i no whats rong with my car

[stainesy]

ok peeps just had a my mates dad come look at my car who is i top bmw mechanic.
my clutch plates are slipping so he said its best to get an autobox overhaule.
is it posible to get just the clutch plates done without a complete overhaule?
does anybody no rufly how much im lookin at paying to get this fixed?

[LesRED850R]

Your not still selling it then ? Keep it I say ....great fun !!

[stainesy]

Your not still selling it then ? Keep it I say ....great fun !!

no not selling it now. wont get much for it with gearbox like this.
has decided that after giving it
new radiator
thermostat
dump valve
and now gearbox a may as well keep it as at least i no it has all new stuf so should last a wile.

just gota get the geasrbox sorted first.
not sure weather the get gearbox fixed or buy one.
if i buy one i dont no what condition its in but if i get mine fixed at least i no its ok.
its just the cost tho.
havnt got a clue how much its gona cost and i had better start saving coz im skint

[MIKESC70T5]

Did you sort your cv problem out?

[Okete]

Where's the 'Spelling Police' when you need them!!

I honestly didn't realise that automatics had clutch plates! I thought it was all done with hydraulics, torque converters and fluid couplings - that's why I can't be much help to you I'm afraid!

Still, best of luck though!

Cheers,
John.

[stainesy]

i havnt got a clue how an auto box works but aparently the plates that transfer the power from the engine to the gearbox are slipping under power.
the car drives fine if i drive normaly but give it any power and brrrrrr it slips witch is soooooo anoying when you have boyracers fly past you and you cant blow them away LOL.

and yes MIKESC70T5 all my cv joints are sorted now.

[5seaterT5x2]

ok peeps just had a my mates dad come look at my car who is i top bmw mechanic.
my clutch plates are slipping so he said its best to get an autobox overhaule.
is it posible to get just the clutch plates done without a complete overhaule?
does anybody no rufly how much im lookin at paying to get this fixed?

Sorry to hear that bad news is my auto box went 6/7 months ago and it was more than i paid for car to get it fixed.Place in Hammersmith i used in the end but mine was TOTALLY shot bloke reckoned he'd never seen one so bad it seems to be quite a specialist jobby.Guess it depends how bad yours is gone but you could be looking at over a grand for a rebuild.See if you can locate a good second hand box? Maybe even buy a crashed write of auto and use the box etc? i seriously considered converting to manual,seems it can be done if you can get the bits.Personally i would never buy another t5/t5-r etc auto.

[stainesy]

yeah i no what you mean i have had so many problems with this car. just been thinking and if im offered a good price i may sell it as it is.
how much is my car worth the way it is?
also mine is a t5r so do i need a t5r gearbox or is the t5r and the t5 the same autobox?

[freaky fingers]

Is this the t5r that nads sold?

[stainesy]

Is this the t5r that nads sold?

yep this is the car that nads sold.
why?

[freaky fingers]

No reason chap,

just thought if you mention to him the gearbox has issues he might be able to get you a replacement one? possibly with a little regular customer discount?

[stainesy]

No reason chap,

just thought if you mention to him the gearbox has issues he might be able to get you a replacement one? possibly with a little regular customer discount?
yeah could do. will pm him now. last time a pm him i had no reply tho.

[freaky fingers]

I know when it comes to computers you've got more chance of gok wan being straight than nads using them.

He was never a good user of the p.c.

try his mobile, if you havn't got it then try nads he is a buddy of nads

[stainesy]

I know when it comes to computers you've got more chance of gok wan being straight than nads using them.

He was never a good user of the p.c.

try his mobile, if you havn't got it then try nads he is a buddy of nads

nads is a buddy iof nads? errr?
iv just pm,d nads on here. is that nads i bought the car off or a diferant nads?
is there 2 nads?

[freaky fingers]

on the 10-7-08 nads number was 07737700648

chad (sorry for the typo) is a mate of nads

might be worth a call?

[stainesy]

ok thanks mate.

what is the average price for an auto gearbox?

[Tomcat]

Glad to see your keeping it, but sorry to hear that the gearbox is fubard, hope you get it sorted cheaply.

Oh, I bought my T5R off Nads too...

