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p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 16:08
been & picked up the ST gearbox today, & found this on it :biggrin:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1990/picture004azc.jpg
all those Crocus owners who deny Volvo had anything to do with the ST & say its all F*rds work must love seeing that lol

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7105/picture003tad.jpg

cameron
Monday 8th June 2009, 16:13
LOL @ Ford :D

p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 16:35
LOL @ Ford :D
i'm not a F*rd man i'm afraid, we have had some nice ones in the family tho but wouldn't have one myself

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4244/archive6y.jpg
my bro's old company van, running a modified RS2000 engine & running gear

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8033/cortina5.jpg
despite the colours was a genuine Lotus Cortina, it was an ex-Broadspeed rally/demo car

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/2586/escort2.jpg
may not look much (was brought for £50) but ended up running 250bhp on a NA engine lol

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6980/sierra2.jpg
the remains of a mates Cossie, ouch

Dangerous Dave
Monday 8th June 2009, 16:40
Lol, its even got the same O/S bearing mounting

cameron
Monday 8th June 2009, 16:49
I loved F...Fo.....For ah crap just say it Lee ( FORD :mad: ) when i was younger.

I had a Sapphire 2wd Cossie with 500bhp or there abouts ( Reg E424 TSD ), till i went on holiday and come back to be told it was hiab'd onto the back of a flat bed truck :mad111:

p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 16:58
I had a Sapphire 2wd Cossie with 500bhp or there abouts ( Reg E424 TSD ), till i went on holiday and come back to be told it was hiab'd onto the back of a flat bed truck :mad111:
mate had a Bimmer stolen the same way, took him a fortnight to notice it missing lol. Looked thru the CCTV & got the recovery truck drive passed then come back & pick it up on video, never got the car back tho

p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 16:59
Lol, its even got the same O/S bearing mounting
thats good to know, hopefully it'll be an easy swop over :smirk:

MrMopp
Monday 8th June 2009, 17:08
That lotus cortina is beautiful :D

cameron
Monday 8th June 2009, 17:17
That lotus cortina is beautiful :D

Agreed to a certain extent, ive always been a big fan of the origonal colours though.............

http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo159/cameron793/lotus.jpg

p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 17:17
That lotus cortina is beautiful :D
its my grandads from 16years ago. He kept it garaged till sundays when it got took round the block, parked up then washed & polished. He eventually sold it & brought a 1.6 Sierra :wtf:

it appeared on ebay last year, we did go & have a look at it with the intention of buying it back for him but the dreaded tin worm had started to take hold. We didn't tell him we'd found his old car because he'd of been devistanted with the condition of it

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7061/cortina1.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2736/cortina2.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1347/cortina7.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6116/cortina8.jpg

cameron
Monday 8th June 2009, 17:20
Looks absolutely mint condition there buddy, a credit to your grandad :B_thumb:

p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 17:24
Looks absolutely mint condition there buddy, a credit to your grandad :B_thumb:
thanks. TBH they are pictures from ebay last year, but in the flesh the paint was very patchy & say had alot of rust underneath. Think it had only done about 50miles in the 15years since my grandad owned it

JelT5
Monday 8th June 2009, 17:55
LOL about the st box mate
:shhh: best not mention it to fr@ud, I mean ford, eh?

The minilites give the escort away...a little bit anyway!

As for the Lotus Cortina- stunning motor!

timbo_1975
Monday 8th June 2009, 20:12
been & picked up the ST gearbox today, & found this on it :biggrin:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1990/picture004azc.jpg
all those Crocus owners who deny Volvo had anything to do with the ST & say its all F*rds work must love seeing that lol

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7105/picture003tad.jpg

HOW I AM LAUGHING!!!!!!!

Actually, if you get the 5 pot block out of an ST, 'Volvo' is embossed in the back of that too, just by the oil cooler.

Someone in sweden is having the last laugh...

p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 20:22
Actually, if you get the 5 pot block out of an ST, 'Volvo' is embossed in the back of that too, just by the oil cooler.
i don't know if we should be so proud of that considering the problems they've had with the engine

p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 20:24
LOL about the st box mate
:shhh: best not mention it to fr@ud, I mean ford, eh?
i've joined the ST owners forum to get some info on the gearbox, i can see another thread being started lol


The minilites give the escort away...a little bit anyway!
the original wheels had rusted away lol


As for the Lotus Cortina- stunning motor!
it was gorgeous, he sold it just before i passed my driving test (wonder if theirs a link lol)

timbo_1975
Monday 8th June 2009, 20:27
i don't know if we should be so proud of that considering the problems they've had with the engine


Thats a good point... :-(

Alan M
Monday 8th June 2009, 20:54
Its the Ford 'in company' parts sharing scheme. You find a lot of Mazda parts on the smaller model Fords. Fords aren't really fords these days but an amalgamation of all the parts from the parts sharing scheme that last longer than their original parts used to.

p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 20:58
Thats a good point... :-(
Built by Volvo, refined (f**ked up) by F*rd :pants:

p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 21:02
Its the Ford 'in company' parts sharing scheme. You find a lot of Mazda parts on the smaller model Fords. Fords aren't really fords these days but an amalgamation of all the parts from the parts sharing scheme that last longer than their original parts used to.
our Volvo handsfree kits also list Aston Martin as the same fitment so i guess it could be worse :crazy:

spesh
Monday 8th June 2009, 22:52
go onto volvospeed, there was a red 850 which done this conversion, dont know where to find it mind.

