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oilman
Monday 5th June 2006, 15:22
If you are "modding" your car and adding BHP or using it on track then consider your oil choice carefully as the stock manufacturers recommended oil will not give you the protection that your engine requires.

A standard oil will not be thermally stable enough to cope with higher temperatures without "shearing" meaning that the oil will not give the same protection after a couple of thousand miles as it it when it was new.

Let’s start with the fundamentals. An engine is a device for converting fuel into motive power. Car enthusiasts get so deep into the details they lose sight of this!

To get more power, an engine must be modified such that it converts more fuel per minute into power than it did in standard form. To produce 6.6 million foot-pounds per minute of power (ie 200 BHP) a modern engine will burn about 0.5 litres of fuel per minute.(Equivalent to 18mpg at 120mph). So, to increase this output to 300BHP or 9.9 million foot-pounds per minute it must be modified to burn (in theory) 0.75 litres.
However, fuel efficiency often goes out of the window when power is the only consideration, so the true fuel burn will be rather more than 0.75 litres/min.

That’s the fundamental point, here’s the fundamental problem:

Less than 30% of the fuel (assuming it’s petrol) is converted to all those foot-pounds. The rest is thrown away as waste heat. True, most of it goes down the exhaust, but over 10% has to be eliminated from the engine internals, and the first line of defence is the oil.

More power means a bigger heat elimination problem. Every component runs hotter; For instance, piston crowns and rings will be running at 280-300C instead of a more normal 240-260C, so it is essential that the oil films on cylinder walls provide an efficient heat path to the block casting, and finally to the coolant.

Any breakdown or carbonisation of the oil will restrict the heat transfer area, leading to serious overheating.

A modern synthetic lubricant based on true temperature-resistant synthetics is essential for long-term reliability. At 250C+, a mineral or hydrocracked mineral oil, particularly a 5W/X or 10W/X grade, is surprisingly volatile, and an oil film around this temperature will be severely depleted by evaporation loss.

Back in the 1970s the solution was to use a thick oil, typically 20W/50; in the late 1980s even 10W/60 grades were used. But in modern very high RPM engines with efficient high-delivery oil pumps thick oils waste power, and impede heat transfer in some situations.

A light viscosity good synthetic formulated for severe competition use is the logical and intelligent choice for the 21st century.

Cheers
Simon

Wobbly Dave
Monday 5th June 2006, 15:57
What about fast road use and occasion track day (once or twice a year). Will the 10W/40 that most of us use be sufficient. Our forum advice in general is to change every 5K miles and use good quality fully sympathetic.

oilman
Monday 5th June 2006, 16:03
Personally I would not use a semi-synthetic on track I would always use a fully synthetic and preferably a race one.

Cheers
Simon

pault5
Monday 5th June 2006, 16:22
Personally I would not use a semi-synthetic on track I would always use a fully synthetic and preferably a race one.

Cheers
Simon



intersting read as usual.
15/50 mobil 1 is ok?

oilman
Monday 5th June 2006, 16:24
Unless oil temps are excessive it may be a bit heavy, a proper synthetic 5w-40 would be more suited

Cheers
Simon

BlackBeast
Monday 5th June 2006, 18:43
a proper synthetic 5w-40 would be more suited

Cheers
Simon

Which is just what i use :viking:

SaffronC70
Monday 5th June 2006, 19:40
Redline fully synthetic 10W40 :)

Engineer
Monday 5th June 2006, 19:56
Redline fully synthetic 10W40 :)

Anybody who pays that much for real FS must be mad lol. :wink:

SaffronC70
Monday 5th June 2006, 20:07
Anybody who pays that much for real FS must be mad lol. :wink:

:troutslap

Chris

Engineer
Monday 5th June 2006, 20:21
:troutslap

Chris

:beer:

arbee
Monday 5th June 2006, 21:05
interesting stuff, i supose the real crux is where the line is drawm between everyday/fast road/track - the requirements may be quite different.

JO5EPH
Monday 5th June 2006, 21:20
I've also heard that changing your oil soon after a track day is important, how soon would you recommend?

Joe :)

oilman
Thursday 8th June 2006, 12:34
It depends what oil you are using, certain specifically designed race oils will do 10 track hours without a problem.

The change frequently applies to semis and hydrocracked fullys

Cheers
Simon