[stainesy]

Oh, I bought my T5R off Nads too...

yeah? how many parts have you had to fix so far then? LOL

if i keep it all depends on how much its gona cost me to get it sorted.
if i get offered the right price then its gone to be honest

[mexybhouy]

get it converted to manual then! plenty spares out there and it's different! thought auto boxes had clutch bands, maybe that's where the confusion about clutches come from????????

[stainesy]

yeah thats whats slipping on mine the clutch pads i think. maybe able to just get them changed. hopefuly.
the car drives fine its just under power it slipps

[Okete]

Clutch pads, clutch plates, clutch bands...................

'tell you what, I'm glad mine's a manual, at least it's only got one clutch '!

[Porcine_Aviator]

Sort of off topic but about Auto boxes. A mate of mine told me about this bloke who's specialised in auto boxes. My mate said his favorite number was a grand plus vat, who ever came through the door with an auto box that was his price. So off I went thinking he was joking and I could get a better deal.

I walk in and told him what was wrong and sure enough "It's a grand plus vat". As things seem to move at the pace of a snail in first gear with him, he's the only company that does them around here, by the time I got the vehicle back the steering was shot and the silencer sounded like a low flying plane, it was a V8 5ltr. So it went to a good home and I was out of pocket. But in a way I'm glad it's gone, 3 mpg around town and 20mpg on the motorway at 70 was a bit much.

But it looks like "It's a grand plus vat" price hasn't gone up to much.

[CONDYBOY]

Auto boxes are a pita to work on! I can't see it being cheap! convert to manual would be best imo.

[siamblue]

How long you had the car? Was there any warranty with it?

[Alan M]

Convert to manual and use a M66 box, 6 speed. They are coming up thick and fast at the minute as loads of Focus ST's are getting crashed by the chav brigade.

[5seaterT5x2]

Yes i would seriously consider converting to manual tis just my opinion and a nasty experience bout 6/7 months ago followed by a NASTY NASTY bill,but i think the auto box is crap and just not up to the job.I would never buy another auto.I currently have an intermitent fault with the P N P switch so thats next to be done.

[stainesy]

yeah but how much am i looking at paying to get it converted to manual?

[MrMopp]

yeah but how much am i looking at paying to get it converted to manual?

probably cheaper than your autobox repair :)

[Niles]

used auto box 90-250 depending on miles etc. recon auto box 1100-1300. I have a similar problem & my box needs changing. Switching to manual is a rare old pita!!! not just the box, drive shafts, brake cylinder, wiring, pedals, pedal box, clutch cable....blah blah blah. Want a manual? go buy a manual. less hassle.

[chow]

[QUOTE=stainesy;169883]yeah but how much am i looking at paying to get it converted to manual?[/QUOTE
]

If you still believe in father christmas this may be a cheaper option http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Automatic-Gearbox-Gearbox-Repair-Stops-Slipping_W0QQitemZ230187886892QQihZ013QQcategoryZ2 8641QQcmdZViewItem

[stainesy]

yeah but does it realy work?
and if so how long for?
its not going to completely fix the problem is it.
and i dout this was designed for high power cars like the T5-R.
what do you guys recon?

[chow]

yeah but does it realy work?
and if so how long for?
its not going to completely fix the problem is it.
and i dout this was designed for high power cars like the T5-R.
what do you guys recon?

The words father and christmas contain the clue, subtle i know ,but there you go ...

[siamblue]

Hi Stainsey do a search mate, Lots of auto boxes ahev gone on these cars, Its your money and your choice, but you are looking at £1000-£1500 for indie servicing,
To a manual only handful of people have done this and again it will probably cost you £1000,

Gary

[stainesy]

i dont have have £1000. i dont even have £300. sod it. its time to sell.
amybody no what its worth the way it is?
1995 850 T5-R
milage 142678
mot 11 nov 2008
tax 31/10/08
brand new radiator
bailey dump valve and forge blanking plate
2 new cv joints
new thermostat.
everything in perfect working order.
drives fine but clutch plates slip under big power.

whats it worth as it is?
what price should i be asking?
i no most of you will say dont sell but i have my 4th child on the way in 3 months and cant aford it anymore. i have to do it as dont have the money.
need money for a 7 peole carryer and insurance.

so whats it worth?

[chow]

i dont have have £1000. i dont even have £300. sod it. its time to sell.
amybody no what its worth the way it is?
1995 850 T5-R
milage 142678
mot 11 nov 2008
tax 31/10/08
brand new radiator
bailey dump valve and forge blanking plate
2 new cv joints
new thermostat.
everything in perfect working order.
drives fine but clutch plates slip under big power.

whats it worth as it is?
what price should i be asking?
i no most of you will say dont sell but i have my 4th child on the way in 3 months and cant aford it anymore. i have to do it as dont have the money.
need money for a 7 peole carryer and insurance.

so whats it worth?

Your doing the right thing i reckon, cars like these are not a good idea if your in the financial postion your in with five kids, there money pits, especially if you have to pay someone to turn the spanners, whats it worth? ,very little im afraid, it is to most people a clapped out old banger, might be better breaking it for spares

[Okete]

Chow is often right, on this occasion however I fear he is......right again!

[stainesy]

so are we talking £1000 or £500?
surely if gearbox was fine its worth £2500 so surley i would get £1500 for it as is?

[chow]

face facts, were in the middle of a severe credit crunch , petrol is getting on six quid a gallon and your trying to shift a thirteen year old car that does around 20mpg, has been modded and its got a shagged gearbox,... if someone offered you 500 quid id snatch his hand off tbh

[stainesy]

your fooooooooooking joking. think its time it got stolen and set on fire.

[Wombatbomb]

Sad fact is it's probably worth more as parts than as a complete car. Especially if the Pegs are genuine.

[Okete]

your fooooooooooking joking. think its time it got stolen and set on fire.


Oh Stainsy......... if you are going to do an insurance job..............not very wise to tell the www all about it!!

[stainesy]

pegs??????????

[Okete]

Your alloys - pegasus.

[stainesy]

Oh Stainsy......... if you are going to do an insurance job..............not very wise to tell the www all about it!!
LOL i aint gona do an insurance job. for a start it has dead lock so would be bloody hard to steal.
well fact is im gona use it for work and drive carefully and have to save to get a grand and if i get a good offer in the mean time then i will sell or swap for a 7 seater. simple as that.
nothing els i can do.
then as soon as its fixed sell and buy a decent 7 seater.

[stainesy]

Your alloys - pegasus.

i thought they was titans

[Okete]

No, I thing Titans have got 6 or 7 spokes.

[PNuT]

they dont look like pegs

[Mrsmopp]

No, I thing Titans have got 6 or 7 spokes.

Your thinking of volans, Stainsey's wheels are Titans :)

x

[Okete]

Your thinking of volans, Stainsey's wheels are Titans :)

x


Thanks Moppy - I'm so readily confused!!

[PNuT]

Thanks Moppy - I'm so readily confused!!

the wheels on the 400 bhp t5 are pegs.... they have no visable rim! T5R wheels do!!

[5seaterT5x2]

Just a few thoughts,if it's true and the clutch thingys are slipping would'nt the auto fluid be smelling burnt n brown un all sorts nasty lookin bits floating about in it? you have checked the state of the fluid on the dipstick? and are you certain it's the correct fluid?? ie:- DEXRON 3?? thats the recomended grade/type for my 95 t5 auto anyway.do you know when the auto fluid was changed last? according to the bods who sorted mine these auto boxes should be serviced every 35000 miles.
anyway was just a few thoughts hope some of it might help.

[stainesy]

the fluid level is fine. the fluid dont smell burnt at all and its the fluid that came with the car. looks like the bloke must have done an oil change before i bought the car.
auto box was fine for the first couple of months so dout it would be the fluid.
have been offered a £750 car with 12 months motin good condition 97000 miles on the clock and £500 for my car and am considering doing the deal.

just took my car for a spin and i can still drive it hard and still love driving it but its still slipping under big power.
iv gota think hard now. everytime i get in my car i love it and dont want to loose it but at the same time i cant aford the fuel and to get it fixed. i would be better off moneywise if i had a deisel motor that i no aint gona cost me a fortune.
so my dilema is do i swap my pride and joy for a £750 deisel with 12 months mot in great condition plus £500 pounds and save myself loads in fuel and repair.
or do i keep it, save up for months to get it fixed and be skint most of the time coz of fuel but at the same time love driving it?

iv gota take into consideration i have 3 kids and one on the way.

what to do, what to do. this is such a hard decision.

[5seaterT5x2]

the answer to the rip of petrol had mine done last year,bloody marvellous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! under 60p a litre
Diesel at £1.30 plus?????? no ta.

the previous owner did an oil change before you got it?
i guess he put the right stuff in?
dont know what the wrong stuff would do but the guys who done mine seemed very keen to put in the dexron 3 but i am far from expert,sorry cant be more help.Good luck what ever you do.
Dont suppose you are anywhere near west london? the blokes who done mine were very good might be an idea to run it in to a SPECIALIST and get a 2nd opinion?????

[volvokid]

Stainesy sounds like you need to pull your finger out and do some O/T at work :rolleyes: And if you ask for my opinion your considering buying a £750 and you say its in great condition :insane: the odds are it will need work done to it just like almost any cheep car i.e. yours.

[Okete]

Hi Stainesy,

I think the answer must be becoming fairly clear now:

You are unable to diagnose and fix the car yourself.
You cannot afford to pay someone else to do it for you.
You have had various suggestions as to what needs doing but you can't afford to do them.
You have a faulty car that is, in its current condition, worth very little today.
You need transport for a growing family.
You have been offered a vehicle swap that will suit your needs and a generous cash bonus.
You couldn't afford to run the T5 even if it was fixed for free.
You couldn't afford an LPG conversion if it was offered at half the price.

It's no contest..........................

Grab the diesel, grab the £500 and consider it your lucky day!!!!!!!!!!!

Now, what was your question?!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers,
John.

[stephenevans99]

May we ask what the £750 diesel is? And is it a 7 seater as required?

[stainesy]

okete i no you are right mate its about time i stoped my fast car obsession and faced the fact i cant aford one anymore.
oh and volvokid if overtime was posible then i would do it. if you have been reading the thread from the start you would have realised that my working hours have been cut from 6 days a week to now only 3 days a week coz of change at work hence im foooked.

[volvokid]

What do you do for a living i'd love a 3 day working week lol? I have been reading this thread from the beginning and I’m still waiting to read the part about your work hours.

[stainesy]

May we ask what the £750 diesel is? And is it a 7 seater as required?
nope its not a 7 seater as requied but nither is my volvo.
was ment to get 7 seat convertion for T5-R but everything els needed replacing so skinted me.
am thinking that the money i save on fuel a week can be but in savings for a 7 seater in a years time. get a years no claims bonus and save up for maybe a nice gold V70 R or sumit.
gota look on the bright side aint ya.

[Okete]

Yeah, just take the sensible option until things pick up for you!

you don't need to give up being interested in performance cars, just need to cut your cloth accordingly and wait until the good times come back round again.

Good luck!!

[stainesy]

What do you do for a living i'd love a 3 day working week lol? I have been reading this thread from the beginning and I’m still waiting to read the part about your work hours.

im a postaman and my depo has been chosen to be the ginnipig in a new system so now my hors have been cut from 6 days a week to 3 days a week.
have a job interview tuesday for a better full time job. but i still have to pay £185 pm for the loan i got to buy the T5-R.
anyways £££££ happens. thanks for all your advice everybody.

[stainesy]

Yeah, just take the sensible option until things pick up for you!

you don't need to give up being interested in performance cars, just need to cut your cloth accordingly and wait until the good times come back round again.

Good luck!!

cheers buddy

[freaky fingers]

Stainsey

May I suggest something?

On motorbikes most of them use semi synthetic oil. If they use fully synthetic it causes clutch slip as fully synth is not meant for the majority of bikes.

Before you chuck the yella why not try a cheap test. Drop the existing oil out, then run a gearbox flusher through then make sure that you re-fill it with the correct stuff, to be sure get it from the local volvo dealer then there can be no doubts.

If it is the wrong oil in the box then there is a chance that the slipping is due to the wrong oil. and if it is the cause then hopefully all things should be put right

[volvokid]

That’s not so good. As you said after the yellow bird goes you might manage to save and get a younger model I have a V70R and haven’t had anything big wrong with it touch wood apart from general maintenance, but I don’t drive my car that much I have only done 75 miles in the last 6 months with it lol. I don’t think I would have another one due to the fact there getting old and the general condition of most of them are starting to deteriorate and finding a good one that doesn’t need much spent on it will be hard to find (until my car goes on the market of course lol).

[5seaterT5x2]

Stainsey

May I suggest something?

On motorbikes most of them use semi synthetic oil. If they use fully synthetic it causes clutch slip as fully synth is not meant for the majority of bikes.

Before you chuck the yella why not try a cheap test. Drop the existing oil out, then run a gearbox flusher through then make sure that you re-fill it with the correct stuff, to be sure get it from the local volvo dealer then there can be no doubts.

If it is the wrong oil in the box then there is a chance that the slipping is due to the wrong oil. and if it is the cause then all things will remain as they should be


i second that, tis well worth a try!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[5seaterT5x2]

i second that, tis well worth a try!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



i used these guys last year my box died after 3 weeks ;-/ it was a frightening bill.but they came very well recomended.
hope it's some help.

http://www.automaticman.co.uk/

[stainesy]

i just thought of something. a few weeks before the gearbox started slipping i had a new radiator fitted at a garage. would i have lost gearbox oil when they tok the old one off as it has oil cooler in the radiator?
if so they may have topped it back up with the rong oil.
is that a posibility?

[freaky fingers]

Stainsey

stop faffing

change the oil

[siamblue]

i just thought of something. a few weeks before the gearbox started slipping i had a new radiator fitted at a garage. would i have lost gearbox oil when they tok the old one off as it has oil cooler in the radiator?
if so they may have topped it back up with the rong oil.
is that a posibility?

I doubt it you would have lost hardly anything, plus the whole system holds 9 litres IIRC,
Not slating you here, But are you sure you checked the level hot or cold at the right increment on the dipstick?
I would double check the level, and stop booting the car then you can keep her :) until you can afford another box, As i am sure a good secondhand low mileage one will pop up on here or other places,

Gary.

Get a dex III from any car shop, about £8 a gallon,

[stainesy]

yes have checked the oil level corectly. oil seems fine and no burnt smell. just seemed funny that radiator with autobox oil cooler was changed a week before autobox started slipping.

[Tomcat]

There's no sign of any crap in the gearoil is there?, or likewise in the the engine oil?. When the rads go you usually end up with cream in the oil due to water getting into it, not sure if it can get into the gearbox. For the price of it I'd defo change the gearbox oil first.

[stainesy]

yeah have decided to change the gearbox oil when i get the money and chance to do it. and see if its the same.
if it fixes the problem then will be selling the car.
if not then im going to take up the person on the offer for the car and cash.

[5seaterT5x2]

yeah have decided to change the gearbox oil when i get the money and chance to do it. and see if its the same.
if it fixes the problem then will be selling the car.
if not then im going to take up the person on the offer for the car and cash.

Make sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you get the right oil as i've said before mines DEXRON 3 so likely yours is as well.Make sure you do it right and get allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the old oil out.

[5seaterT5x2]

Make sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you get the right oil as i've said before mines DEXRON 3 so likely yours is as well.Make sure you do it right and get allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the old oil out.


Just found this dunno if it will help.

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=27998

[stainesy]

i no you lot are fed up with me chatin about this but i have one more question that may be relavent.

as iv said there may be a posibility that it has the rong oil in the gearbox.
i have noticed the car seems to slip alot more after it has been driven a long way on a motorway.
could this be as the oil in the autobox is hot and isnt working proply as its the rong oil?
does that point more towards the rong oil theiry that the car slips more when gearbox oil is hotter?
am going to change oil saturday but wanted to no if that sound more like the rong oil theiry.
as dont want to wast alot of money on oil if i dont have to

[y2blade]

good luck with sorting it mate :( sorry i cant add any help other than the things that have already been suggested

[freaky fingers]

Fully synthetic oil will cause clutch slip under hard acceleration. as the oil gets hot it gets thinnner so is even less suitable.

What this shows if the oil is the wrong type then problems will occur

I am so looking forward to Sunday and a praise the lord momment

[Okete]

Don't hold your breath!