New to the volvo world

[DerbyT4]

Hi everyone,
I have never owned/ thought about owning a volvo up until last month. A friend was selling his S40 T4 and as it has a turbo and was only up for £400 i thought why not. Since that day I have been really impressed!. Very comfortable, well equipped and a fair bit of power. A couple of small problems with it but other than that it's spot on. Can i just check that the specs I've got for it are correct and if anyone knows the missing ones:
1998 so it's a B4194T phase 1 with 1855cc, 8.5:1 CR, 14.7 psi boost, Mitsy turbo, 81mm bore, 90mm stroke, VE of 146% approx, aluminium block and head, does anyone know the Con rod length and the combustion volume (the volume of the chamber shape at TDC)?

I was originally planning just to turn the boost up a tiny bit and stick a bigger intercooler in there but I have realised the turbo compression ratio is running the limits of pump fuel. Just having a quick browse over the internet etc it seems very expensive to gain not much more power.

Overall it's a cracking run a bout and has no problem keeping up with my mates modified 2.9 cossie. :)

[Enigma666]

Expensive to get power?
A re-map will take it to 235 -240 and it runs very well then :)
Mine is currently on that but I had bigger plans for it since.....I have now bought a T5 though so I am at a crossroads as to which car to go for the 400bhp mark :(

The cars are great :)
Can't help you much with the information you need but there is a good deal of power left in the standard pump.

Hopefully the mods wont mind too much but go Here (http://www.s40concepts.net/newforum/) for the most information on the S40 range :)

Welcome to the forum :)

[DerbyT4]

Thanks for the info. :)

At first I wasn't planning to do anything to it but I'm tempted to throw a bit of money into it and see what it can do. :)

[Enigma666]

Well, depending on the budget you have it can do lots :)
There are a few people with 400+ bhp on the forums and there are some crazy Swedes with more than that (one guy has 800 ish)
Main thing with these engines is the rods.....over or approaching 300hp and they are best being done however the Mahle pistons are good for 400+ :)
Get the suspension sorted first, there is also and Evo 3 brake upgrade for the fronts which can be had readily and cheaply :)

[DerbyT4]

Just spent the last hour going through that link you showed me, some impressive stuff on there. As for budget I'm a Student doing Motorsport at Uni so money wise it's minimal but time wise i have a couple of years lol. It'd be nice to use the volvo as a course project next year but can't find an affordable catergory that it falls into (Has to be funded by ourselves you see). To be honest I'm pleased with the volvo as it is, but i do have cheap access to rolling roads and a few other tuning company's so I may just do a bit of experimenting with it, mainly for educating myself in the Turbocharged world. Spent most of the time with carbs and N/A revy jap motors.

Having said all that and seeing all the info you've provided I must say i'm really tempted to have a go at the 400+bhp mark :)

[Enigma666]

I have a VEMS standalone ECU in the cupboard which is up for sale (unless I tune the S40 I suppose) which will be an awesome place to start with if you want to self tune or the whole setup can be had for around £600 ish now (due to the poor pound).
400+ is achievable but the turbo choice is essential...too big and the poor thing will never spool in time. The GT3071 or alike seem to be the favourite for that sort of figure though.
The biggest pain in the ass with the Volvos is the lack of 'off the shelf' parts (especially in the UK) so costs are often quite high and then you have to add shipping :(
For 400+ I would budget at least 5k to make it up there to that realm.
I do have a spare T4 engine though for sale (no turbo etc) in fact I have a whole setup which will hit around 380bhp for sale.
The list will soon add up though mate....more power better rods, exhaust, injectors, head-work, manifold upgrade (exhaust) then the tuning. It's a long and expensive road lol
If you went to Marco at MTE for the custom tune too expect to pay in the realm of £500 for that custom tune also.

HTH

[mexybhouy]

Welcome first and foremost to the many many different views of the forum! but me thinks that you have a well and trully big advantage to most folk on here! no disrespect to anyone, but you know Xtly wot you're taking on!!!!!

[DerbyT4]

I was at the autosport show today and spoke to a good number of companies about parts for the T4, I've sourced suppliers for forged H rods/ pistons, camshafts (reground orignals), equal length 4 branch manifold, stand alone fully programmable management system with anti lag option, camber adjustment kits (nothing special though) and a few other bits like ARP bolts etc.

The majority of the stuff has to be made special, some are a lot cheaper in bulk buy but some of the stuff I can get at very little over cost price.

To be honest i don't know where to go with this lol.

I'm half tempted to use a stand alone management system and stick the lump into a 340 or something (I have to be doing something to keep me busy). Just don't really feel like butchering a perfectly nice S40.

Oh well no rush i guess, I'll keep on thinking :)

[Enigma666]

I have a spare T4 engine if you want to play....not to mention a full stand alone ECU up for grabs...hell I have a GT2871 and manifold for sale too...add it all together with larger injectors etc and you have a good 380bhp motor :)

[DerbyT4]

hmmmmm......

comfy s40 t4 for everyday use and then a beefy 340 drift toy :)

so very tempting, I dare say we'll have to discuss this further at some point.

[Enigma666]

Lol yeah mate no worries :)

[T4FLY]

I have a spare T4 engine if you want to play....not to mention a full stand alone ECU up for grabs...hell I have a GT2871 and manifold for sale too...add it all together with larger injectors etc and you have a good 380bhp motor :)

Out of interest, how much are you selling the manifold for mate?

[Enigma666]

The manifold on it's own or the manifold with the adaptor for T3 turbos?

[T4FLY]

The manifold on its own thanks :)

[Enigma666]

Are you deliberately after a ported manifold or just a replacement to play with as I have a full spare engine with a standard mani on it if that's any interest to you?

[T4FLY]

Are you deliberately after a ported manifold or just a replacement to play with as I have a full spare engine with a standard mani on it if that's any interest to you?

Might be interested in the ported one as I'll be fitting a 14T with 16G compressor wheel (2.0T engine).

[Enigma666]

Ok, if you go down that route then most likely you will need the forged rods too...I have had 2 friends who have bent rods with upgrades to the 2.0T engine.
1 just went 14T with FMIC and MTE tuned and bent a rod, the other was a 14TBig16G wheel and also bent a rod.
Combine that with a ported manifold and you will most likely bend something mate.
By all means give it a go, but it is an expensive repair bill :(

[T4FLY]

Ahh yes I'd be way too nervous about fitting the 14TBig16G without the safeguard of forged rods. I'd probably do the same if it was the T4. I'm taking delivery of Andy_P's engine in a few days so it should be more than up to the job :) Must say I am tempted by a bigger turbo but the 14T will be a good start and then can progress from there if I need to.

You not fancying taking your T4 to the next stage then?

[Enigma666]

Yeah I really did, but then bought a T5 so that will be my silly car, thinking either sell teh 40 or strip her out and send her round the track, approx 200hp per tonne should be fun to take round a track :D

Good luck with the new engine mate :)
I thought Andy had a custom made tubular on his? Or did he keep that?
Either way if you want the manifold you can have it for £50 +p&p. Seem reasonable?

[T4FLY]

Yeah I really did, but then bought a T5 so that will be my silly car, thinking either sell teh 40 or strip her out and send her round the track, approx 200hp per tonne should be fun to take round a track :D

Good luck with the new engine mate :)
I thought Andy had a custom made tubular on his? Or did he keep that?
Either way if you want the manifold you can have it for £50 +p&p. Seem reasonable?


Yes Andy auctioned off some of the stuff inc his tubular manifold and clutch, intercooler etc. Thanks for the info on the manifold, will deffo bear that in mind mate:B_thumb: -Presuming its the same on the 2.0T as on the T4?

[Enigma666]

Yeah same manifold mate,....well certainly the same dimensions at least :D

Depending on how far you want to take the car I also have the same FMIC kit Andy used sitting in my front room lol

[T4FLY]

Will be going for a phase 2 mate, with aircon so that might be tricky in fitting it? Then again the aircon could come out. What mods if any were required to make it fit?

[Enigma666]

Bit of bumper cutting is all....Spangoolies posted a how to, looks straight forward enough....out of interest....is there a reason behind the Hybrid? not want to go any bigger?

[T4FLY]

I had the 14T hybrid done nearly 2 years ago and never fitted it-don't want it to go to waste but I guess further down the line I will be tempted to go bigger :)

[Enigma666]

I assume you are going with MTE for the remap then?
Have you sourced all of the other parts yet? Injectors etc? Or did they come with the engine?

[T4FLY]

I assume you are going with MTE for the remap then?
Have you sourced all of the other parts yet? Injectors etc? Or did they come with the engine?

Yeah MTE to do the remap, sensing a hefty road trip one day lol.

Already have the coilover suspension, droplinks, big brakes, turbo and some other bits and pieces sitting. Not sure about the injectors but theres a whole list of stuff yet to get.

Did you do the work on your S40 yourself?

[Enigma666]

Did the brakes work myself mate, fitted the strut bars etc other than that the car is mostly standard (Except the RICA of course :D)

I only asked about your power wants as I have a GT2871R with matched manifold etc needing to be sold and thought you might make full use of it :D

[T4FLY]

Waiting untill I get my valeting business up an running before I get this project moving now. I've only been planning another S40 for 2 yrs already. :)

Re previous post- I think Andy took the engine straight out with a crane so I think the injectors will be fitted. Will find out soon.

[Enigma666]

No worries mate, all the best with the block :D

[T4FLY]

Hello mate

What parts do you currently have for sale at the mo? May be interested in exhaust and / or intercooler if you have them.

[Enigma666]

Assuming you mean me?
I've sold the T4.....got an intercooler setup for it (Full FMIC) with pipe work etc (some welds are required to make it compatible)....full T4 engine (Ph1 with 70K on it)....potentially the GT2871R with manifold and adaptor plate too...not got an exhaust though :(

[volvoturboman]

Alright mate welcome to the world of Volvos and the site. As fr all the other stuff you speak of, well I spent two years training to be a mechanic (left cause it was to dirty, yes I know wimp. Grew up since then) and all you speak of just went flying right over my head (should have paid attention in those 2 years). I'm sure you'll get all the info you'll ever need on here, I do. So anyway welcome to the site.

[AlanG]

Find all you need here buddy. Just ask.

[T4FLY]

Assuming you mean me?
I've sold the T4.....got an intercooler setup for it (Full FMIC) with pipe work etc (some welds are required to make it compatible)....full T4 engine (Ph1 with 70K on it)....potentially the GT2871R with manifold and adaptor plate too...not got an exhaust though :(

Ok thanks for the reply mate...