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TonyR
Sunday 29th May 2005, 00:36
My life has come to an end :pants: :pants:

During a routine service the garage trashed one of the N/S locking wheel nuts on my T5. They used a compressed air gun......prats:(

What in the name of all that's holy do I now do????

The end is nigh :bog: :bog:

TonyR

BlackV70
Sunday 29th May 2005, 09:14
Had the same thing happen to my old VR6, 16 year old nipper let loose with a nut gun. The garage kept the car three days to adjust the tracking as a result and damaged a wheel drilling out the locking bolt. Left me with one wheel held on by only four bolts instead of five and with three locking bolts without a tool to remove them. Grrrr!

Went to a local tyre specialist for help. He easily removed the remaining locking bolts using a "socket type" tool with a coarse tapered left handed thread inside. After tapping the tool gently onto the locks to grip them he was able to undo them with a breaker bar. The tool gripped tighter as more force was applied.

Told me that dealing awkward wheel bolts and locks was a frequent occurance and that rounded or rusted normal bolts/ nuts can be shifted with same tools (he had a set of five different sizes).

Guess you could try and buy these tools and have a go yourself or try a few tyre specialists to see if they are able to offer the same service. I was also told that an alternative method (not sure if this is possible on a volvo) was to remove the entire hub with the wheel still fitted and drill the broken bolt out from the back elimitating the risk of wheel damage.

Chris.

After_Shock
Sunday 29th May 2005, 09:37
Two ways of doing it, as mentioned above their are locking nut removal tools however alot of places wont do it as their a bit cagey about using them unless they know you, plus with the likes of good locking nuts like Mcguards they dont work.

My locking nut wore right down when had the C70 which left 2 locking nuts in wheels that needed to be taken off, the locking nut removal tools didnt work which left one thing to try, weld a nut onto the end of the bolt that was stuck in and unscrew it that way, worked a treat.

flamingbladerider
Sunday 29th May 2005, 13:32
I suggest doing nothing and letting the garage do what they have to do to make good. At the end of the day its their fault why should you have to anything?

After_Shock
Sunday 29th May 2005, 13:57
If the garage is going to do something thats likely to damage the wheel I would rather get it done myself and send them the bill, also if they mess around its not practical to drive around for weeks on end with a wheel thats not possible to be removed!

flamingbladerider
Sunday 29th May 2005, 22:00
If the garage is that bad, why use them in the first place

JUDGENINJA
Monday 30th May 2005, 00:13
Cheaper option if you damage your locking wheel nut tool and you don't trust a garage to remove the nut for you.

Tools Required :
Suitable socket
Extension Bar
Big Hammer
Ratchet/breaker bar

Get hold of a socket that could be used to create an interference fit over the locking wheel nut....
offer the socket up to the locking wheel nut using a knackered extension bar (or one you don't mind damaging) and heavy hammer press the socket over the locking wheel nut and with a few accurate hits the socket should be firmly attached...attach your ratchet and your away and off the nut will come....

The locking wheel nut will be firmly attached to the socket and the only way to remove would be to put the socket in a vice and drive the nut out with a punch or other... through the little hole in the socket...

N.B. - I did destroy one socket in the removal of three wheel nuts so don't use your best socket set in the process but hopefully you won't cause any damage to the wheel your trying to remove....unless that is you miss the socket

After_Shock
Monday 30th May 2005, 00:33
flamingbladerider you dont know what a garage is like till you use them for the first time.

flamingbladerider
Monday 30th May 2005, 12:31
Then you should be using a recommended garage, not an uknown. We all make mistakes and if a garage is willing and able to rectify their mistake then let them with no cost incurred by yourself

After_Shock
Monday 30th May 2005, 12:37
Garages can make mistakes so even the most highly recommended ones can do a bad job occasionally.

If they offer to fix it and they have already screwed something up walk away as they will probably do it again.

flamingbladerider
Wednesday 1st June 2005, 22:49
Then what chance has the average joe of repairing the fault?

After_Shock
Wednesday 1st June 2005, 22:51
The removal kits are available from Halfords, if they dont work then try a different garage to sort it!

MattB
Friday 8th July 2005, 11:19
Decided to fit my new alloys today - only my offside rear locking bolt is sh***ed!! :pants:

Just waiting for breakdown to attend to see if they can help.... :cry:

MattB
Friday 8th July 2005, 13:27
Breakdown guy tried, to no avail. So dropped into my local motorsport centre, who were able to drill the bolt out :) supplied me with a new set of McGuard Bolts and also fitted my new alloys, which look great :B_thumb:

t5owner
Friday 8th July 2005, 13:28
I have the same problem on my S70 alloys except all four loking nuts are siezed up had a go my self and they wouldn`t budge so car is now booked into david pengally`s to be sorted he told me they are a real pain in the ass to remove and may take a couple of hours

Cheers

stuart

The Flying Banana
Friday 8th July 2005, 14:43
Drill it and reverse tap it and it should come out....the Judges method of a slightly smaller socket wedged on is good and if you can get one there is a socket that goes up to 19mm called a GatorGrip...it has stainless stee pins inside that move over the object and grip what ever is there....from 8 mm right up to 19 mm..used for rounded bolts......if your nut has a pattern on the face or side the pins will locate and remove...handy for loads of other stuff too!!!

t5owner
Friday 8th July 2005, 16:01
Had another crack with a 19mm socket well wedged on and a large breaker bar gave it a little tug and heard a loud crack (f**k must have broke something) but no it was just the bolt releasing so now i know it works i`ll have to get some replacement locking wheel nuts any idea what size the threads and length of shaft they need to be so i dont bugger up the internal threads when i put new ones on :smile:

Cheers

TangoDeltaSierra3
Friday 8th July 2005, 16:05
Had another crack with a 19mm socket well wedged on and a large breaker bar gave it a little tug and heard a loud crack (f**k must have broke something) but no it was just the bolt releasing so now i know it works i`ll have to get some replacement locking wheel nuts any idea what size the threads and length of shaft they need to be so i dont bugger up the internal threads when i put new ones on :smile:

Cheers
The nuts should say car fitment type on them.

MattB
Sunday 10th July 2005, 22:51
Breakdown guy tried, to no avail. So dropped into my local motorsport centre, who were able to drill the bolt out :) supplied me with a new set of McGuard Bolts and also fitted my new alloys, which look great :B_thumb:

Incidently, while I was in the motorsport centre (Mike Stokes, Moordown), there was a V70R having a stainless steel / custom exhaust fitted. Couldn't see the car though as customers aren't permitted in the workshop :frown: - otherwise I would have left one of the forum flyers. Could already be a member? Was it anyone on here?????