
Tuesday 21st July 2009, 08:29
On my P2, there's a cover just about level with my headrest which I'm told is a fitting from the sunroof option?

I'll try & get some pics, but it pops off & there's a beam! I can do a measure up for you including the depth (so you have no screws popping out the roof!) to get you the best fitting.

Would that help much Chris?

cornclose
Tuesday 21st July 2009, 09:41
I've had a further look at this since my original post, and I can see a beam just in front of the alarm sensor in the middle of the roof when I take out the sensor and have a close look/feel inside the roof lining. It's probably the same beam you are referring to badger.

There doesn't seem to be another beam aft of the alarm sensor for a good foot or more. So, the front one will be too far foward and the rear one too far back!

It's obviously not an option to fit a screen over the alarm sensor!

However, I do have another idea which requires further investigation, I'll report on whether it will be feasible later...

thebadger
Tuesday 21st July 2009, 10:24
Do a "pimp my ride" number & fit one of thoes holographic glass screens & a projector!

Should sit nicley with the Dolby system!

cornclose
Tuesday 21st July 2009, 17:10
But this is for rear seat passengers! (kids). If I did that, I'd be torn between sitting in the back watching movies and sitting in the front driving!

I have a cunning plan... More later...

thebadger
Wednesday 22nd July 2009, 00:36
I have a double din pioneer HU with DVD (and all the rest) so a 7" screen in the dash.

Hoping to fit a pop upin the dash speaker & do headrest ones at some point!

Baj
Wednesday 22nd July 2009, 14:00
For headrests you can get something like this: http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/643
(you would need to get one that matches the monitor).
You cut a hole in the headrest, gouge out some stuffing and fit it in. You may want to get a spare headrest to try it out on.
It isn't easy to get a perfect job but it is not rocket science.

Have a look at linitx.com too as they are very good.

gazbak1
Wednesday 22nd July 2009, 14:07
working on volvos for 4 years. the problem retrofitting screens in standard headrest is the fact the the 2 metal bars go right through the head rest so fitting a screen is near on impossible. thats why volvo sold there own kits with special headrests.

hth

gazbak1

thebadger
Wednesday 22nd July 2009, 14:41
Hmm, yeah I'd heard that, but I have seen them done! Fraz had them in his old S70.

I think the wiring would be the pain...

cornclose
Friday 28th August 2009, 22:07
But this is for rear seat passengers! (kids). If I did that, I'd be torn between sitting in the back watching movies and sitting in the front driving!

I have a cunning plan... More later...

Sorted. I fabricated a bracket to hold the screen unit that spans the roof lining and is mounted between the front bolts of the rear grab handles. Difficult to explain, but it looks neat, if a little industrial.

The best thing is that it is completely passive. The whole installation can be removed with no trace that anything was ever there. Power and stuff runs via a single multicore cable from the rear of the car, and the cable is routed around the door rubbers etc and across to the screen, all hidden by the cars trim and the bracket itself.

Audio goes via an inbuilt FM transmitter to the cars stereo, which is surprisingly good and far more than adequate for kids movies etc.

All in all, I'm very pleased with the results.

marcemerson
Saturday 29th August 2009, 12:19
hi all i had it done in my mitsubishi delica piece of wood nomore nails and bingo a fitting you can screw too but sold all that now have the v70 t5 rica tuned by russell custom exhaust done by janspeed strut brace 17inch wheels and just fitted my v70r bumper and waiting on splitter from tomcat shes looking good pics to come

nosuchuser
Wednesday 9th September 2009, 19:55
Sorted. I fabricated a bracket to hold the screen unit that spans the roof lining and is mounted between the front bolts of the rear grab handles. Difficult to explain, but it looks neat, if a little industrial.

The best thing is that it is completely passive. The whole installation can be removed with no trace that anything was ever there. Power and stuff runs via a single multicore cable from the rear of the car, and the cable is routed around the door rubbers etc and across to the screen, all hidden by the cars trim and the bracket itself.

Audio goes via an inbuilt FM transmitter to the cars stereo, which is surprisingly good and far more than adequate for kids movies etc.

All in all, I'm very pleased with the results.

Lets see some pics please, sounds just like the kind of thing I'd like to do.

Cheers

cornclose
Wednesday 9th September 2009, 21:36
No problem. Will take some and post them next time I have time when it's light outside.

abdul
Wednesday 6th January 2010, 18:32
any pics

cornclose
Wednesday 6th January 2010, 19:52
any pics

Will make a mental note to take some soon.

LeeT5
Friday 8th January 2010, 02:35
hi all i had it done in my mitsubishi delica piece of wood nomore nails and bingo a fitting you can screw too but sold all that now have the v70 t5 rica tuned by russell custom exhaust done by janspeed strut brace 17inch wheels and just fitted my v70r bumper and waiting on splitter from tomcat shes looking good pics to come

....:eek: (need to catch my breath!!!)

Please remember your full stops:)

cornclose
Friday 8th January 2010, 13:49
any pics

Here are a few;

http://www.circle-software.co.uk/temp/volvo/IMG_0570.jpg

http://www.circle-software.co.uk/temp/volvo/IMG_0571.jpg

richiemat
Friday 8th January 2010, 13:56
*Thanks*

How are you going to trim the uni strut Chris?

Baj
Friday 8th January 2010, 13:59
The one I had in the V70 was mounted without the bar. Probably some MDF bonded to the roof under the headlining.

Be warned - a screen in this position will block the rear view which can be annoying.

cornclose
Friday 8th January 2010, 14:32
Be warned - a screen in this position will block the rear view which can be annoying.

Actually it doesn't on the V70. It's in the higher part of the roof which would ordinarily be occupied by a sunroof mechanism (mine has no sunroof) so even when it's lowered, I still have a full clear view of through the rear window.

It's only an 8" screen, and it probably looks bigger than it actually is.

Things still to do (for my own personal perfection) are to remake the bracket so that it fits much more closely to the inner profile of the roof lining, and then to paint it to more closely match the colour. But even as it is it's been worth it's weight in gold. The extra rear lights are useful for kiddie loading/unloading too.

[Edit] And of course after undoing two bolts and disconnecting one multicore cable (with four connected wires in the boot) it can be removed, with no trace.

thebadger
Friday 8th January 2010, 14:46
Look on Ebay for velour in beige, should be cheap & if you use spray mount & wrap the bar hiding the seem on top it should look absolutely mint!

I might have tried to mount the screen into the bar (cross section the bar keeping the top panel) to sink it flat to the roof.

cornclose
Friday 8th January 2010, 15:02
Look on Ebay for velour in beige, should be cheap & if you use spray mount & wrap the bar hiding the seem on top it should look absolutely mint!

I might have tried to mount the screen into the bar (cross section the bar keeping the top panel) to sink it flat to the roof.

Yeah, I considered that and tried it, but with this screen unit it would have meant the bracket would be too far down from the roof, unless the profile of the bracket matched the roof lining perfectly. It also would not have been rigid enough to hold the screen unit securely. In addition, that location on the roof lining isn't flat, so even if it was closer to the roof the base of the unit would required some trimming to make it sit flush. As it is, I've use a very small amount of matching foam packing to close the small gaps either side.

The current bracket was made by hand and eye - i.e. no proper measuring up as such, just place the metal in the roof, trim/bend/cut, and repeat until it was close enough for a prototype.

Next time I'll make a good profile out of some stiff cardboard or something and then use that as a template for bracket mk.2.

I will look for some beige velour - that might just be the icing on the cake for bracket mk.2, thanks.

LeeT5
Friday 8th January 2010, 15:55
Look on Ebay for velour in beige, should be cheap & if you use spray mount & wrap the bar hiding the seem on top it should look absolutely mint!

I might have tried to mount the screen into the bar (cross section the bar keeping the top panel) to sink it flat to the roof.

Exactly what i was going to suggest!