EddyP82
Monday 8th June 2009, 22:54
Be very interested in how you get on with the box.
How come you've decided to use one, as I was led to beleive the final drive ratios are the same?
Do any of them come with LSDs?

Thanks :)

p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 23:07
go onto volvospeed, there was a red 850 which done this conversion, dont know where to find it mind.
thanks i'll go over & have a look

p fandango
Monday 8th June 2009, 23:14
Be very interested in how you get on with the box.
How come you've decided to use one, as I was led to beleive the final drive ratios are the same?
Do any of them come with LSDs?

Thanks :)
I'm slowly sourcing parts to build an engine to my own spec, & wanting an LSD a spare gearbox was always on the list so i could get everything how i wanted before fitting it all, this one turned up at the right price :biggrin:

you are right about the ratios being the same & no i don't believe any of them do come with an LSD, but you can get Quaife's for them

Alan M
Tuesday 9th June 2009, 07:53
The new six speed RS Focus comes with a quaiffe ATB diff.

p fandango
Tuesday 9th June 2009, 08:25
I was led to beleive the final drive ratios are the same?
i'm just waiting for confirmation from the Crocus boys, but i think my original information could of been wrong. Just found someone saying the ratios are different & will make quite a difference as well

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3556/gearsv.jpg

Dangerous Dave
Tuesday 9th June 2009, 21:19
Interesting is this article

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/2009-Ford-Focus-RS-in-detail.html

p fandango
Tuesday 9th June 2009, 21:29
Interesting is this article

http://www.zercustoms.com/news/2009-Ford-Focus-RS-in-detail.html
it is thanks mate. Totally different ratios again but i found the weight interesting 1467kg, so only just lighter than a 854 T-5

Dangerous Dave
Tuesday 9th June 2009, 21:44
well, thats the new focus rs, dunno how different the ratios are comapred to the ST

p fandango
Wednesday 10th June 2009, 14:30
well, thats the new focus rs, dunno how different the ratios are comapred to the ST
in the article you listed it says the ratios are the same as the ST its based on then lists them, i've now got 3 different lots of ratios (altho the ones listed by F*rd are the same as the original numbers i got, & also the only ones which match the T-5's & won't give any benefit lol)

EddyP82
Wednesday 1st July 2009, 21:11
Started the conversion yet? :p

p fandango
Wednesday 1st July 2009, 21:13
Started the conversion yet? :p
lol no its still sat in my front room, i'm building my own spec engine so probably fit the both at the same time. First mission is to get the car back on the road

Filterlab
Wednesday 1st July 2009, 21:19
Ford have done little of noteworthiness by themselves. Think Cosworth, think Tickford, think Volvo - Ford have never managed to produce a truly high performance engine by themselves. Everyone knows where the expertise behind the latest quick Fords comes from and it grinds on the gears of Ford drivers. :)

The_Rapid_Tank
Wednesday 1st July 2009, 21:54
So how hard is it to fit a st gearbox to a 850 t5 then.

p fandango
Wednesday 1st July 2009, 22:06
So how hard is it to fit a st gearbox to a 850 t5 then.
from what i've read you need the ST flywheel, the rear mount needs moving a bit & the top selector needs modifying. I don't like the dual-mass flywheel tho so going to a local engineering shop to make/modify a 850 flywheel with the correct spline size (& lighten it)

The_Rapid_Tank
Thursday 2nd July 2009, 13:24
from what i've read you need the ST flywheel, the rear mount needs moving a bit & the top selector needs modifying. I don't like the dual-mass flywheel tho so going to a local engineering shop to make/modify a 850 flywheel with the correct spline size (& lighten it)

brill let me know how u get on as i may buy a st gearbox and want a bit more info and maybe a flywheel made :)

BruceT
Thursday 2nd July 2009, 18:28
Duane, thats pics getting nicked and put on facebook to annoy some mates who think volvo = crap and think the new RS and ST is all ford...hahaha, hope you dont mind?

p fandango
Thursday 2nd July 2009, 18:51
Duane, thats pics getting nicked and put on facebook to annoy some mates who think volvo = crap and think the new RS and ST is all ford...hahaha, hope you dont mind?
be my guest mate :pimp2: