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stainesy
Monday 4th August 2008, 19:59
is a volvo 760 turbo fast?
i mean compared to sumit like a 850 or a t5?

Jod T5
Monday 4th August 2008, 20:22
is a volvo 760 turbo fast?
i mean compared to sumit like a 850 or a t5?
LMAO, the 760 turbo is a pussy compared with the t5, however expect to get 120mph cruising speed out of one....
The cars are very different, tho it is well possable that a mbc will quicken it up no end..BTW i have had the pleasure of a trip in Ryans 740 turbo (not et mind) mega-squirted up and it shifts.......big time..James and Ryan are the 7 series "know-it-alls" but i expect you will have to wait for the voc to open or log onto t5d5 for thier input...
If your after tyre shreading moments the 760 will only entertain in the wet, however if you are looking for a solid reliable ride with the potential for playing around with the rwd then this is a good car....
Cheers
jod

stainesy
Monday 4th August 2008, 20:35
LMAO, the 760 turbo is a pussy compared with the t5, however expect to get 120mph cruising speed out of one....
The cars are very different, tho it is well possable that a mbc will quicken it up no end..BTW i have had the pleasure of a trip in Ryans 740 turbo (not et mind) mega-squirted up and it shifts.......big time..James and Ryan are the 7 series "know-it-alls" but i expect you will have to wait for the voc to open or log onto t5d5 for thier input...
If your after tyre shreading moments the 760 will only entertain in the wet, however if you are looking for a solid reliable ride with the potential for playing around with the rwd then this is a good car....
Cheers
jod

rwd? ooow i like the sound of that. reminds me of my old mk2 escort. was great fun LOL.
i no its 2.3 turbo but is it 4 cylinder? and is it twin cam?
also do all volvo wheels fit all volvos?

Jod T5
Monday 4th August 2008, 20:46
rwd? ooow i like the sound of that. reminds me of my old mk2 escort. was great fun LOL.
i no its 2.3 turbo but is it 4 cylinder? and is it twin cam?
4 cyl, single OHC,....IIRC 134bhp and 260NM Torque....
Basically it gets there in the end but has potential
BTW i think i saw engineer floating around earlier, he knows a *little* bout the 7's too.lol....
Cheers
Jod

stainesy
Monday 4th August 2008, 21:15
what are they like for fuel? mpg?

Al115
Monday 4th August 2008, 23:18
760 has 6 cyls, 740 has 4...

Dangerous Dave
Monday 4th August 2008, 23:51
Nearly Al, some of the later 760s had the 4 cylinder engine with the LH2.2 fuel injection and a turbo (wierd I know).

There were some twin cam engines built (engine code B234F, might have been 940s only though), but they seem pretty rare.

MPG is crap, expect around 20 - 25. My old 940 was the lowest engine size 2.0litre, and it only did 25 - 28 MPG. The bigger engines do less than that.

Useless info bit - The V6 engine used in the Volvo 760 was used in the Delorean!

Jod T5
Tuesday 5th August 2008, 16:55
Nearly Al, some of the later 760s had the 4 cylinder engine with the LH2.2 fuel injection and a turbo (wierd I know).


the one the OP will be referring to is the ET, motronic version...., i agree fuel consumption is nothing to write home about, tho i got far closer to 30 mpg on my trip to france last year over 1200 miles so i was not too disappointed...
Cheers
Jod

nobananas
Tuesday 5th August 2008, 19:59
The 760 and 940 turbo's are supposed to be more easily tunable and slightly more bomb proof then the T5's. We didn't get the twin cam versions here as they were only available as a left hooker, something to do with the steering column fouling on the turbo of the twin cam. That's not to say that people haven't done the swap and managed to re-jig things to get it to fit on a right hooker.

Rufe
Wednesday 6th August 2008, 10:48
some basic power figures from the 740 / 760:

B200ET = 163 BHP (2.0 8v Turbo)
B200FT = 155 BHP (2.0 8v Turbo, with catalytic converter)
B230ET = 182 BHP (2.3 8v Turbo)
B230FT = 156 BHP (2.3 8v Turbo, with catalytic converter)
B280E = 170 BHP (V6 12v Non turbo)

Filterlab
Wednesday 6th August 2008, 11:07
Useless info bit - The V6 engine used in the Volvo 760 was used in the Delorean!

Indeed, in fact it was virtually identical to the 2.7 V6 PRV engine used in the old 264, with a virtually unchanged power output. It was the best thing (mechanically speaking) about the DMC 12.

nobananas
Wednesday 6th August 2008, 19:56
Purely out of interest does any body know if the V6 shares the same bellhousing pattern as the T5 ? (doubt it but you never know) and did you know that the same 5 pot (in 2.5 NA guise) also powered some of the old Renault Safranes ?.....hmm, T5 Safrane anyone !!!!

johntheace
Wednesday 13th August 2008, 15:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig34S5obmc0

;)

T-5HAUN
Wednesday 17th September 2008, 16:30
I had a 760 turbo a few years back, i increased the boost on the turbo with a bleed valve (not the greatest mod i know) and it went very well, not totally dissimilar to a T5 actually, certainly fast enough to be interesting. And what a great car, sold mine with 215k on the clock and it was still going strong. The guy who's got it now says it's upto 260k and still as good as new. Shaun

cameron
Wednesday 17th September 2008, 22:46
[QUOTE=Rufe

B230ET = 182 BHP (2.3 8v Turbo)
B230FT = 156 BHP (2.3 8v Turbo, with catalytic converter)

[/QUOTE]

Can anyone tell me why the big drop in power and if i decat my 855 will it increase the power? Also would it still pass the emmissions test at the MOT?

Tomcat
Wednesday 17th September 2008, 23:07
Sorry but all Volvo's before the 850(Facelift) where naff.....(run's and hides behind sofa!!!)....... The early Volvo's had good build quality but they weren't exactly performance cars where they?, the only exception is the wedge, and that only has the looks....

cameron
Wednesday 17th September 2008, 23:07
This 740 looks a beast......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbHEPbS9ZeU&feature=related

Just shows what you could do with these cars, Amazing!

Tomcat
Wednesday 17th September 2008, 23:11
it might be but it's still hideous!!. Sorry but I'm just not a fan of the early cars.

cameron
Wednesday 17th September 2008, 23:15
Id sacrifice the looks for the performance T.C.

Of course id only go out in it at night with a brown bag over my head, LOL.

Im not a fan of the looks either, just shows how far Volvo have come since then.

SyKo
Thursday 2nd October 2008, 23:29
yeah that guy who has that car is nuts, you should see the other video's, something like 500bhp 16v 2.3. its mental, and he is a pretty good drifter aswell. i aspire to have my 940 at that stage this time next year :)

and for the record i have had my 940 at silly speeds 140-150mph (track) and it was as standard, just stripped out interior.

and to answer the power drop with the cat. the cat installed on that is, i believe an 800 cell unit. these are quite restrictive so they generate heat to get up to working temperature quickly. i do believe also you can remove them if your car is before 1992, and if not, probably best to get a performance, which is like 400 cell or 200, but i am not sure what the effects on emissions would be with that. please dont quote me as i hate cats and they aint my area. also correct me if i am wrong and speaking out of my bottom

Matt

t5 pete
Thursday 2nd October 2008, 23:38
I had a 760 turbo 182bhp it was ok but was too over engineered ie vacume side im just on with a 240 turbo i hoping for 250bhp what a wolf in sheeps clothing i cant wait to get it done the 760 turbo was a 4 clyinder engine with 8 valve also the best thing about these are the rwd there more fun

t5 pete
Thursday 2nd October 2008, 23:44
P.S. i hope my 240 will be like that

SyKo
Friday 3rd October 2008, 09:54
take a look at www.ipdusa.com, they have performance mods on there. remember if you want power, you need to get the suspension and brakes up to spec as the standard ones are poor over 200hp - trust me on that one!

I would definitely recommend the sports camshaft they sell, it says its for the b230 engine, the only difference between b230 and b200 is the cylinder diameter tbh, so that cam WILL work in a b200 if you should so have one. If you have the b21 block, i am not so sure, it may use the same 530 head though.

I have the turbo performance cam, with the adjustable cam shaft pulley etc ... i would get the pulley as you will loose *some* torque between 1000 and 2500rpm, but the adjustable gear allows you to put 2.5 degrees advance on it to get it back.

Matt

t5 pete
Friday 3rd October 2008, 18:24
Which volvo do you have

Jimmie
Friday 3rd October 2008, 21:02
Nothing wrong with the 1/2/7 series volvo's,they were built for safety not speed but were tuneable.
I always found them reliable but they are dated now just the same as the 850,a square box on wheels.

t5 pete
Friday 3rd October 2008, 21:15
i take it you have a newer car that these

SyKo
Saturday 4th October 2008, 16:37
i have two. a 1989 740 2.0i and a 1993 940 GLE 2.0i Turbo :) which is very rapid and light aswell as safe

dangerstevie
Thursday 11th December 2008, 21:30
The 740 in that vid is awesome and i would love one! those older 7 and 9 series cars are too cool just underpowered (std) has anyone ever put a T5 lump onto the RWD box?

b230k740
Saturday 13th December 2008, 21:58
I personally prefer the older volvos; more character, I have a 740, my dad has a v50, the v50 is overall crap, personally they are boring, boring to drive in every way and is obviously not as practical as the 740

DuncVolvoTurbo
Saturday 13th December 2008, 22:12
Sorry but all Volvo's before the 850(Facelift) where naff.....(run's and hides behind sofa!!!)....... The early Volvo's had good build quality but they weren't exactly performance cars where they?, the only exception is the wedge, and that only has the looks....

It is quite easy to get huge power out of the 2.3 Turbo engine, the Swedish guys do it all the time. I don't know the total ins & outs of it, but it involves a truck intercooler, and a bus turbo. These and a few other bits, could easily have you at over 500bhp.......from a brick! lol!

All cars before the 850 were naff? Can I draw your attention to the 740 Turbo and the 960 (yes 960) Convertible below!

Tomcat
Saturday 13th December 2008, 22:23
Must admit that I've changed my mind since I made that remark, got a soft spot for the 960 now. Still not over keen on the looks of the 740's but they're growing on me.

DuncVolvoTurbo
Saturday 13th December 2008, 22:31
Must admit that I've changed my mind since I made that remark, got a soft spot for the 960 now. Still not over keen on the looks of the 740's but they're growing on me.

Excellent.........a RWD convert! lol!

Tomcat
Saturday 13th December 2008, 22:33
Hey!, I love RWD!, I used to own old F*rds (ssshhhh, don't tell anyone)...

rogerhechorister
Tuesday 16th December 2008, 14:38
760s come in v6 (B28 - horrid, slow thirsty and unreliable: or B280, only marginally better) or the B230ET turbo. I had a B280 until a friend melted the engine and it was easily the slowest of my 4 rwds and barely made 20 mpg on a run.

The B230ET turbo is damn good for its age - 182 bhp and a lot more with the big valve head, wild cam, MBC and wideband AFR - even with Motronic. I think some later ones were LH 2.2 or even 2.4 - lots more chippable - but I think Fred's chips will do piggybacks for Motronics too.

B234F is a very spunky 156 bhp. Put it this way, my B200FT is about 8mph quicker at the top end than my B280 was, my B230ET about another 5 quicker than that, and the B234 just goes on gathering way seemingly for ever (at least another 10). I have very nearly doubled the national in it - and it's standard so far.

A B234F+T with John V's pistons and rods in (and grooves in the pistons for the valves), the earlier turbo off the B230ET, standard 7 or 9 series intercooler, and a little bit of turning up ought to deliver 250 at the flywheel easily and reliably. Be careful to route the downpipe round the steering column and support the manifold strongly. Balance shafts and oilfeeds are other issues too. A 2.5 penta and penta cams with a bigger modern turbo and intercooler, chips and injectors can make VERY big power. I have heard of Swedes with 800 to 1,000 bhp (but I don't know how long for).

The M46 and M47 boxes are marginal at 250, but the M90 fine up to about 300 - maybe 500 for a while. Beware, M90 bellhousings are integral and you need the propshaft too. M90 demands diesel clutch to go onto B234 (splines).

Late Jumbo brakes ought to be OK (just). Littles iffy - and I seem to warp Bigs frequently (on 4th set so far). Oh, there are ABS complications on brakes too.

I'm still on a learning curve on diffs but there are the early 1030s (too weak) later 1031s and 1041s from 9 series - two different types of LSD - a 70/30torque biasser and a G80 locker, and ratios from anout 4.11 to 3.31 - and teh ones from the IRS 9s as well.

Wheels come at least 3 diameters (14, 15, and 16) two rimwidths and 3 offsets (20, 22, and 43 mm). Millions of styles. Virgos often foul later brakes, and Polaris or Eiker are up to about £1800 per set of 4!!

The Nivomat self-levelling shocks are very expensive but wonderful and come in two heights. Apart from that lowering is hacksaw easy. IPD make antirollbars and it is also possible to pair up two sets of front and rears carefully selected from 9 series (seeral differnt thicknesses at both ends, many 7s have no rear arb at all)

The 5 cylinder engines (and their turbos) will go onto an M90 from a 6 cylinder whiteblock (bolt-on) - but the dizzy then fouls the bulkhead.

No later Volvo looks anywhere near as good as a 7 or 9 estate!

Murphy
Tuesday 16th December 2008, 15:47
You cannot remove a cat if it has one fitted, although it is not an MOT failure [pre-'93] it is illegal.

RobbieH
Saturday 3rd January 2009, 15:42
Had a 940 SE estate with the B200FT engine in 155bhp guise. If I was pushed I'd say it was the best car I ever had and wished in some ways I'd kept it. Motorways runs were capable of 28-30mpg if the right foot was used sparingly to get much above 80-85. I think round town commuting runs averaged out at 25mpg. Top end - not sure took mine up to 100 ish on a run back on the A50 from Derby late one night but that was as far as I was willing to go. Could hustle off the line faily quick for such a big car.

The real enjoyment came on runs from Manchester to Newark to see my parents via Sparrowpit, Baslow Bank, Chesaterfield and Mansfield. Used to scare the bejezus out of nerks in their little Novas, Escorts, etc with "custom add ons". Set the old bus up properly, plus knowing the roads from cycling the same route pre car owning days, and I could have some real fun as the old girl picked up her skirts and ran with the boys. Tonne and a half of metallic blue metal bearing down on them gave an interesting reaction in ther rear view mirrors :eye-poppi.

Still look back at pictures and think "what if"...... I'd kept it and bunged a decent engine in or modded what I'd got. Probably 12 points, no license and an empy wallet :lol:.

t5 stealth
Saturday 3rd January 2009, 16:28
the 760 was a 2.8 v6 & it was a gutless over rated alluminium renault engine as fitted to the ren25.awful engine,overheated & head problems with overheating.....rather have the 740 or the 940 or better still is the 960 with the 3.0 straight 6.all of these are crap on fuel tho lol,but they all have to carry a lot of weight around with them lol
unfortunatly renault fitted a couple of there engines into volvos....340,440,480

v70torslanda
Sunday 4th January 2009, 00:51
The real enjoyment came on runs from Manchester to Newark to see my parents via Sparrowpit, Baslow Bank, Chesterfield and Mansfield. . .

Still look back at pictures and think "what if"...... I'd kept it and bunged a decent engine in or modded what I'd got. Probably 12 points, no license and an empy wallet :lol:.

Remember doing that in reverse one summer evening nearly 20 years ago. Had a Mazda RX7 that we'd tuned the nuts off, porting, Janspeed zorst, the lot. Out of Baslow and up past Lover's Leap with the roof off and the music blaring, picked up a tail - turned out to be a 24v Senator. Past Eyam and across Tideswell Moor at Stupid-and-a-half mph. Topped out at 130+. As we came down thru the hairpins just before Peak Forest he put the blue lights on. I thought my licence was gone for ever but he didn't even give me a ticket, just a fearsome bollocking.

I bet that wouldn't happen today. . .

rogerhechorister
Sunday 11th January 2009, 17:29
The 24V senators would do over 155 in standard trim.

v70torslanda
Sunday 11th January 2009, 23:37
The 24V senators would do over 155 in standard trim.


The RX was standard gearing. It ran out of speedo at 130mph. On one motorway the needle went past the end of the scale and started to climb back up for its second revolution!